The Syndicate

I'm impressed, but at the same time quite annoyed. Why? Besides the illusory correlation, which I suppose is proven by the result of the NK, this is one of those rare occasions where I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance and quite a bit of a backfire effect. I refuse to believe that someone as intelligent as Nev would make such a poor excuse for voting for me, especially in that particular context, not to mention the nature of his replies. I'm sure there are better reasons for suspecting me, but not because I'm serious and make on topic posts. Come on! I'm rarely serious in a game, but this is your lucky day. So, with the backfire effect in mind, unless he's not rezzed, he's still bad in my book. Thanks a lot, baddies. It's like when I'm drunk - I do realise that I turn into a wobbly nonsensical posh person and I also realise just how ridiculous that looks, yet I still have no control over my behaviour. :\

Tl;dr - I suck at this.

Lizzy, despite my comment and the fact that Nev died right after voting for you and calling you out, I do get the feeling that he is wrong about you and I will not be voting for you. I trust my gut more than anything else... I just hope I'm not wrong

Also, it's still possible that Nev was Brownie

Mister Rearranger wrote:EBWOP: I can think of 2, but one is a civ, one is bad, and neither would be voting for themselves to achieve anything positive for the civvies.

I see where self-voting would work for Tofu Boy, but why would it help a baddie? Unless you think Vomps is Fetus and is just bouncing off his own immunity, which seems counterproductive.

Ok... I'm going to cast the first vote today because I can easily see myself completely forgetting to get back on and vote before the deadline on a day like this. It should be no surprise who my choice is. It was all fun and games the first few days, however, he is scaring me now and if he keeps this up, Jigsaw is going to end up killing me VERY soon. Normally I wouldn't do this, but I would like to ask for everyone's help. Please help me lynch Jigsaw before he kills me. If he is a civ, he is not a helpful civ. He hasn't contributed much at all and he hasn't given me anything to defend myself against ("I think Devin is Dr. Fetus"). That's it. Would you want to keep that around? Or would you want to keep around a useful civ who wants to contribute to the cause?

Thank you in advance for any assistance I receive (if any).
Peace out!! *votes*

Boomslang wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:EBWOP: I can think of 2, but one is a civ, one is bad, and neither would be voting for themselves to achieve anything positive for the civvies.

I see where self-voting would work for Tofu Boy, but why would it help a baddie? Unless you think Vomps is Fetus and is just bouncing off his own immunity, which seems counterproductive.

Wait... What?? How would self-voting work for Tofu Boy? I assume his lives work the same as anyone else's. Plus I would assume he would have the least amount of lives in the game...

Something I don't understand, Lizzy- (maybe its a video game thing) wasn't nev killed by chad? Does chad kill members of his own team?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:EBWOP: I can think of 2, but one is a civ, one is bad, and neither would be voting for themselves to achieve anything positive for the civvies.

I see where self-voting would work for Tofu Boy, but why would it help a baddie? Unless you think Vomps is Fetus and is just bouncing off his own immunity, which seems counterproductive.

Wait... What?? How would self-voting work for Tofu Boy? I assume his lives work the same as anyone else's. Plus I would assume he would have the least amount of lives in the game...

He's got "suicidal" in the role description, yo? I think it's safe to assume he's gotta benefit somehow from getting hurt.

Boomslang wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:EBWOP: I can think of 2, but one is a civ, one is bad, and neither would be voting for themselves to achieve anything positive for the civvies.

I see where self-voting would work for Tofu Boy, but why would it help a baddie? Unless you think Vomps is Fetus and is just bouncing off his own immunity, which seems counterproductive.

Wait... What?? How would self-voting work for Tofu Boy? I assume his lives work the same as anyone else's. Plus I would assume he would have the least amount of lives in the game...

He's got "suicidal" in the role description, yo? I think it's safe to assume he's gotta benefit somehow from getting hurt.

I can see where a suicidal role would be forced to vote for himself under certain circumstances (thus opening the possibility of Vomps being Tofu Boy). But, by definition these self-votes will eventually result in his death rather than benefiting him.

The only civ role I can see that would not be affected by self-votes is Bandage Girl. She cannot be killed while in Dr. Fetus's possession.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Ok... I'm going to cast the first vote today

Your bravery is an inspiration to us all. I will gladly help you kill the insidious Jigsaw.

Bandwagon, ho!

thellama73 wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Ok... I'm going to cast the first vote today

Your bravery is an inspiration to us all. I will gladly help you kill the insidious Jigsaw.

