The Syndicate

Thanks for playing @orangecrush! I admire your hustle under duress. Hold your head high.

Nice, gj

In a world where we seek tinfoil my eyes are now directly upon Nanook. I am not saying vote for Nanook today, but his standing just got cut in half for me.

Person role-blocked by mafia blocker (iirc?) gets to mech-kill the person role-blocking them.

What a coincidence.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:01 pm In a world where we seek tinfoil my eyes are now directly upon Nanook. I am not saying vote for Nanook today, but his standing just got cut in half for me.

Meh, I still dunked on a scum and a half

I also pushed for a faster shot while orange was the clear consensus target lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:01 pm In a world where we seek tinfoil my eyes are now directly upon Nanook. I am not saying vote for Nanook today, but his standing just got cut in half for me.

Meh, I still dunked on a scum and a half

You hit nutella with a midrange jumper maybe.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:02 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:01 pm In a world where we seek tinfoil my eyes are now directly upon Nanook. I am not saying vote for Nanook today, but his standing just got cut in half for me.

Meh, I still dunked on a scum and a half

You hit nutella with a midrange jumper maybe.

I started the wagon on her

Besides, everyone knows a midrange jumper is just as cool as a dunk if you yell KOBE as loud as you can

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:39 pm

orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:17 pm hello everyone i actualy only fecognise some of you but i am excited to play here

i have not been able to catch upw tith everything but i have started to

so far i have these people town: Act (though am becoming cautious with him the more i read), Jay, Tangrow, Guil, Dana, Alison (lesser town read)

If sloon is correct on act

And alison is town

This is a really really good readslist to come into the game with

Good enough that I don't want to shoot it

absolute sauce

just a weak thing to focus on, and it's a list that doesn't even warrant this perception

Anyways the poe now is act crab gnome in some order

Maybe alison/Martin if we get desperate, I see no need to go there atm

@Garden Gnome I'm going to need a very good reason to even allow you to reach our night phase boo.

Yeah I got that slot wrong, it happens

So after seeing OC's flip and getting excited and confident, my mind went back to Mac's complement of me earlier, which I (perhaps tinfoily) worry is an openwolf pocket attempt.

What are people's thoughts on Mac today?

act, allcrab, and jay are currently voting for orange. for the record.

@Actvscenei @Allcrab who you gonna vote for now?

im gonna stay on made for a bit.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:06 pm So after seeing OC's flip and getting excited and confident, my mind went back to Mac's complement of me earlier, which I (perhaps tinfoily) worry is an openwolf pocket attempt.

What are people's thoughts on Mac today?

He's a fair name to bring up, and perhaps as deserving of a side-eye as Nanook. He was pro-Owner and pro-OC when it counted.

Ty for pulling that list tho given the qualified reads on alison and act id say one is probably mafia

I need to bang my head against the wall until I figure out if act saw the writing on the wall and bussed orange as hard as possible cuz they knew they were going down or if it was a legit read.

Made can also be poe lowkey forgot he was in this game

For me:

Act fits well with both mafia and has been suspicious on her own power.

Gnome fits well with at least OC, and can't be discounted from the other two for lack of evidence.

Made is possible.

Allcrab is possible, but for him we're forced to contend with more significant bussing as a theory. I don't think Seanzie's smoking gun was very smoky, as much as I appreciate his efforts to dig.

both mafia* being nutella and Owner in reference to Act

For it to be me you literally have to think my plan for this game is to only ever bus and never try to lynch any villagers while not putting in extra effort.

I expect two more mafia. OC being mafia puts us in Easy Mode until we're not in it anymore. I am perfectly okay with tinfoil being entertained in controlled quantities. Treat it like a king size candy bar -- enjoy a piece here and there, but don't eat all of it at once and get a tummy ache.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:59 pm That'll work. I was a bit nervy there.

First thought is that Garden Gnome looks like a teammate just from today's shenanigans.

I can see that it would appear that way! I just thought that she was annoying town!!!!

My only hesitation on gnome is that town gnome often has awful looking associations with mafia

But

She also has awful looking associations with mafia lol

Did I hear someone say they want to start working on those sonny/oc interactive reads?

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:10 pm For it to be me you literally have to think my plan for this game is to only ever bus and never try to lynch any villagers while not putting in extra effort.

I think that's valid, and it's enough that there's a part of me willing to shift to lost monkey in your dichotomy* as the better suspect.

*I don't even care about this as a "dichotomy" though, so it's moot. Neither of you would be my first choice.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:11 pm Did I hear someone say they want to start working on those sonny/oc interactive reads?

What else would I do with my third 1,000 burger ever?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:05 pm @Garden Gnome I'm going to need a very good reason to even allow you to reach our night phase boo.

If you ISO orangecrush, you will see that she was scumreading me hard during the entire time that she was in the game. It was more than just distancing. She saw me as an easy misyeet and she was pushing for that to happen. Could you explain why you think that OC and I were scum buddies?

alison
JJJ
bunny
made
sloonei
gnome
tangrowth
guillo
nanook

I don't wanna consider any of these rn what does that leave me with?

act
martin
seanzie
mac

50/50 odds if I'm keeping on my hot streak ain't bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:11 pm Did I hear someone say they want to start working on those sonny/oc interactive reads?

What else would I do with my third 1,000 burger ever?

Good timing;)

I would appreciate if everyone could do me a solid and provide a quick Thing:

A POE pool of three or four players that you believe is most likely to contain two or more living mafia members.

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:05 pm @Garden Gnome I'm going to need a very good reason to even allow you to reach our night phase boo.

