The Syndicate

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:56 am okay wilgy you can have one of my votes, where am I putting it?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:40 pm look if we trust TLs on /all/ the quote unquote lurkers we're just gonna chop the four people with the least posts and they'll probably all flip town and we'll lose

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:54 am

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:53 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:52 am

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:51 am

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:23 pm Okay I still only have hollowkatt for wolf but

c4e5g3d5
Master Radishes

May be an interesting place to look at

mr feels towny

falcon has a claimed green on mr

ohhhh nicee thx for that

im 20 pgs behind and catching uyp

sabie claimed the shot on ender and hollowkatt claimed the shot on axe also

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:58 am Like, I think that this is a good example of why multivoting makes people dumb.

People may not sus me, but because of my tendency to be unreadable I just get yeeted here instead of potential suspects that people actually want yeeted, all because I'm forever the easiest vote.

Also, I'd not read this as me upset about it or anything. I just hope that town can carry on after this.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:45 pm have work to do
but want to outpost alexa

make meme

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:20 am @Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:58 am Like, I think that this is a good example of why multivoting makes people dumb.

People may not sus me, but because of my tendency to be unreadable I just get yeeted here instead of potential suspects that people actually want yeeted, all because I'm forever the easiest vote.

Also, I'd not read this as me upset about it or anything. I just hope that town can carry on after this.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:03 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:20 am @Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

too much pressure at once, mac

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:05 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:03 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:20 am @Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

too much pressure at once, mac

counterpoint

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:06 am four deaths today 112

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:33 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:31 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:31 pm I'm failing to pinpoint even one wolf

towny

This shade is annoying me

I will always find "hope we lynch a wolf, gosh this game is sooooo hard, I can't find wolves!" type of posts scummy

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:29 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:33 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:31 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:31 pm I'm failing to pinpoint even one wolf

towny

This shade is annoying me

I will always find "hope we lynch a wolf, gosh this game is sooooo hard, I can't find wolves!" type of posts scummy

i will never understand how ur mind works lol

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm Has anyone seen TSP wolf? Can they highpost this enough?

i have wolfed with them before and they definitely can

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 pm I promised to talk some more about my c4 suspicion. It seems he has gained sufficient momentum since last night anyway, but I will still dump my thoughts into the thread.

Something that I feel is sometimes true about mafia members is that they struggle to actively pursue suspicions. It is one thing to name suspects and place votes, but it is another to flesh out reads and have them develop in real time. Making up fake arguments about a person about why they are lying when you know that they are not can be a difficult thing to do, especially when the person you are targeting is capable of being more vocal than you about it. The result is a bunch of stagnant suspicions that fail to take off, with more energy spent arguing (truthfully) about why certain players are town instead of mafia.

I think I see this trend playing out in c4's posts. Observe:

Spoiler: show

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.

The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Is soup kill a thing?

Derp denied

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:05 pm @Sloonei post

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:20 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:14 pm I feel like I shouldn't be the one towncasing myself

Then lemme do it

Creature's strings of posts of talking to himself came off as pure and more drawn out than w!Creature would bother with

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup

hey gamer what's poppin

You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:12 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:10 pm C4, shoot:

Scotty (scummy)

Bo (as KZA wanted)

or

Wilgy (as he requested)

Could totally shoot Scotty

Bo seems to be genuinely enjoying himself and is decently polarized but since both of you know him better do you have specific insights?

Wilgy lolno

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:26 pm Yeah Mac isn't towny lul

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:19 pm Ender townreaders talk to me about Ender pls

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:30 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:44 pm i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

I have an idea of where you can go

Were you paying attention to Sloonei's posting in RYM perchance? It was miles townier than this even with low engagement.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 pm I'm very tempted to just shoot Sloon

Etc.

