The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:53 pm I pointed out the absurdity of the notion that a Mafia would just infodump a red peek on a civ and then made a case based on her night two action being a cop check of Epi as opposed to INH who was her actual suspect and known Mafia. I thought my case was sound and so did others. I was wrong. I have been wrong a lot this game.

Yes I thought the case was sound and when I added the fact that poutanko had not been here through any of the suspicion that evolved today I felt like I should change my vote. I thought the pout case was riskier than the luna case.

Why is Colin town DharmaHelper?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm Why is Colin town DharmaHelper?

Because Poutanko...isn't.....

Keep up chief.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:53 pm I pointed out the absurdity of the notion that a Mafia would just infodump a red peek on a civ and then made a case based on her night two action being a cop check of Epi as opposed to INH who was her actual suspect and known Mafia. I thought my case was sound and so did others. I was wrong. I have been wrong a lot this game.

Yes I thought the case was sound and when I added the fact that poutanko had not been here through any of the suspicion that evolved today I felt like I should change my vote. I thought the pout case was riskier than the luna case.

I know. But it doesn't matter because Absentee Dad DharmaHelper rolls in with no context puffing his chest out.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm Why is Colin town DharmaHelper?

Because Poutanko...isn't.....

Keep up chief.

Oh cool why is Poutanko scum?

Perplexed because I don’t know who else it could be.

IDK. Pout doing that cop thing is just crazy if she is scum but of late I’ve noticed she reacts very very harshly to suspicion/votes in a way that isn’t very civ-like. And she’s kinda letting us just duke it out. I’m not articulating this very well but I have very few ideas here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:01 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm Why is Colin town DharmaHelper?

Because Poutanko...isn't.....

Keep up chief.

Oh cool why is Poutanko scum?

IDK I wasn't here when we all decided Jack bussed poutanko.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:01 pm Perplexed because I don’t know who else it could be.

IDK. Pout doing that cop thing is just crazy if she is scum but of late I’ve noticed she reacts very very harshly to suspicion/votes in a way that isn’t very civ-like. And she’s kinda letting us just duke it out. I’m not articulating this very well but I have very few ideas here.

Yeah tbh she's been kinda... absent for much of the last few phases

DharmaHelper can you please refrain from the condescending comments. It is making my game play experience unenjoyable.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:01 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm Why is Colin town DharmaHelper?

Because Poutanko...isn't.....

Keep up chief.

Oh cool why is Poutanko scum?

IDK I wasn't here when we all decided Jack bussed poutanko.

Oh cool so when I tug on this rope here there is actually nothing at the end of it.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:02 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:01 pm Perplexed because I don’t know who else it could be.

IDK. Pout doing that cop thing is just crazy if she is scum but of late I’ve noticed she reacts very very harshly to suspicion/votes in a way that isn’t very civ-like. And she’s kinda letting us just duke it out. I’m not articulating this very well but I have very few ideas here.

Yeah tbh she's been kinda... absent for much of the last few phases

If you were the only thing keeping your outted teammate (and whole team) alive would you fuck off out of the thread and let the civs eat each other alive looking for you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:02 pm DharmaHelper can you please refrain from the condescending comments. It is making my game play experience unenjoyable.

I'll do my best

Me? No. I would play like I am playing now.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:02 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:01 pm Perplexed because I don’t know who else it could be.

IDK. Pout doing that cop thing is just crazy if she is scum but of late I’ve noticed she reacts very very harshly to suspicion/votes in a way that isn’t very civ-like. And she’s kinda letting us just duke it out. I’m not articulating this very well but I have very few ideas here.

Yeah tbh she's been kinda... absent for much of the last few phases

If you were the only thing keeping your outted teammate (and whole team) alive would you fuck off out of the thread and let the civs eat each other alive looking for you?

Yeah, kinda, if I felt like I could get away with it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:02 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:01 pm Perplexed because I don’t know who else it could be.