If you ISO orangecrush, you will see that she was scumreading me hard during the entire time that she was in the game. It was more than just distancing. She saw me as an easy misyeet and she was pushing for that to happen. Could you explain why you think that OC and I were scum buddies?

Rest assured I will be taking a close look.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:05 pm @Garden Gnome I'm going to need a very good reason to even allow you to reach our night phase boo.

Don't forget about the romance.
You don't know my alignment, and you are suspicious.
That is the way of love. Jealousy always sets in at some point.
You fear that I am some evil black widow spider type.
I am not any of those evil things.
I want you to know that I am not evil.
Let us talk about it privately.

I also suggest we pay more attention to a poisoner hunt as a group. Mafia can remain the priority, but if we wait around too long on the poisoner we are asking for it.

act>martin>mac>seanzie

I think this is where I'm at I think in order of how strongly I feel about it.

[VOTE: Actvscenei] aubergine

I think I don't put a ton of weight on act's posts on orange today because act's track record before this is still pretty abysmal and this game is going not so good for wolves so they gotta start making big plays somewhere.

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:05 pm @Garden Gnome I'm going to need a very good reason to even allow you to reach our night phase boo.

Don't forget about the romance.
You don't know my alignment, and you are suspicious.
That is the way of love. Jealousy always sets in at some point.
You fear that I am some evil black widow spider type.
I am not any of those evil things.
I want you to know that I am not evil.
Let us talk about it privately.

I have a feeling we're going to have a magical night.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:57 pm Poor orangecrush. Her friend Sonny had to bail on a blind date, and asked her to fill in his place. But when she arrived, her date had flaked completely! She was left all alone in the Citrus Tavern, sipping a pomegranate painkiller in the corner...

@orangecrush has died. She was a...

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Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:19 pm Also don't shoot guillo and don't shoot gnome otherwise I don't care who sloonei shoots just shoot someone.

Thank you for the vote of confidence? Why do you townread me though? Why do you townread Garden Gnome? Im specially interested about GG because I genuinely cannot read her, ever. I always just let her be and hope someone else can clear her for me.

It occurs to me that from a wagons perspective, Sonny being mafia might be a tiny tick back in the teammate direction for Made. It depends on when Sonny was around late in Day 1, but he now represents an official nutella voter and not-Made voter who flipped mafia. If Made was a save, they didn't ALL go for it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:21 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:05 pm @Garden Gnome I'm going to need a very good reason to even allow you to reach our night phase boo.

Don't forget about the romance.
You don't know my alignment, and you are suspicious.
That is the way of love. Jealousy always sets in at some point.
You fear that I am some evil black widow spider type.
I am not any of those evil things.
I want you to know that I am not evil.
Let us talk about it privately.

I have a feeling we're going to have a magical night.

My heart is open and ready.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:26 pm

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:19 pm Also don't shoot guillo and don't shoot gnome otherwise I don't care who sloonei shoots just shoot someone.

Thank you for the vote of confidence? Why do you townread me though? Why do you townread Garden Gnome? Im specially interested about GG because I genuinely cannot read her, ever. I always just let her be and hope someone else can clear her for me.

Honestly same and I could be wrong on them but there are a couple of instances in this game where I feel like gnome would have to be playing dumb and be purposefully deceitful in order to be a wolf and I feel like they generally don't go out of their way to plant logic traps and do misdirection as a wolf and rather tend to just brute force cases on village and hope to come off as earnest. That's just what I think anyway maybe I'm wrong and they've evolved.

As for you idk I haven't seen anything wolfy and it's kinda hoping the nutella wagon was mostly pure (I would say entirely but I don't remember if sonny was on nutella I have to go check).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:29 pm It occurs to me that from a wagons perspective, Sonny being mafia might be a tiny tick back in the teammate direction for Made. It depends on when Sonny was around late in Day 1, but he now represents an official nutella voter and not-Made voter who flipped mafia. If Made was a save, they didn't ALL go for it.

Oh well that answers that thanks Jay.

Okay have to reconsider some things then.

@Guillotine you very vocally implored me to shoot you. If you are town, this guarantees that a civilian dies. Why is that ideal?

I thought I would go through and document all the "Interactions Of" that @JaggedJimmyJay has made. I had a bit of trouble finding the last one, so if anyone wants to see this should be a simpler source.

Chronological Order. Anything irrelevant will be crossed out.

Interactions of nutella and Belzy

Interactions of nutella and hawkataine

Interactions of nutella and Long Con

Interactions of nutella and Owner

Interactions of nutella and Sonny

Interactions of nutella and Seanzie https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 71#p796971

Interactions of nutella and bad bunny (ded soon anyways)

Interactions of nutella/Act https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 55#p797155

Interactions of nutella/Garden https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 87#p797287

Interactions of nutella and Kito

Interactions of Mac/Nutella https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 27#p798027

Interactions Of Owner/Act https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 72#p805772


Damm. Nearly half of the first "Interactions Of" that JJJ did are dead lol.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:29 pm It occurs to me that from a wagons perspective, Sonny being mafia might be a tiny tick back in the teammate direction for Made. It depends on when Sonny was around late in Day 1, but he now represents an official nutella voter and not-Made voter who flipped mafia. If Made was a save, they didn't ALL go for it.

Sonny’s nutella vote was surprisingly early if my memory is correct.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:57 pm Poor orangecrush. Her friend Sonny had to bail on a blind date, and asked her to fill in his place. But when she arrived, her date had flaked completely! She was left all alone in the Citrus Tavern, sipping a pomegranate painkiller in the corner...

@orangecrush has died. She was a...

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Beautiful! Good work hommie.