The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm ENDER was also in wilgy's ass

ON

im sorry

i and o are right next to each other

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm listen

if wolves knew wilgy was town, they knew they couldnt roleblock him last night (which we saw they didnt due to him claiming a peek)

and they knew they coudlnt kill him (coz urist was a doctor and they killed urist)

despite this, they poisoned (a kill that overrides protection) ENDER instead of WILGY earlier

ENDER was also in wilgy's ass and he claimed a pseudo red peek on wilgy

chop wilgy

Lol, wolf angry because I figured it out?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm ENDER was also in wilgy's ass

ON

im sorry

i and o are right next to each other

:Shrug: just don't tell Wilgette

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm listen

if wolves knew wilgy was town, they knew they couldnt roleblock him last night (which we saw they didnt due to him claiming a peek)

and they knew they coudlnt kill him (coz urist was a doctor and they killed urist)

despite this, they poisoned (a kill that overrides protection) ENDER instead of WILGY earlier

ENDER was also in wilgy's ass and he claimed a pseudo red peek on wilgy

chop wilgy

Lol, wolf angry because I figured it out?

figured out what u just switched ur vote from made to nanook lmao

Also Ender was hard town due to the MR case and yeet. Not something I could claim to have yet.

wildy wolf?

Here's the problem Tutuu, you come at me with a scenario proven false here:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:28 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:27 pm

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:26 pm I think the intuition that scum has been shielding scum here hard is still the key insight

wilgy, when accused of mechanically being scum by ender who stopped the kill only if wilgy is scum:

"i am a cop and rondo and epi are town"

But this was also disproven when Urist's protection turned out to not fail.

And now you come at me because of this Ender case where ender was killed while being townlock. This is silly.

I would understand if my yeet was for data and a condensed POE, but this is not what this is.

I’m going to be second guessing myself on everyone in this game. Those I read as town are mostly only so because of one or two small details. Because that’s the best I have to go on.

So Made: he has had 2 almost-lynches. Comes out with this naive story about not knowing what a stump is or what his role does.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:33 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:22 pm i still don't understand why made's retroactive claim makes him more likely to be town and at this point i'm too afraid to ask

The bottom line is that tree stump doesn't sound likely to be a scum role (what use would a scum who can talk after death be? Nobody's going to listen to them) and I think Made is genuinely a tree stump for two reasons:

1) He mixed up tree stump and immortality, I think if he was given tree stump as a fakeclaim he'd claim it correctly the first time rather than claiming "I'm immortal".

2) He has some pretty extensive softing of his role, including going to the extent of finding a Marvel character that had a similar ability to post as a reaction gif. This was done all the way from Day 1. I don't think that he'd go to such extent to establish a fake softclaim as scum.

I tend to agree with this assessment and it’s this detail that makes me want to townread Made regardless of what he says or does.

Epi is only town because of the implication that the day vig is a town role. One would think that *more* likely if only because of the assumption of a mafia poisoner AND a day vig, without us seeing inclination of another town killing ability. Could be that our town vig has died already, who the duck knows.
The other thing is Epi’s casing of MR early on D2, and he continued that thread into day 3. If that’s a teammate distance, it’s a risky one. Unless he’s just doing it for towncred. He hasn’t made any other compelling cases, so this is his legacy. Not out of his scum range for sure, but it is a slight hang up for me overtly calling him scum.


Tutuu has been a strong presence, pushing many different names at different times. Her confidence in the lynch being a slam dunk between Koba and Syn isn’t a great look unless Bo is bad. Though the vote didn’t end there, so meh.
The only thing holding me back from outright scumreading her is that MR visited her N1. Unless there are two factions, the first thing a partner does is target his partner? I don’t know what role that would be, but probability says that type of role isn’t in play. But it’s not ironclad

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:05 pm also town has no more protectives left

even if wilgy is town he isn't living to get 1 more peek

So this, if you believe this to be true, why waste the yeet on me? Unless you think this is LYLO. I'm not surviving until then anyhow.

I see a wily wilgy throwing shit around at tutuu because of this information.

