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Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:24 pm**

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:25 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:24 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:19 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:15 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:14 pm

even tho MR visited me and i poisoned boknows and claimed it instead of poisoning scotty and staying quiet about it?
Bo could be 3p
bo was also the chop for today if it wasnt for me, even if he's 3p it's not like i can mischop scotty, so poisoning scotty and chopping bo is a trillion times better. but anyhow
you've seemed to put a lot of thought into this
nah it came to me instantly. the numbers just fly in front of my eyes and i can see em
stop being smart, it makes you look suspcious
awwwwh u kind cutiepie always looking to compliment other people u ADORABLEEEEEEEEEE ANGELLLLLLLLLLLL COME HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HUGGIE WUGGIE HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGG SMOL MADIE SOFTTTTTTTTT SMOLLLLLLLL SMOLLLLLLLL HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG KISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

huggies u 2 pal, I still think ur scum tho <3

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm**

I think the intuition that scum has been shielding scum here hard is still the key insight. If we find people shielding or deflecting MR, we find scum imo

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm**

And y’all should get your votes off rondo. Mechanically it makes no sense to flip rondo before Wilgy.

Oh and to answer your question, made, falcon was someone that I can see being aligned with MR, despite what the consensus town core has said

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:25 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:24 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:19 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:15 pm
Bo could be 3p
bo was also the chop for today if it wasnt for me, even if he's 3p it's not like i can mischop scotty, so poisoning scotty and chopping bo is a trillion times better. but anyhow
you've seemed to put a lot of thought into this
nah it came to me instantly. the numbers just fly in front of my eyes and i can see em
stop being smart, it makes you look suspcious
awwwwh u kind cutiepie always looking to compliment other people u ADORABLEEEEEEEEEE ANGELLLLLLLLLLLL COME HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HUGGIE WUGGIE HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGG SMOL MADIE SOFTTTTTTTTT SMOLLLLLLLL SMOLLLLLLLL HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG KISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
huggies u 2 pal, I still think ur scum tho <3

thats okiiii madieeeee we will still winnnnnnn

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:27 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm I think the intuition that scum has been shielding scum here hard is still the key insight

wilgy, when accused of mechanically being scum by ender who stopped the kill only if wilgy is scum:

"i am a cop and rondo and epi are town"

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:27 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm And y’all should get your votes off rondo. Mechanically it makes no sense to flip rondo before Wilgy.

Oh and to answer your question, made, falcon was someone that I can see being aligned with MR, despite what the consensus town core has said

word
[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:28 pm**

also i think that a plain cop doesnt fit with the rest of the roles. every role is spicy af and has a lot of shit in it. regular cop feels out of place just like radiohead mafia (a role madness game where jpic was scum and just claimed "im a cop lol" when accused of mech knowledge that he's scum"

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:28 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:27 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm I think the intuition that scum has been shielding scum here hard is still the key insight
wilgy, when accused of mechanically being scum by ender who stopped the kill only if wilgy is scum:

"i am a cop and rondo and epi are town"

But this was also disproven when Urist's protection turned out to not fail.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:29 pm**

Cheeky angle Tutuu

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:30 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:28 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:27 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm I think the intuition that scum has been shielding scum here hard is still the key insight
wilgy, when accused of mechanically being scum by ender who stopped the kill only if wilgy is scum:

"i am a cop and rondo and epi are town"
But this was also disproven when Urist's protection turned out to not fail.

oh ye im not saying the red peek is 100% accurate

but at the time we thought that it was, and u claimed in reponse

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:32 pm**

So regarding my yeet. I see the value in it, but I think it's too early. Especially when our PoE is still as wide as it is.

Thinking that Falcon, Nook, Ruri and Tutuu who are still on my PoE can be removed or checked first.

Since I've already checked Ruri and it failed, 1 or 2 more turns of me checking and us yeeting can clear the PoE.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:34 pm**

@sig @TonyStarkPrime u two need to get ur asses here this day phase and find scum i aint feeling too optimistic about town winning rn

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:42 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:32 pm So regarding my yeet. I see the value in it, but I think it's too early. Especially when our PoE is still as wide as it is.

Thinking that Falcon, Nook, Ruri and Tutuu who are still on my PoE can be removed or checked first.

Since I've already checked Ruri and it failed, 1 or 2 more turns of me checking and us yeeting can clear the PoE.

Meh.

I think confirming questionable players like rondo and Epi are significantly helpful

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:42 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:34 pm @sig @TonyStarkPrime u two need to get ur asses here this day phase and find scum i aint feeling too optimistic about town winning rn

Agreed

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

man i just wanna throw it out there coz it been bothering me - if bo flips town i aint ever playing with the dude again

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:55 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:48 pm tbh idec if i die.
Tbvf, we do care about your death. If you are antitown we care and it makes us happy and win the game, if you are town it makes sad and we care and it might cost us the game.

A little input from you would help us decide what to do.