C4's most substantive Day 1 posts are an exchange with Porscha that lists reasons to suspect her, but never develops in any meaningful way. The rest of c4's Day 1 feels like aimless prodding and asking for direction on who to shoot. I am lacking the full context leading up to his decision to shoot Bo, but based on c4's posts alone I do not find his process to be all that convincing.
The suspects c4 does prod for most of Day 1 are easy options. He starts with Creature, whose playstyle invites suspicion, especially early on. Then he shifts to Porscha, an unfamiliar face with light activity. Then he spends a few posts prodding me with no direction because of my absence/lack of spark. But c4 never actually put real pressure on me. He demanded that I post and then didn't have anything to say to me when I did.

Compare all of this to the amount of time and energy c4 puts into townreading people on Day 1. I am having trouble finding any evidence that he is making a sincere effort to uncover suspects. He steps in to declare town reads every once in a while, and then gropes around listlessly at potential suspects. I'm uninspired by all of this. If c4 is town, I need to see him demonstrate that he is actually trying to develop reads on players.

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:46 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 pm I promised to talk some more about my c4 suspicion. It seems he has gained sufficient momentum since last night anyway, but I will still dump my thoughts into the thread.

Something that I feel is sometimes true about mafia members is that they struggle to actively pursue suspicions. It is one thing to name suspects and place votes, but it is another to flesh out reads and have them develop in real time. Making up fake arguments about a person about why they are lying when you know that they are not can be a difficult thing to do, especially when the person you are targeting is capable of being more vocal than you about it. The result is a bunch of stagnant suspicions that fail to take off, with more energy spent arguing (truthfully) about why certain players are town instead of mafia.

I think I see this trend playing out in c4's posts. Observe:

Spoiler: show

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.

The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Is soup kill a thing?

Derp denied

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:05 pm @Sloonei post

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:20 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:14 pm I feel like I shouldn't be the one towncasing myself

Then lemme do it

Creature's strings of posts of talking to himself came off as pure and more drawn out than w!Creature would bother with

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup

hey gamer what's poppin

You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:12 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:10 pm C4, shoot:

Scotty (scummy)

Bo (as KZA wanted)

or

Wilgy (as he requested)

Could totally shoot Scotty

Bo seems to be genuinely enjoying himself and is decently polarized but since both of you know him better do you have specific insights?

Wilgy lolno

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:26 pm Yeah Mac isn't towny lul

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:19 pm Ender townreaders talk to me about Ender pls

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:30 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:44 pm i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

I have an idea of where you can go

Were you paying attention to Sloonei's posting in RYM perchance? It was miles townier than this even with low engagement.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 pm I'm very tempted to just shoot Sloon

Etc.

C4's most substantive Day 1 posts are an exchange with Porscha that lists reasons to suspect her, but never develops in any meaningful way. The rest of c4's Day 1 feels like aimless prodding and asking for direction on who to shoot. I am lacking the full context leading up to his decision to shoot Bo, but based on c4's posts alone I do not find his process to be all that convincing.
The suspects c4 does prod for most of Day 1 are easy options. He starts with Creature, whose playstyle invites suspicion, especially early on. Then he shifts to Porscha, an unfamiliar face with light activity. Then he spends a few posts prodding me with no direction because of my absence/lack of spark. But c4 never actually put real pressure on me. He demanded that I post and then didn't have anything to say to me when I did.

Compare all of this to the amount of time and energy c4 puts into townreading people on Day 1. I am having trouble finding any evidence that he is making a sincere effort to uncover suspects. He steps in to declare town reads every once in a while, and then gropes around listlessly at potential suspects. I'm uninspired by all of this. If c4 is town, I need to see him demonstrate that he is actually trying to develop reads on players.

case me daddy

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:38 pm my experience in mafia

go to sleep no votes
wake up with all the votes

rinse repeat

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:18 pm ok this is the part of the game where I announce that I’m taking over (from my bed where it’s warm):

Jpic and sig (and me) are the most likely towns with votes I think

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:55 am Radishes you’re the only sane one left in this game

Help

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:22 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:37 am hourly reminder to unvote tsp

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:37 am hourly reminder to unvote tsp

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:37 am hourly reminder to unvote tsp

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:41 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:37 am hourly reminder to unvote tsp

I have to catch up but why is this? I feel like his play here is similar to last game where he was mafia and the eod seasnzie wagon again. I don't believe the entire seanzie wagon was town.