Bandwagon, ho!

Bandwagons feel great when you're riding them rather than getting run over :P

Okay guys, sorry I haven't been posting. But I need to tell you that I am not Doctor Fetus. I need to keep you guys updated more, and I'm sorry Devin, I just suspect you as being him...you're giving off a weird vibe..

Jigsaw wrote:Okay guys, sorry I haven't been posting. But I need to tell you that I am not Doctor Fetus. I need to keep you guys updated more, and I'm sorry Devin, I just suspect you as being him...you're giving off a weird vibe..

If you think Devin is Dr. Fetus, why are you voting for him?

YOUR STORY IS FULL OF HOLES, JIGSAW, AND YOU ARE GOING DOWN!

I don't know why you think its me anyway? I mean I found his ass in level 2 in the first world. And I told you guys I could pick 3 levels that one time. I'm being honest. If you wanna kill me go ahead, but I promise I am not Doctor Fetus.

Why wouldn't I vite for him If I think he's Doctor Fetus?

Jigsaw wrote:Why wouldn't I vite for him If I think he's Doctor Fetus?

Because read the roles. That's why.

Because I think bandwagoning is key in this game, I vote Jiggers.

he said something at the beginning of the game that made me suspect him..I honestly forgot what he said. And I know devin in real life. He's giving off a vibe man..

Im going to vote jigsaw, because the love/hate rest going on between devin, llama, and jigsaw is odd for lack of a better word. Also because I still don't know my ass from first base in this game. Votes jigsaw

Well, the thing that has stood out to me most has been the push against Hedgeowl with, from what I've seen, absolutely no evidence at all. I'm convinced there's something sinister going on there, though I'm not sure if it stems from llama for starting it or from the bandwagon-hoppers who followed his lead.

Also, I personally doubt that Tofu Boy benefits from being suicidal, whether that means he actually has to vote for himself or not. MP had a similar role in his Bioshock game. I believe it was a piano player who had an increasing chance of killing himself every night. It was kind of a doomed role, and the player certainly didn't benefit from being dead, but I don't think it's far-fetched at all to say MP put a role in this game that is designed to eventually kill itself with no benefit to civs or baddies.

Matahari wrote:Something I don't understand, Lizzy- (maybe its a video game thing) wasn't nev killed by chad? Does chad kill members of his own team?

So long as he doesn't target the Doc, I suspect it is possible. Not very likely though.

Bandwagoning on Jiggy, I see. Fine, I don't why just yet. However, if he's a civ, I assume it might take a few days to lynch him. In the mean time, I'll go with what I have at the moment - MR.

... who is not on the poll today.

Lizzy, why do you suspect MR? I was thinking about him (and you, for that matter) for your Hedgeowl votes the other day. I haven't played with him before though, so I don't have a confident read on him yet. I may have missed it in my reread, but what about him caught your eye?

Russtifinko wrote:Lizzy, why do you suspect MR? I was thinking about him (and you, for that matter) for your Hedgeowl votes the other day. I haven't played with him before though, so I don't have a confident read on him yet. I may have missed it in my reread, but what about him caught your eye?

Ugh! I've said this over and over again: I think he slipped.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Then he decided to sacrifice Goosey to cover his tracks... or maybe someone is framing him, or... maybe it's just a coincidence.

As soon as I saw the Night 2 kill, my first thought was that CHAD was framing him, tbh.

How can someone who has only recently registered on the board know about Llama and Mongoose, and thus the possibility of Llama being framed when Goosey was NK'd on night 2, unless someone has been telling him about in the chat?

His reply, of course, less than satisfactory:

I put in work, read the thread, and came to a conclusion as most people do when they play...?

Yeah, right!

Apparently, being off the poll also renders you silent. I'm going to hypothesize that this is a result of warp[ zoning. I'm picking a warp zone tonight, so if I disappear tomorrow, you will know why.

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Lizzy, why do you suspect MR? I was thinking about him (and you, for that matter) for your Hedgeowl votes the other day. I haven't played with him before though, so I don't have a confident read on him yet. I may have missed it in my reread, but what about him caught your eye?

Ugh! I've said this over and over again: I think he slipped.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Then he decided to sacrifice Goosey to cover his tracks... or maybe someone is framing him, or... maybe it's just a coincidence.

As soon as I saw the Night 2 kill, my first thought was that CHAD was framing him, tbh.

