Re: Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:58 pm
How about I promise to actually iso you instead of coasting by on impressions before EoD.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Sure.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:58 pm How about I promise to actually iso you instead of coasting by on impressions before EoD.
I've also been getting some weird pings from Nutella. I don't really blame people for having me in the PoE since I'm probably null to most, but Nutella has kind of pushed on me in ways that feel less than genuine. Super heavy posting I think is a common thing good wolves do to get townread, and I worry that a lot of people have Nutella on their towny side because of this, not because Nutella is actually doing much that is towny.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pmI agree with you on Nutella. Kinda meh on your townread on Mac just for that? KZA is tinfoiling but I townread him. Radishes has his moments of mud and clarity, there are some posts I've really liked from him. I don't know about Chard, but if Nutella is wolf then I think Chard is spewed town, I explained why in my nutella iso read.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:16 pm Here’s my spicy take tho.
Nutella has made no attempt at all to read me or Epi all game, the two players she claims to suspect most.
Seriously. Look at her posts. Do you see someone trying to figure out someone else’s alignment? I don’t. What I do see is someone who wants Goru alive at the end of the day. That’s extra sus if Goru is a wolf.
I think Chard is town. He feels too comfortable to be a wolf unless the other wolves are some really weird couple like 112 and Quas and that’s just generally unlikely.
Mac’s “you got got, nerd” is fine. Wrongtown Mac would say something like that. Still a pretty solid townread.
Kza’s read on me is problematic but there’s enough reason to townread him besides that he’s probably just wrongtown.
I’m not sure on Radishes. Nothing he’s saying pings me as dishonest per se but Radishes is generally good at reading me and it’s concerning that he’s so wrong. New players incorrectly suspecting me? Normal. Nutella or Mac incorrectly suspecting me? Super normal. Radishes incorrectly suspecting me tends not to happen. Twice in recent history, he’s been arguably my strongest supporter while I was a consensus suspect and he was totally right to peg me as a townie. Heck, one of those games involved “weird interactions” between WMichelle and TJack D1 ending with a D1 WMichelle yeet. So why is town Radishes off? But I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest so idk. Conflicted. He can stay in the poe.
Nah. I have Nutella in my towncore because of *how* they went about solving in D1/D2. They had that solving spark that felt like they were genuinely hunting. We mindmelded in real time at least once, and in general her view is my view of the game as a whole.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:04 pmI've also been getting some weird pings from Nutella. I don't really blame people for having me in the PoE since I'm probably null to most, but Nutella has kind of pushed on me in ways that feel less than genuine. Super heavy posting I think is a common thing good wolves do to get townread, and I worry that a lot of people have Nutella on their towny side because of this, not because Nutella is actually doing much that is towny.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pmI agree with you on Nutella. Kinda meh on your townread on Mac just for that? KZA is tinfoiling but I townread him. Radishes has his moments of mud and clarity, there are some posts I've really liked from him. I don't know about Chard, but if Nutella is wolf then I think Chard is spewed town, I explained why in my nutella iso read.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:16 pm Here’s my spicy take tho.
Nutella has made no attempt at all to read me or Epi all game, the two players she claims to suspect most.
Seriously. Look at her posts. Do you see someone trying to figure out someone else’s alignment? I don’t. What I do see is someone who wants Goru alive at the end of the day. That’s extra sus if Goru is a wolf.
I think Chard is town. He feels too comfortable to be a wolf unless the other wolves are some really weird couple like 112 and Quas and that’s just generally unlikely.
Mac’s “you got got, nerd” is fine. Wrongtown Mac would say something like that. Still a pretty solid townread.
Kza’s read on me is problematic but there’s enough reason to townread him besides that he’s probably just wrongtown.