IDK. Pout doing that cop thing is just crazy if she is scum but of late I’ve noticed she reacts very very harshly to suspicion/votes in a way that isn’t very civ-like. And she’s kinda letting us just duke it out. I’m not articulating this very well but I have very few ideas here.

Yeah tbh she's been kinda... absent for much of the last few phases

If you were the only thing keeping your outted teammate (and whole team) alive would you fuck off out of the thread and let the civs eat each other alive looking for you?

Yeah absolutely, she was far enough down the list we've been going down the last couple days that she probably felt it was pretty safe to let us duke it out.

*Gritting teeth in self-control*

Kinda feels like maybe...


*Aneurysm*

We solved it...........

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:08 pm *Gritting teeth in self-control*

Kinda feels like maybe...


*Aneurysm*

We solved it...........

Yeah dude I am kicking myself for not staying on her. But Mac had good points and my hunches shifted around rapidly.

lol Poutanko is in Hufflepuff

I'm in awe

I am gonna just defer

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:16 pm lol Poutanko is in Hufflepuff

I'm in awe

yknow I was gonna bring that up lmao

Anyway Day 8 should be fun

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:30 pm

Unfortune Telling

Lunalee was the top student of Divination in Hogwarts. She never skipped a class, got the best grades, and heck, was apparently the only person who understood what the Divination professor said.

Problem is, even in 2018, Divination was not yet considered a science.

Everybody put up with her ramblings about what the future reserved, but when she joined the student squad that was investigating the New Death Eaters, it became personal. She decided to put her skills to use to find the culprits. And with that, sooner or later someone would call her a fraud.

One day, while trying to find Jack's horcrux, they did. Knowing the future didn't help Lunalee this time.

Lunalee (Hogwarts Student) was lynched.

Abilities:

Arresto Momentum
Divination
Hippogriff (Odd Nights)

Night 7 Begins!

Jack pls

You're too late Jack I already went over with everyone why lynching Luna was a goober move. They took it well.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:52 pm You're too late Jack I already went over with everyone why lynching Luna was a goober move. They took it well.

Oh okay. Carry on.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:53 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:52 pm You're too late Jack I already went over with everyone why lynching Luna was a goober move. They took it well.

Oh okay. Carry on.

Did you see the part where we caught your teammate that was fun.

I say "we" but I really didn't have much to do with it.

...lynch pou while she's away 2.0

I'm Town. I have Amortentia (made it N4, shoved it on Jack N5) and dodo.

Currently on vacation, I've mentioned this before. If I'm still alive next DP I'll lend you a hand to lynch myself so I can enjoy my vacation fully

Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

oops I should have typed the alert [mention]poutanko[/mention], ^^ see above.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.

I keep voting Bullz D2 D3 because of my result if that means anything.

I don't even know man the last mafia is pretty sneaky.

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:02 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.

I was asking for the strongest clues that are out there, in your opinion, that show YOU to be civ. What things should we be pointing to and saying "See, Pout is civ". I'm not looking for who you think is civ, I'm looking for things that make YOU civ. I'm looking for those things because the chances are good we will be talking about whether to vote for you or not tomorrow. We did that today but you weren't here to defend yourself. So another way for me to ask this is "What do you say in your defense to people calling you scum?"

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:53 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:52 pm You're too late Jack I already went over with everyone why lynching Luna was a goober move. They took it well.

Oh okay. Carry on.

Did you see the part where we caught your teammate that was fun.

Oh noooooooes?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:22 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:02 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.

I was asking for the strongest clues that are out there, in your opinion, that show YOU to be civ. What things should we be pointing to and saying "See, Pout is civ". I'm not looking for who you think is civ, I'm looking for things that make YOU civ. I'm looking for those things because the chances are good we will be talking about whether to vote for you or not tomorrow. We did that today but you weren't here to defend yourself. So another way for me to ask this is "What do you say in your defense to people calling you scum?"

They are wrong. What benefit do I get from claiming I got guilty on Bullz? All I see I was being dragged on due to him flipping town. I attracted attention when it's not necessary and no benefit I got from it.

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:27 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:22 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:02 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.

