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Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol

a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:23 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.

A-not the same thing

B-not relevant to Mac’s cop check claims

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:27 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.

outed wolf, not me

I've claimed nothing about my role

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:27 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:15 pm i feel good calling the following people town: bronana, carot, lissa, moth, nanook, nutella

i feel cayvie had a super strong start but just disappeared for me enough to want to put her in my poe again

i feel my poe is: macdougall, long con, motobot, outed wolf, cayvie

i've had glimpses of town from both cayvie and OW i think, but not enough to move them into my trusted pile. macdougall could very well be the third cop town has, but i'm still feeling uneasy about the sloonei check and marcher eod shit and how he claimed, and then the whole strongarm thing and getting a result with wilgy's name literally in a game with redirects. too many ????? for me.

seems good to me

motobot have a history of bussing to this extent?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:28 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
A-not the same thing

B-not relevant to Mac’s cop check claims

of course it's not the same thing, but have you ever played a game with TWO traditional alignment cops? cos i sure as fuck haven't lol. having two variations of cops makes more sense to me. role cop + alignment cop.

b - it is relevant if he's lying about being a cop...

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:30 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
A-not the same thing

B-not relevant to Mac’s cop check claims
of course it's not the same thing, but have you ever played a game with TWO traditional alignment cops? cos i sure as fuck haven't lol. having two variations of cops makes more sense to me. role cop + alignment cop.

b - it is relevant if he's lying about being a cop...

A - I don’t think it’s unreasonable in this specific game with the glory mechanic (also I think moth is scummy)

B - it isn’t? The redirectors are irrelevant to his claimed checks, they say nothing about his claim imo

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm**

Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:32 pm**

a- hmmm fair enough. but i think mac is scummier. i would go on a whim and say he could be the godfather, who thinks claiming the second alignment cop takes him to end game if he townchecks some people and busses a couple of people. that's where my head is at.

b- it's the fact his role pm came back "drwilgy is scum". in a game with redirectors, that defeats the purpose of having them in the game, no? so if he was redirected, it would come back as "nanook is town"? i....do not believe that.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm**

Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets

Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into

huh, it looks like nobody has ever ended a day with a vote on either nanook or outed wolf?

so there goes the theory about moth giving one of his teammates a rolecheck on one of them for wilgy to fake

ah well it was a cool idea

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:36 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets

because uniformity. if he gets back a redirected result, will it just say "your target is green"?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
because uniformity. if he gets back a redirected result, will it just say "your target is green"?

I don’t think it’s meaningful

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets

dunya is just arguing that in a game with redirects you wouldn't get a name back as part of your result regardless. hence she thinks mac could be lying about that

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into
huh, it looks like nobody has ever ended a day with a vote on either nanook or outed wolf?

so there goes the theory about moth giving one of his teammates a rolecheck on one of them for wilgy to fake

ah well it was a cool idea

Or he’s lying about how his role works

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into
huh, it looks like nobody has ever ended a day with a vote on either nanook or outed wolf?

so there goes the theory about moth giving one of his teammates a rolecheck on one of them for wilgy to fake

ah well it was a cool idea
Or he’s lying about how his role works

Could be

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:38 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
dunya is just arguing that in a game with redirects you wouldn't get a name back as part of your result regardless. hence she thinks mac could be lying about that

Yeh I got it eventually lol

I just disagree it’s meaningful

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm**

Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:32 pm in a game with redirectors, that defeats the purpose of having them in the game, no?

there have been like, 3 different variations of town doctor, a watcher, a tracker, nutella's role, wilgy's role

those all seem well worth redirecting? regardless of whether or not it specifies the target's name

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:40 pm**

I want to hear more from carot

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:41 pm**

Yes!!!!!!! The whole game I was right! DrWilgy was bad!

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:42 pm**

Hmmm...now who should I pick next?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:46 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol

if he's a wolf, I think the play was to redcheck wilgy for cred (was gonna die anyway), then claim a red on a villager currently outside of the POE to mislim

I know people have said the sloonei kill makes sense, but I thought it was weird man. My gut reaction to it was that it was set up deliberately to give mac's claim cred and avoid dealing with "why did x die but not y," because why would you ever kill the peek over TWO claimed cops there? I also still think Mac was pretty wolfy prior to d4, and he's barely posted at all outside of his claim and saying his checks. I'm still ??? on carot. I hate this shit lol

Sloonei was also possibly THE most prominent pusher of outed wolf, btw.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:47 pm**

motobot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:42 pm Hmmm...now who should I pick next?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:49 pm**

Naw mac is locked town rn

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:49 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol
if he's a wolf, I think the play was to redcheck wilgy for cred (was gonna die anyway), then claim a red on a villager currently outside of the POE to mislim

I know people have said the sloonei kill makes sense, but I thought it was weird man. My gut reaction to it was that it was set up deliberately to give mac's claim cred and avoid dealing with "why did x die but not y," because why would you ever kill the peek over TWO claimed cops there? I also still think Mac was pretty wolfy prior to d4, and he's barely posted at all outside of his claim and saying his checks. I'm still ??? on carot. I hate this shit lol

Sloonei was also possibly THE most prominent pusher of outed wolf, btw.