How can someone who has only recently registered on the board know about Llama and Mongoose, and thus the possibility of Llama being framed when Goosey was NK'd on night 2, unless someone has been telling him about in the chat?

His reply, of course, less than satisfactory:

I put in work, read the thread, and came to a conclusion as most people do when they play...?

Yeah, right!

I somehow missed this theory of yours before, but it does make me wonder. Does that make you not suspect llama, but rather someone who is framing him and filled MR in on the deets?

I am a bit at a loss who to vote for currently, but we have several other players I hope to hear from soon. I am just not sure about the jiggy bandwagon, but it does looks like we would get info there. I tend to beleive him currently though.

thellama73 wrote:Apparently, being off the poll also renders you silent. I'm going to hypothesize that this is a result of warp[ zoning. I'm picking a warp zone tonight, so if I disappear tomorrow, you will know why.

Convenient way to dodge suspicion and get off radar. You won't pick a warp zone if you're dead. *votes llama*

Boomslang wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Apparently, being off the poll also renders you silent. I'm going to hypothesize that this is a result of warp[ zoning. I'm picking a warp zone tonight, so if I disappear tomorrow, you will know why.

Convenient way to dodge suspicion and get off radar. You won't pick a warp zone if you're dead. *votes llama*

Oh, I don't think I'm going to be dead.

Hedgeowl wrote:
I somehow missed this theory of yours before, but it does make me wonder. Does that make you not suspect llama, but rather someone who is framing him and filled MR in on the deets?

I did and still do suspect Llama, but this was another reason why I thought Nev was involved. If Llama is indeed behind it, then he's probably the Doc and it's no use voting for him.:\

I am a bit at a loss who to vote for currently, but we have several other players I hope to hear from soon. I am just not sure about the jiggy bandwagon, but it does looks like we would get info there. I tend to beleive him currently though.

I don't know either. You could be an option, Vomps is not very into it, DP as well... Not sure. I may resort to the self vote of shame on this occasion.

:'(

I voted Boomslang.

Epignosis wrote:I voted Boomslang.

Good call.

Hey Boomslang, why is it so super suspicious when I announce I am going to a warp zone, when if I really wanted to blend in I would just have gone without telling anyone? Hm? Are you going to call out Hedge and INH and BWT and MR for disappearing down warp zones too?

Well I have to vote now, there's a tornado coming. I don't trust llama or MR. Llama's casual defiance of Boomslang's vote makes me worried he may be the Doc, but MR's off the poll, so it's llama for me today.

And did Lizzy vote herself?

Yes it seems Lizzy did vote herself. Unless you are a baddie, not sure how that helps us.

I do wonder about Boomslang, but Llama's announcement about a warp zone feels weird. I really cant decide, but my instincts are saying bad, which makes me wonder about Devin too if thats the case. I hope llama isnt Dr. fetus in fact, but am voting him.

*votes Llama*

It sure is lucky MP gave me those extra lives for inventing a contest and then winning it. Thanks, MP!

thellama73 wrote:It sure is lucky MP gave me those extra lives for inventing a contest and then winning it. Thanks, MP!

As amused as I was, I did no such thing.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:It sure is lucky MP gave me those extra lives for inventing a contest and then winning it. Thanks, MP!

As amused as I was, I did no such thing.

Well now I just feel used.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:It sure is lucky MP gave me those extra lives for inventing a contest and then winning it. Thanks, MP!

As amused as I was, I did no such thing.

Well now I just feel used.

Yeah, that's what your mom said last night.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:It sure is lucky MP gave me those extra lives for inventing a contest and then winning it. Thanks, MP!

As amused as I was, I did no such thing.

Well now I just feel used.

Yeah, that's what your mom said last night.

Don't talk about the Llama mama! (I know her irl and she's the coolest)

Considering Llama has received 14 votes there are only so many options for his role. Don't think he would have survived otherwise. So Dr. Fetus seems to be the leading theory, although I cnat see him skipping sending in a a level. It says Bandage Girl cant be killed, so is that just NK'd?

I missed the vote on account of forgetting about it because of the power going out every few minutes. No idea who I'd've voted for anyway.

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote: Ugh! I've said this over and over again: I think he slipped.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Then he decided to sacrifice Goosey to cover his tracks... or maybe someone is framing him, or... maybe it's just a coincidence.

As soon as I saw the Night 2 kill, my first thought was that CHAD was framing him, tbh.