It is the right thing to clear up 3 town at this point by chopping wilgy, and if you can’t see that logic then you’re actively feeding conspiracy

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:17 pm I see a wily wilgy throwing shit around at tutuu because of this information.

It is the right thing to clear up 3 town at this point by chopping wilgy, and if you can’t see that logic then you’re actively feeding conspiracy

It only clears up two ATM. I think it's just too early. Rondo and Epi would die before we can thin the greater POE.

the flawed perspective of killing Epi today:

If nook is correct and made is opposite Epi, and Wilgy claims Epi is town, we run into a conundrum.

If Epi is town, all we know is that Wilgy called him town. This doesn’t prove wilgy’s alignment.
Also, this doesn’t prove made is actually opposite of made, because we still don’t know if nook is just mafia spreading misinformation. Then we’re down a town without knowing if rondo and made are cleartown

Like I said I 100% agree with proving my data, I just don't think now is correct. It's not a matter of if we flip me, bit when.

Tutuu's angles and focus on the "if" feels wrong, plus the person of using a town core kill as proof is disconcerting.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:21 pm the flawed perspective of killing Epi today:

If nook is correct and made is opposite Epi, and Wilgy claims Epi is town, we run into a conundrum.

If Epi is town, all we know is that Wilgy called him town. This doesn’t prove wilgy’s alignment.
Also, this doesn’t prove made is actually opposite of made, because we still don’t know if nook is just mafia spreading misinformation. Then we’re down a town without knowing if rondo and made are cleartown

Agreed. I believe our options are me, Nook or Made.

If it’s Wilgy the game is easy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:26 pm Like I said I 100% agree with proving my data, I just don't think now is correct. It's not a matter of if we flip me, bit when.

Tutuu's angles and focus on the "if" feels wrong, plus the person of using a town core kill as proof is disconcerting.

*Perspective, not person.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:26 pm Like I said I 100% agree with proving my data, I just don't think now is correct. It's not a matter of if we flip me, bit when.

Tutuu's angles and focus on the "if" feels wrong, plus the person of using a town core kill as proof is disconcerting.

If we don’t flip you, and you don’t get NK’d tomorrow, is that a better time?

Made wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:27 pm If it’s Wilgy the game is easy

If it’s tutuu, the game is on hard mode

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:06 pmwildy wolf?

ngl you aren’t helping.

Tutuu is right my man- if you’re town, you’re playing as a liability.

I mean, you do you, and I’d prefer to have your slot not modkilled if you’re town, so thanks for subbing in…but just a little involvement here would be ideal

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm ENDER was also in wilgy's ass

ON

im sorry

i and o are right next to each other

I don't think I'd ever claim there's a difference check between a green checked player and a guy claiming stump if I were mafia faking it lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:02 pm I don't think I'd ever claim there's a difference check between a green checked player and a guy claiming stump if I were mafia faking it lol

With how many unverifiable claims there are running around with their pants off, I wouldn’t put anything past anyone

I'm on page 138. I don't believe tutuu believes a sonofabitching thing tutuu has posted.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:47 pm but maybe the simpler world is just epi

because the poison came from 112 giving it to people

mafia doesnt have a poisoner i believe

sooooooo

yea we should chop epi i think

if bo and epi are both town we only lose to a team thats like ... tsp + sig + poison or some weird shit

but if so props to them for being ballsy with claims and stuff. and like what can we do, i think we'd have put valiant effort

but yea i thhink the simplest thing is to chop epi and see bo's flip and hope we still in this

What makes it simpler?

And why is simpler correct?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:02 pm I don't think I'd ever claim there's a difference check between a green checked player and a guy claiming stump if I were mafia faking it lol

With how many unverifiable claims there are running around with their pants off, I wouldn’t put anything past anyone

I mean, im pretty good at fake claiming lol

I feel like everyone is just actively avoiding reading tutuu as town except for me, and that either means you’re all wrong or I’m being pocketed

Also…why is falcon town again?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:02 pm I don't think I'd ever claim there's a difference check between a green checked player and a guy claiming stump if I were mafia faking it lol

With how many unverifiable claims there are running around with their pants off, I wouldn’t put anything past anyone

I mean, im pretty good at fake claiming lol

You kiss your mother with that fake claim?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:06 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:02 pm I don't think I'd ever claim there's a difference check between a green checked player and a guy claiming stump if I were mafia faking it lol

With how many unverifiable claims there are running around with their pants off, I wouldn’t put anything past anyone

I mean, im pretty good at fake claiming lol

You kiss your mother with that fake claim?