yeah this all makes sense tbh

I hate cop shit

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:50 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol
if he's a wolf, I think the play was to redcheck wilgy for cred (was gonna die anyway), then claim a red on a villager currently outside of the POE to mislim

I know people have said the sloonei kill makes sense, but I thought it was weird man. My gut reaction to it was that it was set up deliberately to give mac's claim cred and avoid dealing with "why did x die but not y," because why would you ever kill the peek over TWO claimed cops there? I also still think Mac was pretty wolfy prior to d4, and he's barely posted at all outside of his claim and saying his checks. I'm still ??? on carot. I hate this shit lol

Sloonei was also possibly THE most prominent pusher of outed wolf, btw.

wow yes, yes to all of this. how can nutella be scumreading this beauty?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:53 pm**

i know one of mac and carot is definitely town because of marcher's role:

"You are a meddlesome one. You will learn your target’s stats and inventory each Night. In addition, your target will be shown to be guilty if alignment checked that same Night."

i lean carot.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm**

Guys c’mon we just did this, night is not the time to speculate on who is and isn’t real

Right now Mac and carot are both locked town and no other opinion is worth airing until the day starts

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm**

sorry, i might die, so i do all my speculating at night.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm**

I see very few worlds you’re the NK in

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm**

i got anointed btw but it barely did shit to me so i still think LC is lying about having all those sols and inventory.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm I see very few worlds you’re the NK in

rude...

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:58 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm I see very few worlds you’re the NK in
rude...

Sorry

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:58 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Guys c’mon we just did this, night is not the time to speculate on who is and isn’t real

Right now Mac and carot are both locked town and no other opinion is worth airing until the day starts

...didnt you start this lol

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm**

I've been fine on glory and sols tbh

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm**

Like obv I lost some when Sloonei died but still had enough money to buy back up

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm I've been fine on glory and sols tbh

you had 15 sols to spare on stealing someone's power plus other cool trinkets?

doesn't everyone just get +1-+2-+3 every phase?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:01 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm I've been fine on glory and sols tbh
you had 15 sols to spare on stealing someone's power plus other cool trinkets?

doesn't everyone just get +1-+2-+3 every phase?

I never did that? what

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:01 pm**

But like yeah my trium was all alive until last night so I racked up a decent amount

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:01 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:01 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm I've been fine on glory and sols tbh
you had 15 sols to spare on stealing someone's power plus other cool trinkets?

doesn't everyone just get +1-+2-+3 every phase?
I never did that? what

i know, but LC did. where did he get that many sols from

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:03 pm**

he's in the same trium as me so it checks out he could have had that much

this isn't hard to do the math on if you want to check, it's basically public info lol

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:09 pm**

nutella and sloonei, two highest posters in the game, neither died until night 4 when sloonei had been peeked. both in a triumvirate with long con. coincidence???

bronana and lissa, villagy and yeeting wolves, neither died, both in a triumvirate with outed wolf. coincidence???

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:13 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:09 pm nutella and sloonei, two highest posters in the game, neither died until night 4 when sloonei had been peeked. both in a triumvirate with long con. coincidence???

bronana and lissa, villagy and yeeting wolves, neither died, both in a triumvirate with outed wolf. coincidence???

why wouldn't me and nanook be dying tho. if we're both town. are our reads just that shit or sthg

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:22 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:13 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:09 pm nutella and sloonei, two highest posters in the game, neither died until night 4 when sloonei had been peeked. both in a triumvirate with long con. coincidence???

bronana and lissa, villagy and yeeting wolves, neither died, both in a triumvirate with outed wolf. coincidence???
why wouldn't me and nanook be dying tho. if we're both town. are our reads just that shit or sthg

nanook was kinda low-impact for a lot of the game

you were hanging around as a possible suspect for a good number of people iirc

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:25 pm**

Wolves probably also been wary about villagers more likely to purchase the self-protection talisman.

KZA, Sloonei, neither expected to die I'd guess, fairly safe kills that were unlikely to fail or be tampered with.

ted wasn't able to buy anything that would have saved him, and was coming in hot for Marcher + Wilgy (he did also mention OW and moth as suspects).

Also possible they role-copped some villagers and determined they needed to prioritize killing more dangerous roles.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:34 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Guys c’mon we just did this, night is not the time to speculate on who is and isn’t real

Right now Mac and carot are both locked town and no other opinion is worth airing until the day starts
...didnt you start this lol

I’ve only given the company line that Mac is town!

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:45 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:27 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:15 pm i feel good calling the following people town: bronana, carot, lissa, moth, nanook, nutella

i feel cayvie had a super strong start but just disappeared for me enough to want to put her in my poe again

i feel my poe is: macdougall, long con, motobot, outed wolf, cayvie

i've had glimpses of town from both cayvie and OW i think, but not enough to move them into my trusted pile. macdougall could very well be the third cop town has, but i'm still feeling uneasy about the sloonei check and marcher eod shit and how he claimed, and then the whole strongarm thing and getting a result with wilgy's name literally in a game with redirects. too many ????? for me.
seems good to me

motobot have a history of bussing to this extent?

motobot doesn't really have a history to speak of.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:56 pm**

here's a town game for [mention]motobot[/mention]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:00 pm**

[mention]motobot[/mention] have you been spending sols and doing stuff at night? there were 2 whole nights you didn't post (night 1 and night 2), do you have any actions you have done?

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