I’m not sure on Radishes. Nothing he’s saying pings me as dishonest per se but Radishes is generally good at reading me and it’s concerning that he’s so wrong. New players incorrectly suspecting me? Normal. Nutella or Mac incorrectly suspecting me? Super normal. Radishes incorrectly suspecting me tends not to happen. Twice in recent history, he’s been arguably my strongest supporter while I was a consensus suspect and he was totally right to peg me as a townie. Heck, one of those games involved “weird interactions” between WMichelle and TJack D1 ending with a D1 WMichelle yeet. So why is town Radishes off? But I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest so idk. Conflicted. He can stay in the poe.
aight, mostly has to do with being just unable to play d3 b/c it was like 10 hours long and irl stuff so there was like 5 days of night for me lolMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:13 pmI mean I don't blame you, considering your path to your wincon.
How's it going?
i have a p good guessMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:14 pmPurely out of curiosity, do you think you know my role?
i thought your role was out in the open since d2Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:14 pmPurely out of curiosity, do you think you know my role?
I barely read any of D1, and only some of D2, so yeah if Nutella looked better then, than yeah, idk if I would have seen it, so sorry my read isn't taking that into account.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:13 pmNah. I have Nutella in my towncore because of *how* they went about solving in D1/D2. They had that solving spark that felt like they were genuinely hunting. We mindmelded in real time at least once, and in general her view is my view of the game as a whole.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:04 pmI've also been getting some weird pings from Nutella. I don't really blame people for having me in the PoE since I'm probably null to most, but Nutella has kind of pushed on me in ways that feel less than genuine. Super heavy posting I think is a common thing good wolves do to get townread, and I worry that a lot of people have Nutella on their towny side because of this, not because Nutella is actually doing much that is towny.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pmI agree with you on Nutella. Kinda meh on your townread on Mac just for that? KZA is tinfoiling but I townread him. Radishes has his moments of mud and clarity, there are some posts I've really liked from him. I don't know about Chard, but if Nutella is wolf then I think Chard is spewed town, I explained why in my nutella iso read.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:16 pm Here’s my spicy take tho.
Nutella has made no attempt at all to read me or Epi all game, the two players she claims to suspect most.
Seriously. Look at her posts. Do you see someone trying to figure out someone else’s alignment? I don’t. What I do see is someone who wants Goru alive at the end of the day. That’s extra sus if Goru is a wolf.
I think Chard is town. He feels too comfortable to be a wolf unless the other wolves are some really weird couple like 112 and Quas and that’s just generally unlikely.
Mac’s “you got got, nerd” is fine. Wrongtown Mac would say something like that. Still a pretty solid townread.
Kza’s read on me is problematic but there’s enough reason to townread him besides that he’s probably just wrongtown.
I’m not sure on Radishes. Nothing he’s saying pings me as dishonest per se but Radishes is generally good at reading me and it’s concerning that he’s so wrong. New players incorrectly suspecting me? Normal. Nutella or Mac incorrectly suspecting me? Super normal. Radishes incorrectly suspecting me tends not to happen. Twice in recent history, he’s been arguably my strongest supporter while I was a consensus suspect and he was totally right to peg me as a townie. Heck, one of those games involved “weird interactions” between WMichelle and TJack D1 ending with a D1 WMichelle yeet. So why is town Radishes off? But I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest so idk. Conflicted. He can stay in the poe.
I agree she's lagged behind recently in the sense that she's rolling with the momentum of the game, but also the momentum has led to hits, so I'm doing the same and so is my strongest townread Kaz.
I can nitpick things, like her overall progression on Michelle. And if we inch towards end game and struggle to flip the final wolves, I'll definitely be re-evaluating her first before Kaz or Made (my other strong townreads).
But so far the Town, as a whole, has done a solid job finding the scum team, and I see no reason to start becoming paranoid about a key member of that successful Town at this moment in time.
