The Syndicate

FZ could still be an unlynchable baddie role, but I'm willing to pursue other options at this point.

Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

I may have a few.

Oh, now I'm really sad Boomslang is gone

*smacks head* I wasn't paying attention to the time while I was catching up so I could vote. I missed it... I am so sorry Alex!

Wait, wait. day?

Linki:seriously folks will you let me freaking post???

No night?

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

I may have a few.

Oh?

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

I have to cogitate.

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Oh man, I wonder if you're gonna tell us who.

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

Yes.

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

No, because that was rude.

thellama73 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

Yes.

We're doomed :P

thellama73 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

Yes.

I'm trying to help you out.

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

No, because that was rude.

Come on, what do you want from me? What would you have said to defend yourself from things you couldn't have defended?

Oh man I can't wait for you to name your suspects Llama. I'm sure you have a good reason for not naming them yet.

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

Yes.

We're doomed :P

Too bad I'm the only one capable of leading lynches, huh? Oh wait, I'm not. It's just that no one else does.

Can't help it if I'm a born leader.

FZ. wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

No, because that was rude.

Come on, what do you want from me? What would you have said to defend yourself from things you couldn't have defended?

I wouldn't have said anything. I would have taken the lynch and worked from there. I'm surprised you fought the way you did.

thellama73 wrote:Too bad I'm the only one capable of leading lynches, huh? Oh wait, I'm not. It's just that no one else does.

You cannot be serious.

The good news is we only need to wait one more day for Mata to be lynchable.

thellama73 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright Epi/Llama lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Any new suspects?

Yes.

Should we treat them with the amount of seriousness as with your previous one?

Yes.

We're doomed :P

Too bad I'm the only one capable of leading lynches, huh? Oh wait, I'm not. It's just that no one else does.

Can't help it if I'm a born leader.

Don't mind me. I've lead the BWT lynch. I'm not better...though I think lynching a Yotsuba is far better than lynching a detective.

There's only one Yotsuba you should be trying to lynch right now.

Who would you guys like me to lead you towards? There are so many good options.

Do we have a blocker or a role that can save at night? I can't read all the roles again

thellama73 wrote:Who would you guys like me to lead you towards? There are so many good options.

Now I know you're just bullshitting.

FZ. wrote:Do we have a blocker or a role that can save at night? I can't read all the roles again

There are a few roleblockers, one of which could possibly be dead.

Turnip Head wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Who would you guys like me to lead you towards? There are so many good options.

Now I know you're just bullshitting.

It takes you until Day 10 to figure that out?

Doesn't make him bad.

Name a suspect or I'm voting you right now Llama. You said you have them. Name them.

Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

Epignosis wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Who would you guys like me to lead you towards? There are so many good options.

Now I know you're just bullshitting.

It takes you until Day 10 to figure that out?

Doesn't make him bad.

That in particular does not, you are correct.

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

I feel like I've missed some new llama revelation.

Turnip Head wrote:Name a suspect or I'm voting you right now Llama. You said you have them. Name them.

I don't serve at your pleasure.

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

My read of Epi is that everything he's done has been driven by a desire not to be lynched or Nked. If he was Higuchi and thought that FZ was Light, it would be the last thing he'd want to do to get her lynched. Because he'd be invincible without his DN.

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

I agree with everything Boo has said here. I was thinking along similar lines. Well done, Boo.

DharmaHelper wrote:

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

My read of Epi is that everything he's done has been driven by a desire not to be lynched or Nked. If he was Higuchi and thought that FZ was Light, it would be the last thing he'd want to do to get her lynched. Because he'd be invincible without his DN.

What about winning though? Does it make sense that Higuchi could be an unkillable role the entire game and win?

I want to bring this to everyone's attention:

Turnip Head wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Speculation requires a statement. I just asked a question. However, there is exactly one person in this game who knew at what time Boomslang would be killed.

Uh... there could be up to 4 people who knew exactly when Boomslang would be killed. Are you saying you know that the current Kira is working alone? Why did you not share this information sooner? Is this a slip-up?

I don't understand what you think FZ would have to gain by saying anything about it if she knew it would happen.

Llama only responded to the second half of my post, bypassing completely my insinuation that he slipped up:

thellama73 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote: I don't understand what you think FZ would have to gain by saying anything about it if she knew it would happen.

