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Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:35 pm the thing about poes is there are like six names and four are right but there's an outsized effort to choose the wrong two

By who on who?

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm**

and how many enclave are we working with here probablt

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm I looked at your Epi case, it looks like you're making the same (or similar) case on him that he made on Kyle.

That's weird, that wasn't intentional.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:36 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

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Is this a serious vote or am I just trying to tilt Chopchop?

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Guess you’ll have to wait and see.

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Mostly serious.

Why were you voting TSP? I was about to look into it, but you're here, and you just changed it.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm and how many enclave are we working with here probablt

3-4 but I'm betting 4 because of rules

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:39 pm**

weird answer: if there are 3 then alison is always the slaver so the contrapositive holds

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:39 pm weird answer: if there are 3 then alison is always the slaver so the contrapositive holds

heh?

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm**

or martin's a wolf

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm**

Oh, that was a possible answer, not a confident assertion if there is 3.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm**

if there are 3 then either alison is the slaver or martin is a wolf

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:41 pm**

I've spent too much time in logic classes recently

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:42 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:36 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

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Is this a serious vote or am I just trying to tilt Chopchop?

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Guess you’ll have to wait and see.

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Mostly serious.

Why were you voting TSP? I was about to look into it, but you're here, and you just changed it.

Poe/Chop urging/gut.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:43 pm**

Alison still can’t be the slaver because they were still “peeked as the slaver” by a player whose wincon doesn’t include eliminating the Slaver.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:44 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:43 pm Alison still can’t be the slaver because they were still “peeked as the slaver” by a player whose wincon doesn’t include eliminating the Slaver.

And that does include eliminating the town role Alison claimed.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:44 pm**

and i have no clue what part of martin's iso i'm remembering to take the stab I'm currently going for because I just read it and I didn't find what I was looking for

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:45 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:43 pm Alison still can’t be the slaver because they were still “peeked as the slaver” by a player whose wincon doesn’t include eliminating the Slaver.

we don't know any of this

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:46 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:37 pm and how many enclave are we working with here probablt
3-4 but I'm betting 4 because of rules

3-4 Remaining????

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:47 pm**

yeah. could? be 5 i guess but then we're already screwed

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:48 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:43 pm Alison still can’t be the slaver because they were still “peeked as the slaver” by a player whose wincon doesn’t include eliminating the Slaver.
we don't know any of this

That’s what Falcon said.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:50 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm if there are 3 then either alison is the slaver or martin is a wolf

What?

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm**

i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:11 pm**

no im right on martin's alignment i think

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.

No, he’s just predictably lying.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:17 pm**

The choices are not “trust 100%” or “ignore.”

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.
No, he’s just predictably lying.

I don't want to discuss this further because game integrity wrt modkill reasons but I find this perspective to be not really correct. alison had already claimed a role that falcon needed dead, he doesn't need to say that he checked her in that case

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:19 pm**

And also the assumption of rational action with strict obedience to win con here just seems farfetched

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:20 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.
No, he’s just predictably lying.
I don't want to discuss this further because game integrity wrt modkill reasons but I find this perspective to be not really correct. alison had already claimed a role that falcon needed dead, he doesn't need to say that he checked her in that case

well no, he said he knew she was slaver before she claimed eldridge, so he didn't even know necessarily if he needed her dead unless he checked her, found her NR, and somehow knew that, fortuitiously, it was about to become very easy to pin a slaver accusation on her, the very thing which he was already doing without that knowledge

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:21 pm**

all in all I'm choosing to ignore (but if I hypothetically weren't ignoring it I'd say you're wrong)

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:21 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.
No, he’s just predictably lying.
I don't want to discuss this further because game integrity wrt modkill reasons but I find this perspective to be not really correct. alison had already claimed a role that falcon needed dead, he doesn't need to say that he checked her in that case

Okay fair but Alison is still prty townie

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:21 pm**

get this putin pfp outta here

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:21 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:21 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.
No, he’s just predictably lying.
I don't want to discuss this further because game integrity wrt modkill reasons but I find this perspective to be not really correct. alison had already claimed a role that falcon needed dead, he doesn't need to say that he checked her in that case
Okay fair but Alison is still prty townie

do ya see me trying to chop Alison over here

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:22 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:20 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.
No, he’s just predictably lying.
I don't want to discuss this further because game integrity wrt modkill reasons but I find this perspective to be not really correct. alison had already claimed a role that falcon needed dead, he doesn't need to say that he checked her in that case
well no, he said he knew she was slaver before she claimed eldridge, so he didn't even know necessarily if he needed her dead unless he checked her, found her NR, and somehow knew that, fortuitiously, it was about to become very easy to pin a slaver accusation on her, the very thing which he was already doing without that knowledge

he said he knew I was slaver after I claimed elridge, not before

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:22 pm**

No. I’m just really attached to reads I’m sure aren’t multitasking mistakes.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:28 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:20 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:52 pm i mean you're taking the interpretation that we can trust (an interpretation of) what falcon said but that we also can't trust it because lying is in his interest. you can't have both. if he's telling the truth he's telling the truth.
No, he’s just predictably lying.
I don't want to discuss this further because game integrity wrt modkill reasons but I find this perspective to be not really correct. alison had already claimed a role that falcon needed dead, he doesn't need to say that he checked her in that case
well no, he said he knew she was slaver before she claimed eldridge, so he didn't even know necessarily if he needed her dead unless he checked her, found her NR, and somehow knew that, fortuitiously, it was about to become very easy to pin a slaver accusation on her, the very thing which he was already doing without that knowledge
he said he knew I was slaver after I claimed elridge, not before

yeah idk it was a weird progression

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:29 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:22 pm No. I’m just really attached to reads I’m sure aren’t multitasking mistakes.

"alison might be a dangerous 3p, we should chop her" would have been a thing that would be nice to carry from this game into one that has recently concluded

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:32 pm**

3.5 hrs remaining. I don't know when dst is so if anything goes wrong I blame the government

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:33 pm**

wait what the hell was it this morning because if so I now understand why it took me so long to heat up that pizza and why all of a sudden my syndicate clock time is right

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:37 pm**

Yeah, I was confused as hell why I woke up at 8:45 this morning. I never sleep past 8.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:38 pm**

I fixed a clock last night and didn't even stop to think that it might have been wrong for a reason

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:40 pm**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

@Jackofhearts2005 I noticed your vote is still on TSP in the poll.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:41 pm**

Oh wait no it wasn't, I had an old tab open that was wrong.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:47 pm**

How long is actually left in day time

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:48 pm**

Is it 3 or 4 hours

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:48 pm**

About 3h left yes

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:09 pm**

lc has already claimed VT, right.

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:09 pm**

well I trust 1/2 of this wagon

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:09 pm**

so at 4pm got it

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:10 pm**

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine for now idk

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:10 pm**

no urist is probably right

Posted: **Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:10 pm**

[VOTE: dom[\vote]] aubergine

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