Oh, okay. Well thanks for bothering me:P
can you talk about why you're town instead of saying the votes on you are justified and not parrying at all?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:39 pmOh, okay. Well thanks for bothering me:P
Not really happy about the votes, but also kind of saw it coming since I am in red or orange in almost everyone's reads lists. Trying to do what I can to not be today's mislunch though, since I haven't been particularly helpful to town in any other ways.
town is 50/50 on their kp is the point ppl are makingSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:31 pmI barely read any of D1, and only some of D2, so yeah if Nutella looked better then, than yeah, idk if I would have seen it, so sorry my read isn't taking that into account.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:13 pmNah. I have Nutella in my towncore because of *how* they went about solving in D1/D2. They had that solving spark that felt like they were genuinely hunting. We mindmelded in real time at least once, and in general her view is my view of the game as a whole.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:04 pmI've also been getting some weird pings from Nutella. I don't really blame people for having me in the PoE since I'm probably null to most, but Nutella has kind of pushed on me in ways that feel less than genuine. Super heavy posting I think is a common thing good wolves do to get townread, and I worry that a lot of people have Nutella on their towny side because of this, not because Nutella is actually doing much that is towny.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pmI agree with you on Nutella. Kinda meh on your townread on Mac just for that? KZA is tinfoiling but I townread him. Radishes has his moments of mud and clarity, there are some posts I've really liked from him. I don't know about Chard, but if Nutella is wolf then I think Chard is spewed town, I explained why in my nutella iso read.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:16 pm Here’s my spicy take tho.
Nutella has made no attempt at all to read me or Epi all game, the two players she claims to suspect most.
Seriously. Look at her posts. Do you see someone trying to figure out someone else’s alignment? I don’t. What I do see is someone who wants Goru alive at the end of the day. That’s extra sus if Goru is a wolf.
I think Chard is town. He feels too comfortable to be a wolf unless the other wolves are some really weird couple like 112 and Quas and that’s just generally unlikely.
Mac’s “you got got, nerd” is fine. Wrongtown Mac would say something like that. Still a pretty solid townread.
Kza’s read on me is problematic but there’s enough reason to townread him besides that he’s probably just wrongtown.
I’m not sure on Radishes. Nothing he’s saying pings me as dishonest per se but Radishes is generally good at reading me and it’s concerning that he’s so wrong. New players incorrectly suspecting me? Normal. Nutella or Mac incorrectly suspecting me? Super normal. Radishes incorrectly suspecting me tends not to happen. Twice in recent history, he’s been arguably my strongest supporter while I was a consensus suspect and he was totally right to peg me as a townie. Heck, one of those games involved “weird interactions” between WMichelle and TJack D1 ending with a D1 WMichelle yeet. So why is town Radishes off? But I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest so idk. Conflicted. He can stay in the poe.
I agree she's lagged behind recently in the sense that she's rolling with the momentum of the game, but also the momentum has led to hits, so I'm doing the same and so is my strongest townread Kaz.
I can nitpick things, like her overall progression on Michelle. And if we inch towards end game and struggle to flip the final wolves, I'll definitely be re-evaluating her first before Kaz or Made (my other strong townreads).
But so far the Town, as a whole, has done a solid job finding the scum team, and I see no reason to start becoming paranoid about a key member of that successful Town at this moment in time.
I don't understand your momentum thing? We had a vig kill, and then happened to have a weird claim, fake CC that happened to result in a wolf kill. Aside from that though, we have 9 dead townies, and only 2 dead wolves? How are you giving town a "solid job" here? We aren't doing all that great from my perspective, especially if people are thinking about lunching me today (I admit though, this is largely my fault for missing D1, then not being able to get caught up). I'm hoping some of the PoEs that people have are going to be hits, but there is no guarantee of that, and I recommend you don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Either way, yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I have a super strong case on Nutella. Just thought it was worth mention that they have pinged me a few times since some other people seem to also be having reservations about Nutella.
I literally haven't been caught up all game. If there was something that I thought would be compelling to help people townread me, I would offer it, but like... I can't argue with anyone's null read because I really haven't done much. I could list a few things, but it would all just be WIFOM (like why would I lurk 4 days, and when having no towncred/being in the main PoE decide to mention being pinged by the highest poster in the game).112 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:48 pmcan you talk about why you're town instead of saying the votes on you are justified and not parrying at all?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:39 pmOh, okay. Well thanks for bothering me:P
Not really happy about the votes, but also kind of saw it coming since I am in red or orange in almost everyone's reads lists. Trying to do what I can to not be today's mislunch though, since I haven't been particularly helpful to town in any other ways.