I don't know. I just think it's weird.

boo wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

My read of Epi is that everything he's done has been driven by a desire not to be lynched or Nked. If he was Higuchi and thought that FZ was Light, it would be the last thing he'd want to do to get her lynched. Because he'd be invincible without his DN.

What about winning though? Does it make sense that Higuchi could be an unkillable role the entire game and win?

The wording of his role would seem to indicate his DN is tied to his win condition.

This would also explain why FZ protesteth too much. She didn't want to give up her death note.

Turnip Head wrote:I want to bring this to everyone's attention:

Turnip Head wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Speculation requires a statement. I just asked a question. However, there is exactly one person in this game who knew at what time Boomslang would be killed.

Uh... there could be up to 4 people who knew exactly when Boomslang would be killed. Are you saying you know that the current Kira is working alone? Why did you not share this information sooner? Is this a slip-up?

I don't understand what you think FZ would have to gain by saying anything about it if she knew it would happen.

Llama only responded to the second half of my post, bypassing completely my insinuation that he slipped up:

thellama73 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote: I don't understand what you think FZ would have to gain by saying anything about it if she knew it would happen.

I don't know. I just think it's weird.

Which Kira could be working alone at the time of that post though?

If Mata relinquished her Death Note to survive the lynch and it passed to Higuchi or Mikami, Llama could be one of those two Kiras.

thellama73 wrote:

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

I agree with everything Boo has said here. I was thinking along similar lines. Well done, Boo.

You are so full of it

Llama said he had new suspects in light of the FZ lynch. He refuses to name them. I call BS.

Turnip Head, I was obviously referring to the person who sent in the kill, the current Kira. I have no information on who that person may or may not have BTSC with. It was not a slip. Go nettle someone else, Shinigami, it grows tiresome.

linki: call it all you want. See who listens. I don't take my orders from you.

thellama73 wrote:Turnip Head, I was obviously referring to the person who sent in the kill, the current Kira. I have no information on who that person may or may not have BTSC with. It was not a slip. Go nettle someone else, Shinigami, it grows tiresome.

linki: call it all you want. See who listens. I don't take my orders from you.

I can tell you exactly which Kiras have BTSC right now and who else is in that BTSC crew.

boo wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

boo wrote:Alright, does this mean what I think it means?

FZ seems to have seen that coming. She's Light, gave up the note to Higuchi so she wouldn't be lynched, but now Higuchi can be.

Now, if you're anything like me, Epi has been the obvious Higuchi for most of the game, and he has tried to take cover behind making it look like he's just a regular Yotsuba. I do not believe he's a regular Yotsuba (and even if he is, for me, that's not a loss, which I hope I've made clear by this point).

So... Epi already thought FZ was probably Light, and was pushing for her lynch to make her give up the note, so that he could get it?

Are there any other good Higuchi candidates? Anyone who has previously survived an attempt (that isn't FZ, if we're working under the assumption she's Light, which I can accept and work into other things I believe) is a candidate, but I don't think it is any of them.

My read of Epi is that everything he's done has been driven by a desire not to be lynched or Nked. If he was Higuchi and thought that FZ was Light, it would be the last thing he'd want to do to get her lynched. Because he'd be invincible without his DN.

What about winning though? Does it make sense that Higuchi could be an unkillable role the entire game and win?

So when I said it before, you had nothing to say, but now you've decided to suggest this option? And if he's Higuchi, I don't think he can even know who Light is. In any case, I'm not Light. But you, are just all over the place. Name one person since the game has started, that you called baddie and actually turned out to be one. I mean a Kira, not Yotsuba

thellama73 wrote:Turnip Head, I was obviously referring to the person who sent in the kill, the current Kira. I have no information on who that person may or may not have BTSC with. It was not a slip. Go nettle someone else, Shinigami, it grows tiresome.

linki: call it all you want. See who listens. I don't take my orders from you.

If you were obviously referring to that, then you should have said so at the time that I questioned you on it. You didn't want to do so then, for some reason. You specifically only replied to the second part of my post addressed to you.

DharmaHelper wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Turnip Head, I was obviously referring to the person who sent in the kill, the current Kira. I have no information on who that person may or may not have BTSC with. It was not a slip. Go nettle someone else, Shinigami, it grows tiresome.

linki: call it all you want. See who listens. I don't take my orders from you.

I can tell you exactly which Kiras have BTSC right now and who else is in that BTSC crew.

That's fine.

This game FINALLY got interesting.