I don't wanna sound rude btw.
I get it from everyone else's PoV but I don't care

if he's scum this is funny af but if he's town its just so disrespectful to join a game to troll ur team like this for no reason (assuming he isn't a town that gets some helpful power if he dies)

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

Tutuu, getting some vibes that you are the poisoner.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:55 pm Tutuu, getting some vibes that you are the poisoner.

bro i said i poisoned bo looool

cmon fam read mah posts ;-;

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:57 pm**

Nah dood I'm vibing.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:03 pm**

I am once again asking you to vote epi

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:05 pm**

also town has no more protectives left

even if wilgy is town he isn't living to get 1 more peek

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm**

Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm**

(It's mech reasons I don't want to get into)

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:08 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it

did u see the wilgy result? even if u convinced epi maf why not chop wilgy first?

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:23 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it
did u see the wilgy result? even if u convinced epi maf why not chop wilgy first?

I have not

I assume from context that wilgy checked him green

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:17 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it

What is a difference check?

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:21 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it
What is a difference check?

We’re different alignments.

Is there any chance we’re in lylo here @Scotty

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:35 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it
What is a difference check?

One is one alignment

The other is the opposite alignment

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:40 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:21 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it
What is a difference check?
We’re different alignments.

Is there any chance we’re in lylo here @Scotty

A chance to be in Lylo in a closed role madness game without flips or even guessable knowledge of team makeup and a lack of a through-line of mafia partners?

nah

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:46 pm**

What’s bothering me about this game is the unverifiable claims, and my being in the dark in everything. I’m- for all intents and purposes- vanilla this game, and when someone offers new info, I feel like the early native Americans being promised blankets and land by early English settlers, and instead I receive disease and lose my home.

Im still gonna do what I can to solve, but damn do I feel like a 3 legged dog

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:17 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:06 pm Theres almost certainly a difference check between epi and made btw

I'm not explaining why rn but you should all sheep it
What is a difference check?
One is one alignment

The other is the opposite alignment

Made it is then.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:27 pm**

even better to chop wilgy

scenario 1: he's mafia. good

scenario 2: he's town. we get THREE peeks

rondo and epi town, made mafia

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:39 pm**

Wait, are we actually voting made here?

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:41 pm**

I feel like widening the poe is never the right call here. I see Nanook doing that as town so I’m behind a Wilgy chop today. The nice thing about it is Tutuu is right, we can not worry about her for a day or 2

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:42 pm**

@falcon45ca wilgy or Tutuu?

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:42 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:27 pm even better to chop wilgy

scenario 1: he's mafia. good

scenario 2: he's town. we get THREE peeks

rondo and epi town, made mafia

And then what happens? Epi dies tonight, Made yeeted tomorrow, and Rondo dies the next night? Yeeting me now effectively undoes my investigations.

There's a bigger POE and yeeting me doesn't trim it down right now.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:43 pm**

Wait. How exactly did we chop MR? Who gets the most town credit for that? Let’s start there.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:44 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:41 pm I feel like widening the poe is never the right call here. I see Nanook doing that as town so I’m behind a Wilgy chop today. The nice thing about it is Tutuu is right, we can not worry about her for a day or 2

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Made, your input should be alot simpler here. "Because I'm not scum, Epi is and therefore so is Wilgy." The 50/50 was forced yet you latch onto less relevant information.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:47 pm**

Exception Nook is full of shit and a team of Nook and 2 more results in 2 kills and 2 poisons and 2 misyeets putting scum to town at 3/4 LYLO.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:48 pm**

Hold on, so if nook says Epi/made differ and Epi town then nook is lying. If he’s not lying then it’s just Epi here.

If nook is lying as scum he doesn’t care about being wrong which would imply lylo or some other game ending sequence could be incoming…

If we don’t think that’s likely, then we lynch Epi, if we do think that’s likely we chop nook.

Does this at all have implications on 112/Rondo/tsp stuff or any of Wilgy’s clears?

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:49 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:44 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:41 pm I feel like widening the poe is never the right call here. I see Nanook doing that as town so I’m behind a Wilgy chop today. The nice thing about it is Tutuu is right, we can not worry about her for a day or 2

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Made, your input should be alot simpler here. "Because I'm not scum, Epi is and therefore so is Wilgy." The 50/50 was forced yet you latch onto less relevant information.

I am a simple man, i see simplicity, i over complicate it.

See my next post, it’s not simple

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:49 pm**

We have now come to the same conclusion.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:51 pm**

Do I trust Nook or Made more? That is the real ravioli.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:52 pm**

tutuu play with me again please

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:53 pm**

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

time for him to say adios

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:53 pm**

The real ravioli is quadruple checking we’re not just sitting on a solved game on mechs. Have like 3 groups of players clearing each other, surely they feed into each other in a way that proves someone is lying

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:55 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:53 pm The real ravioli is quadruple checking we’re not just sitting on a solved game on mechs. Have like 3 groups of players clearing each other, surely they feed into each other in a way that proves someone is lying

I was hoping to eventually get around to the Sig <3 TSP claims once the POE was cleared up abit more.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:58 pm**

im looking at the vote count and im like huh

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm**

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

For now.

Posted: **Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm**

listen

if wolves knew wilgy was town, they knew they couldnt roleblock him last night (which we saw they didnt due to him claiming a peek)

and they knew they coudlnt kill him (coz urist was a doctor and they killed urist)

despite this, they poisoned (a kill that overrides protection) ENDER instead of WILGY earlier

ENDER was also in wilgy's ass and he claimed a pseudo red peek on wilgy

chop wilgy

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