Ah I futzed up that joke. It’s a verb

Should be “you fake claim your mother with that mouth”

also if Wilgy flips green,

I’d be more inclined to turbo Made

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:26 pm Like I said I 100% agree with proving my data, I just don't think now is correct. It's not a matter of if we flip me, bit when.

Tutuu's angles and focus on the "if" feels wrong, plus the person of using a town core kill as proof is disconcerting.

If we don’t flip you, and you don’t get NK’d tomorrow, is that a better time?

Yes. The is still a chance of a successful check tomorrow, putting at 3 confirm. That would at least provide 1 confirm which in the next few days following epi and Rondo death.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:06 pm i guess epi + wilgy + rondo + boknows team could make sense. nothing too crazy, i can believe it

Why "could" it make sense?

What leads to believe I am teammates with Wilgy and Rondo and BoKnows?

If Wilgy flips red, we flip rondo right after.

Either way, we clear people, catch a mafia and maybe then some

Better odds than choking on a rat tail at a Caesar’s pizza. And THEMS GOOD ODDS

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:05 pm I feel like everyone is just actively avoiding reading tutuu as town except for me, and that either means you’re all wrong or I’m being pocketed

At least If it's Made, it's not Tutuu I think.

I can see Nook Tutuu team.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:08 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:26 pm Like I said I 100% agree with proving my data, I just don't think now is correct. It's not a matter of if we flip me, bit when.

Tutuu's angles and focus on the "if" feels wrong, plus the person of using a town core kill as proof is disconcerting.

If we don’t flip you, and you don’t get NK’d tomorrow, is that a better time?

Yes. The is still a chance of a successful check tomorrow, putting at 3 confirm. That would at least provide 1 confirm which in the next few days following epi and Rondo death.

Who knows, maybe there won’t be a tomorrow?

If we can positively identify mafia early by flipping you now, we’ll have a head start in the night

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm ENDER was also in wilgy's ass

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:06 pm Also Ender was hard

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:03 pm I'm on page 138. I don't believe tutuu believes a sonofabitching thing tutuu has posted.

i posted many things so u will have to point to which one

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:05 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:47 pm but maybe the simpler world is just epi

because the poison came from 112 giving it to people

mafia doesnt have a poisoner i believe

sooooooo

yea we should chop epi i think

if bo and epi are both town we only lose to a team thats like ... tsp + sig + poison or some weird shit

but if so props to them for being ballsy with claims and stuff. and like what can we do, i think we'd have put valiant effort

but yea i thhink the simplest thing is to chop epi and see bo's flip and hope we still in this

What makes it simpler?

And why is simpler correct?

its simpler because u have no mech clearing u and tsp and sig are claiming masons...

so chopping into sig/tsp feels more complicated to do than chopping epi

ur just latching onto one single phase and ignore everything else lol?

what u call this - strawman?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:05 pm Also…why is falcon town again?

i dunno man. thats the one thing i wanna defy sheeping other ppl. but 3 people that i think are town all say he's town. so i dunno

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:08 pm also if Wilgy flips green,

I’d be more inclined to turbo Made

yea if wilgy flips town and this isnt LyLo we are in a great position

2 green checks on epi and rondo and a red peek on made

thats 4 people from the PoE solved all with a single chop

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:21 pm the flawed perspective of killing Epi today:

If nook is correct and made is opposite Epi, and Wilgy claims Epi is town, we run into a conundrum.

If Epi is town, all we know is that Wilgy called him town. This doesn’t prove wilgy’s alignment.
Also, this doesn’t prove made is actually opposite of made, because we still don’t know if nook is just mafia spreading misinformation. Then we’re down a town without knowing if rondo and made are cleartown

What are the exact claims made about me, and could you link them please?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:06 pm i guess epi + wilgy + rondo + boknows team could make sense. nothing too crazy, i can believe it

Why "could" it make sense?