First off, I'd like to clarify that I didn't NOT believe the redcheck on Grogu, just that I mostly was reserving judgement on it. I didn't even know you faked a redcheck at first (I found out about the redcheck because someone mentioned that Mac had a redcheck).
Which hits do you credit Nutella for?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:13 pmNah. I have Nutella in my towncore because of *how* they went about solving in D1/D2. They had that solving spark that felt like they were genuinely hunting. We mindmelded in real time at least once, and in general her view is my view of the game as a whole.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:04 pmI've also been getting some weird pings from Nutella. I don't really blame people for having me in the PoE since I'm probably null to most, but Nutella has kind of pushed on me in ways that feel less than genuine. Super heavy posting I think is a common thing good wolves do to get townread, and I worry that a lot of people have Nutella on their towny side because of this, not because Nutella is actually doing much that is towny.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pmI agree with you on Nutella. Kinda meh on your townread on Mac just for that? KZA is tinfoiling but I townread him. Radishes has his moments of mud and clarity, there are some posts I've really liked from him. I don't know about Chard, but if Nutella is wolf then I think Chard is spewed town, I explained why in my nutella iso read.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:16 pm Here’s my spicy take tho.
Nutella has made no attempt at all to read me or Epi all game, the two players she claims to suspect most.
Seriously. Look at her posts. Do you see someone trying to figure out someone else’s alignment? I don’t. What I do see is someone who wants Goru alive at the end of the day. That’s extra sus if Goru is a wolf.
I think Chard is town. He feels too comfortable to be a wolf unless the other wolves are some really weird couple like 112 and Quas and that’s just generally unlikely.
Mac’s “you got got, nerd” is fine. Wrongtown Mac would say something like that. Still a pretty solid townread.
Kza’s read on me is problematic but there’s enough reason to townread him besides that he’s probably just wrongtown.
I’m not sure on Radishes. Nothing he’s saying pings me as dishonest per se but Radishes is generally good at reading me and it’s concerning that he’s so wrong. New players incorrectly suspecting me? Normal. Nutella or Mac incorrectly suspecting me? Super normal. Radishes incorrectly suspecting me tends not to happen. Twice in recent history, he’s been arguably my strongest supporter while I was a consensus suspect and he was totally right to peg me as a townie. Heck, one of those games involved “weird interactions” between WMichelle and TJack D1 ending with a D1 WMichelle yeet. So why is town Radishes off? But I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest so idk. Conflicted. He can stay in the poe.
I agree she's lagged behind recently in the sense that she's rolling with the momentum of the game, but also the momentum has led to hits, so I'm doing the same and so is my strongest townread Kaz.
I can nitpick things, like her overall progression on Michelle. And if we inch towards end game and struggle to flip the final wolves, I'll definitely be re-evaluating her first before Kaz or Made (my other strong townreads).
But so far the Town, as a whole, has done a solid job finding the scum team, and I see no reason to start becoming paranoid about a key member of that successful Town at this moment in time.
Also worth noting that townies faking claims or checks is pretty uncommon on my home forum, MafC. It has happened, but like... I am pretty sure more townfolk have lied in this game than in all my games there combined. So, coming in D2, I wasn't really expecting to see a lot of townfolk lying about results.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:10 pmFirst off, I'd like to clarify that I didn't NOT believe the redcheck on Grogu, just that I mostly was reserving judgement on it. I didn't even know you faked a redcheck at first (I found out about the redcheck because someone mentioned that Mac had a redcheck).
Simple answer: DoO's redcheck was the first fake thing I had read in the game (idk if anyone did any notable lies in D1, I wasn't around then, and only read a few pages of it). Since then though, there have been a ton of lies and deceptions in the thread, so I am a bit more skeptical about what people say now.
Plus, DoO followed it up with saying she strongarmed the check, which added credibility. Essentially that makes it so that DoO was claiming that if we lunched Falcon and Falcon flipped town, we should lunch DoO.