I was asking for the strongest clues that are out there, in your opinion, that show YOU to be civ. What things should we be pointing to and saying "See, Pout is civ". I'm not looking for who you think is civ, I'm looking for things that make YOU civ. I'm looking for those things because the chances are good we will be talking about whether to vote for you or not tomorrow. We did that today but you weren't here to defend yourself. So another way for me to ask this is "What do you say in your defense to people calling you scum?"

They are wrong. What benefit do I get from claiming I got guilty on Bullz? All I see I was being dragged on due to him flipping town. I attracted attention when it's not necessary and no benefit I got from it.

Ok, thats a start but ignore the false read on Bullz. What have you done to show you are civ besides post your two cop checks?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:32 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:27 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:22 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:02 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.

I was asking for the strongest clues that are out there, in your opinion, that show YOU to be civ. What things should we be pointing to and saying "See, Pout is civ". I'm not looking for who you think is civ, I'm looking for things that make YOU civ. I'm looking for those things because the chances are good we will be talking about whether to vote for you or not tomorrow. We did that today but you weren't here to defend yourself. So another way for me to ask this is "What do you say in your defense to people calling you scum?"

They are wrong. What benefit do I get from claiming I got guilty on Bullz? All I see I was being dragged on due to him flipping town. I attracted attention when it's not necessary and no benefit I got from it.

Ok, thats a start but ignore the false read on Bullz. What have you done to show you are civ besides post your two cop checks?

What have I done to be read as scum?
I tried to post my read or pointed things that attract my attention. Many of them were ignored or forgotten that I had to repeat. It's not as bad before Bullz flip. After his flip it felt like whatever I said was not considered seriously.

[mention]poutanko[/mention] I don't think that's true though. I think the issue is there is A LOT of information in the thread and it's hard to remember all of it. I know Mac and DH and nutella have all made points that they have had to repeat because the comment got lost in the shuffle. You have to be willing to do that in a game like this one where there have been a lot of people talking, make your point once, twice, and if someone asks you like I am now by all means make your points again. I don't want to vote you if you're civ so take this opportunity to tell us how we should know you are civ.

[mention]poutanko[/mention]

If you can’t think of why you’re town, explain what you’ve done, say wild a lot and say that would be garbo play if you were scum.

I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:44 pm I don't want to vote you if you're civ so take this opportunity to tell us how we should know you are civ.

I tried my best with the time I had.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

ok, the false red peak is the biggest thing I can think of in her favor too, I just wanted to see if there is anything else I should consider. And yes, at this point it could be Colin or anyone else as a deep wolf. So I give up for the night.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

People keep mentioning Glorf truth meta, doesn't that mean she's confirmed town?

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

People keep mentioning Glorf truth meta, doesn't that mean she's confirmed town?

Well, the caveat to the truth meta argument is that maybe Glorf for the first time lied about his alignment.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:01 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

People keep mentioning Glorf truth meta, doesn't that mean she's confirmed town?

Well, the caveat to the truth meta argument is that maybe Glorf for the first time lied about his alignment.

True but Iirc you said he claimed town after vote was locked. No effect on the lynch direction. As for you yourself, for what reason if you are scum, claimed to use Phoenix same night INH was revived? That's unnecessary. Same thing with Nutella claiming to block Colin when he can simply be lynched due to Mac's result on him. Which mean you two are more likely Town.

DH and MacD had quite an argument I'm yet to read.

IDK if Mac is bad after his poo-pooing today I'm gonna be sad.

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:10 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:01 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

People keep mentioning Glorf truth meta, doesn't that mean she's confirmed town?

Well, the caveat to the truth meta argument is that maybe Glorf for the first time lied about his alignment.

True but Iirc you said he claimed town after vote was locked. No effect on the lynch direction. As for you yourself, for what reason if you are scum, claimed to use Phoenix same night INH was revived? That's unnecessary. Same thing with Nutella claiming to block Colin when he can simply be lynched due to Mac's result on him. Which mean you two are more likely Town.

Are you saying there was evidence sufficient to lynch Colin despite your green peek on him?