What leads to believe I am teammates with Wilgy and Rondo and BoKnows?

because i think that if wilgy is mafia he claimed green on both of his partners

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:02 pm ENDER was also in wilgy's ass

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:06 pm Also Ender was hard

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:25 pm I'm a JOAT, the role I was born to play it seems.

Role cop – as it sounds
Role stopper – blocks the roles targeting my choice (not their own role usage)
Role watcher – observes what roles (not players or actions) visit my target
Role enforcer – strongmans my target’s own role action

I can choose one to use 2x.

I rolecopped tutuu N1 and hinted as much.
I tried to use my rolecop again on 112 and was unsuccessful.



Eating dinner. See you in DVC I guess.

Yooooooo if MR was actually telling even a semblance of truth with his role….he totally was more useful targeting his teammates.












[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

brah

If tutuu is mafia, it fits with my theory from d2 that the thread was being bombarded with misinformation. Tutuu has been a wealth of misinformation that I kept telling myself was just town grasping at straws like me.

But I’m not so sure.

Tutuu was bound to be a popular target of any and all role powers N1 after her D1 play.

I believe it would be an extremely powerful play to have Master radishes peep Tutuu and see what roles targeted her N1. You’d gain a ton of info on the mech of the game that way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:19 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:21 pm the flawed perspective of killing Epi today:

If nook is correct and made is opposite Epi, and Wilgy claims Epi is town, we run into a conundrum.

If Epi is town, all we know is that Wilgy called him town. This doesn’t prove wilgy’s alignment.
Also, this doesn’t prove made is actually opposite of made, because we still don’t know if nook is just mafia spreading misinformation. Then we’re down a town without knowing if rondo and made are cleartown

What are the exact claims made about me, and could you link them please?

Anybody can answer this.

I'd appreciate it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:25 pm If tutuu is mafia, it fits with my theory from d2 that the thread was being bombarded with misinformation. Tutuu has been a wealth of misinformation that I kept telling myself was just town grasping at straws like me.

But I’m not so sure.

Tutuu was bound to be a popular target of any and all role powers N1 after her D1 play.

I believe it would be an extremely powerful play to have Master radishes peep Tutuu and see what roles targeted her N1. You’d gain a ton of info on the mech of the game that way.

what misinformation...

MR’s honesty may have sunk tutuu’s ship.

As I said tutuu, the only thing holding me back from casing you as scum was that visit. And I somehow missed this claim before

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:05 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:00 pm Urist has died.

Spoiler: show

They were Shani: Red-Headed Medic who Participated in the Battle of Brenna

BoKnows has been poisoned.

It is now Day 5. Day 5 will end at 9PM BST, 9th of September

tha fuck’s this

Urist? I mean, I townread him, but that’s an…odd NK

and bo being poisoned…is also…questionable.

he was the doc and he could stop kills and confims townies so why not? it was the kill that made sense to me. i was gonna say it probably means they have no roleblocker but thats wrong - they could

also ... i ... guess i poisoned boknows?

i googled 112's role and opened the wiki. contol + f'd "wish" and it shows up that the character is evil and can grant wises. so that looks to be the djinn that gave me the wish

on day 3 i quoted a 112 post and said i wish for a day vig

yesterday on d4 i was offered my second wish, between kill and roleblock. that confirmed my suspicion that the role is 3p. i didnt say it out loud coz i didnt want mafia to RB me

i picked kill and i killed boknows last night. my kill was successful

so looks like the kill is a poison....

and mafia doesnt have a poisoner? and 112 fulfilled someone else's wish? that is assuming the wishes work by the recipient having to say "I WISH FOR SOMETHING" itt

if so, i think rondo might be mafia. he made a wish on day 3. on n3 ender was poisoned. wait actually nvm, it cant be rondo. coz the wishes dont come immediately the following night, but the night after that

kay well anyway

its also possible that 112 role worked in like a weird af way like ... fulfill a mafia wish then a townie? i have no fucking clue

but yeah.. let me think

I didnt quote 112 I just did a naked wish on its own. I received nothing. Ender had town read me and was one of the few holding back the hoards from my door, why would I kill him?