It doesn’t make me town, but it also doesn’t make me a wolf. All it does is take 3 players from the cop possibilities.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:49 pmThe idea that everyone who isn’t the cop fakes red peeks on the same player as cover for each other while each thinks one of the other players faking the peek is telling the truth is hilarious and I hope that isn’t what happened.chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:23 amtbh i felt like i struck gold with the Grogu push when several other people were pushing it shortly after. Made me feel like the Noir has check Goru last night and got a guilty. lolKZA wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:08 amyeah I don't really know you and had this idea that someone else would have to be scumreading Grogu hard but then I was like nah...he can pick his own soft targetchardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:06 amI thought making a hard low info push that was out of character for my more laid back nature would make it look like a cop soft.
SO then i could draw mafia away from cop hunting elsewhere.![]()
I still think Grogu is scummy tho. Im just having a hard time writing out a meaningful explanation.
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This whole cop cover thing that happened today makes me want to run a roster wide "Hypocop" WHere everybody outs there hypotical results if they the were the cop. Could be fun and useful since cop chould have 3 results to share. THoughts?
But even if it is, that doesn’t make Goru town.
1 at best. Awful and wolfyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:21 pm Baby Yoda/Nutella/Radishes.
You’re welcome, hee hos.
Guillotine has been very weird with his push. You quoted a post that had no incriminating nothing in it. You are delusionalGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:57 pmGrogu has very incriminating posts but I'm not sure if a wolf wouldn't be careful to not post those posts.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:49 pmThe idea that everyone who isn’t the cop fakes red peeks on the same player as cover for each other while each thinks one of the other players faking the peek is telling the truth is hilarious and I hope that isn’t what happened.chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:23 amtbh i felt like i struck gold with the Grogu push when several other people were pushing it shortly after. Made me feel like the Noir has check Goru last night and got a guilty. lolKZA wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:08 amyeah I don't really know you and had this idea that someone else would have to be scumreading Grogu hard but then I was like nah...he can pick his own soft targetchardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:06 amI thought making a hard low info push that was out of character for my more laid back nature would make it look like a cop soft.
SO then i could draw mafia away from cop hunting elsewhere.![]()
I still think Grogu is scummy tho. Im just having a hard time writing out a meaningful explanation.
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This whole cop cover thing that happened today makes me want to run a roster wide "Hypocop" WHere everybody outs there hypotical results if they the were the cop. Could be fun and useful since cop chould have 3 results to share. THoughts?
But even if it is, that doesn’t make Goru town.
Like, can wolves be derps? I think they can be, I've seen clueless wolves in the games I've hosted. (Caccio) At what point derping is too much derp and scum indicative? Also I wouldn't discard the possibility that a wolf would fake red check in the middle of the claim fuckery to blend in.
If you're implying a claim just be aware I will not be here for the last 3ish hours of the round so my vote won't be moving after that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:34 pm
Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.
I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.
Then you should reevaluate before then, shouldn’t you?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:38 pmIf you're implying a claim just be aware I will not be here for the last 3ish hours of the round so my vote won't be moving after that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:34 pm
Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.
I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.
This is the way. I have spoken!
What wolf did you help catch?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:40 pmThen you should reevaluate before then, shouldn’t you?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:38 pmIf you're implying a claim just be aware I will not be here for the last 3ish hours of the round so my vote won't be moving after that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:34 pm
Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.
I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.
Again, what wolf did Nutella help catch?
Michelle.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:42 pmWhat wolf did you help catch?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:40 pmThen you should reevaluate before then, shouldn’t you?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:38 pmIf you're implying a claim just be aware I will not be here for the last 3ish hours of the round so my vote won't be moving after that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:34 pm
Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.
I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.
Again, what wolf did Nutella help catch?
You didn't do anything to catch Michelle. You subbed in and voted alongside many other people and said 'yeah I see it too'.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:43 pmMichelle.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:42 pmWhat wolf did you help catch?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:40 pmThen you should reevaluate before then, shouldn’t you?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:38 pmIf you're implying a claim just be aware I will not be here for the last 3ish hours of the round so my vote won't be moving after that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:34 pm
Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.
I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.
Again, what wolf did Nutella help catch?
But that doesn’t answer my question.