How can someone who has only recently registered on the board know about Llama and Mongoose, and thus the possibility of Llama being framed when Goosey was NK'd on night 2, unless someone has been telling him about in the chat?

I didn't think any statement could have less than 0% logic to it, but there ya go.

Why would I need to be familiar with the players (I've played with Mongoose at least once before this, iirc) to understand their back-and-forth in THIS thread and the possible circumstances of one baddie role killing one of those players?

And obviously you're not familiar with my playstyle, so why assume anything about me or the way I want to play the game?

Russ did seem to find agreement with you pretty quickly though. Perhaps you are more persuasive than I give you credit for.

Boomslang wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:EBWOP: I can think of 2, but one is a civ, one is bad, and neither would be voting for themselves to achieve anything positive for the civvies.

I see where self-voting would work for Tofu Boy, but why would it help a baddie? Unless you think Vomps is Fetus and is just bouncing off his own immunity, which seems counterproductive.

Wait... What?? How would self-voting work for Tofu Boy? I assume his lives work the same as anyone else's. Plus I would assume he would have the least amount of lives in the game...

He's got "suicidal" in the role description, yo? I think it's safe to assume he's gotta benefit somehow from getting hurt.

I don't know what clinics you're hanging out at, but I don't know anyone who has ever benefited from being suicidal. That's far from a "safe" assumption.

Furthermore, I was referring to Tofu Boy on the civ side, and Little Horn on the baddie side. Look at the role:

• Little Horn – A giant shadow monster from Hell that resembles Meat Boy, this villain grows strength from the failure of others. When the players are in Chapter 4: Hell, Little Horn selects a target every night to attack. Little Horn's speed starts as normal, but grows faster with every player's death; similarly, his attack grows more powerful with every player's fatigue.

1. Another reason why we shouldn't be divvying up votes and continuing to make ourselves weaker over time.

2. Little Horn is a player. His attack grows more powerful with every player's fatigue. Voting for himself would increase his fatigue. Couldn't this make his attack more powerful?

HOST: Can you tell us if Little Horn's fatigue will also contribute to his attack power? Is he considered a "player" for the purposes of this role description?


I wasn't referring to Fetus at all. Personally, I don't think Fetus or Bandage Girl are just hanging back and happy to lose lives just because they can't die in the polls. I've considered the possibility that remaining lives will come into play during the "Final Showdown", and thus, Fetus would probably want to make sure he's stocked up. Surprised nobody else has thought about this.

Also, mayormaynot:



RE: Hedge vs. Llama. I'll be collecting and revising my thoughts on the matter accordingly as tonight passes.

linki @ Hedge: I don't know if he's lost enough lives to jump to the Fetus conclusion just yet.

EBWOP: I missed the quote end on Lizzy's post, zut! *facepalm*

The Russ box is Lizzy, the Lizzy box is me. And then everything below it.

Ugh! >.<

Hedgeowl wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:It sure is lucky MP gave me those extra lives for inventing a contest and then winning it. Thanks, MP!

As amused as I was, I did no such thing.

Well now I just feel used.

Yeah, that's what your mom said last night.

Don't talk about the Llama mama! (I know her irl and she's the coolest)

Considering Llama has received 14 votes there are only so many options for his role. Don't think he would have survived otherwise. So Dr. Fetus seems to be the leading theory, although I cnat see him skipping sending in a a level. It says Bandage Girl cant be killed, so is that just NK'd?

Yeah, 14 votes and surviving starts to look a bit fishy.

Boomslang wrote: Yeah, 14 votes and surviving starts to look a bit fishy.

Answer my questions from earlier, Baddieslang!

I would say, "Evilgoose", but since I went to Oswego, I know that all geese are evil.

Boomslang wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:
Considering Llama has received 14 votes there are only so many options for his role. Don't think he would have survived otherwise. So Dr. Fetus seems to be the leading theory, although I cnat see him skipping sending in a a level. It says Bandage Girl cant be killed, so is that just NK'd?

Yeah, 14 votes and surviving starts to look a bit fishy.

Exactly. Either he is Dr. Fetus or there is some other reason that we aren't aware of.

Not to mention llama's suspicions seem to be all over the map this game. He's referred to several people as baddies with no real rhyme or reason. I know he likes to try wacky/crazy methods of playing, but this one has no logic to it.

Unless I see evidence that says otherwise, I'm assuming there's a very good chance llama is bad.