The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:38 pm**

zeek wrote:Battle of the Jacks is coming, Chris.

Fight! Fight! Fight!

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:40 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.
If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?
If Dom ain't, will you vote for yourself?
No, that makes no sense. I'm not making the case he's Strax or not Strax, it's not my name on the line here.
If I'm right, will you vote how I want you to vote from here on out?

Of course not. So why ask what you asked?

Don't be so hasty, if he's The Master then I'll be a lot more likely to follow your vote and your logic. Part of my worry was that you were The Master, and if Dom is The Master... looks good for you!

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:41 pm**

Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.

So if I survive this lynch, everyone is going to think you're the Master. It'll pretty much be a done deal.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:42 pm**

Dom wrote:But I'm not allowed to talk about why I will survive this lynch. There is more to this game than meets the eye.

Or you're the Master, because you're the Master. You're the Master, so you survive masterfully.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:43 pm**

LC, I was wrong. If the head is in the DF voters, DF is dead, and the head is narrowed.

But it's Snow. Don't worry about that anymore my friend.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:44 pm**

zeek wrote:
Dom wrote:But I'm not allowed to talk about why I will survive this lynch. There is more to this game than meets the eye.
Or you're the Master, because you're the Master. You're the Master, so you survive masterfully.

I gotta say, and it'll be a hard sell, but there is one secret role left that we know nothing about.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:45 pm**

I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:46 pm**

Chris wrote:I gotta say, and it'll be a hard sell, but there is one secret role left that we know nothing about.

Are you joking?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:47 pm**

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Who Shall Quench Your Hosts' Thirst for Blood?

Poll ended at Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:29 pm

Chris
0
No votes

DFaraday
6
Dom (4), nijuukyugou (13), Chris (14), keys56000000000 (15), S~V~S (16), Long Con (20)
30%

Dom
7
Epignosis (7), zeek (9), Snow Dog (10), juliets (11), DFaraday (17), Gotrees (18), Hedgeowl (19)
35%

Epignosis 2.0
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Gotrees
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Hedgeowl
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Juliets 2.0
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Keys56000000000
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Long Con 2.0
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MovingPictures07
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Ninjablooper
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MovingPictures07 (6)
5%

Snow Dog 2.0
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SVS
0
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Zeek
0
No votes

The Site Owner! Although that would taste a bit wooly... (Host/Non/Dead)
6
birdwithteeth11 (1), Metalmarsh89 (2), Enrique (3), Roxy (5), bea (8), Bass_the_Clever (12)

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:48 pm**

There isn't a secret role we don't know anything about?

I did say it would be tough for Dom to sell. I'm not saying he's it... but that last secret role does exist.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:50 pm**

On the contrary, Dom, I thought that this lynch in particular was an invigorating and interesting one, very much what I consider to be good Mafia. I wanted to congratulate everyone on keeping this game very interesting, even if Dom ends up being the White Jacob secret role and it's a big mistake.

One thing, though... Dom's lynch survival is suspicious because there's nothing in the (unclaimed) Civvie roles that explain it. There is also nothing I can see in the Civvie roles that would explain Zeek's 100% knowledge that Dom is The Master. So... that's sort of suspicious for the same reason?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:50 pm**

Chris wrote:There isn't a secret role we don't know anything about?

I did say it would be tough for Dom to sell. I'm not saying he's it... but that last secret role does exist.

I thought two secret roles still exist. Oh, wait, The Recruiter is one. Right.

*posts anyway*

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:51 pm**

Chris wrote:There isn't a secret role we don't know anything about?

I did say it would be tough for Dom to sell. I'm not saying he's it... but that last secret role does exist.

I'm inclined to believe MP's thoughts from yesterday on that. Keys seems pretty upset fingersplints has been passed over on the replacement list. I bet she can't replace in because she was that secret role.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:52 pm**

Dom wrote:I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.

I do think this game really got out of hand in a few different ways, and I'm as much to blame as anyone. I'm actually going to feel kind of bad if it turns out you are the Master at this point because of the lack of deductive reasoning any of us (except Zeek) used to get there.

EBWOP: Wow, LC, you're saying pretty much the exact opposite of what I said.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:53 pm**

LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?

Also, LC, do you like the idea of the "Jacob" vs "MIB" theory with 2 of the secret roles?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:54 pm**

DFaraday wrote:
Dom wrote:I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.
I do think this game really got out of hand in a few different ways, and I'm as much to blame as anyone. I'm actually going to feel kind of bad if it turns out you are the Master at this point because of the lack of deductive reasoning any of us (except Zeek) used to get there.

EBWOP: Wow, LC, you're saying pretty much the exact opposite of what I said.

I think there's nothing wrong with a healthy amount of gut being involved in Mafia decisions. Reasoning is also important of course. You need both for Good Mafia. I really just said it was a good lynch because I found it really interesting, and my suspicions changed over the course of it based on what I read, and there were some funny jokes in there too... I had fun!

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:56 pm**

Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?

Except I've been dead half the game.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:57 pm**

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?
Except I've been dead half the game.

And?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:57 pm**

Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?

He tried and failed to recruit Dom. I find that to be an idea worth thinking about.

Let me know if I'm mistaken, but did we clear Zeek of being a Dalek (all dead) or a Cyberman (they killed him)? So, The Recruiter would be a fine possibility for him. Can you imagine if we rezzed The Recruiter?! Wow. Who was responsible for that rez?

Also, LC, do you like the idea of the "Jacob" vs "MIB" theory with 2 of the secret roles?

Nope... I don't think that's how it is. I see it as The Recruiter and The Neutral LMS With Some Power We Don't Know. Or Evil instead of Neutral, but they ain't killing, so

.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:58 pm**

A "dead half the game" recruiter who also failed on The Master would be... very nice for the Civvies.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:58 pm**

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?
Except I've been dead half the game.

Is that why there's been a dip in recruits??

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:58 pm**

Anyone up for some Roxy-Zeek interaction checking?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:59 pm**

Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?
Except I've been dead half the game.
And?

Lynch me then, you'll be absolutely mortified when you find out who I am.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:00 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?
He tried and failed to recruit Dom. I find that to be an idea worth thinking about.

Let me know if I'm mistaken, but did we clear Zeek of being a Dalek (all dead) or a Cyberman (they killed him)? So, The Recruiter would be a fine possibility for him. Can you imagine if we rezzed The Recruiter?! Wow. Who was responsible for that rez?

MP and Hedgie jointly agreed to rezz zeek.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:00 pm**

Dom wrote:I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.

Am I playing horribly? If so, please let me know how.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:00 pm**

The crowd was rattled and unsure of itself as they tried to decide who was bad. The crowd was almost evenly split between Dfaraday and Dom. No one was sure of anything anymore. No one could be sure of anyone or anything anymore. Doubt. Suspicion. Faulty logic lie around every corner. The tables are flipped and flopped then flipped again. Up is becoming Down - Left becoming right.

Finally, despite several doubters, Dom was lead to the gallows. As they began to tie him up, they realized that there was no rope. They looked around when finally they heard a cough.

"Looking for this?" The Doctor asked holding the rope. "You lot are getting bloodthirsty. I'm giving you a time out. Put it to good use and figure out who the traitors are rather than just killing all willy-nilly. And if we could do it with even just the TINIEST of civility it would be greatly appreciated."

No one has been lynched. You have 23 hours to send in anything you need to send in.

Announcement: My life is about to get cluster eff crazy. I believe one of my co-managers is getting go this evening. I'm now going back to crazy work schedule I had last year before the wedding. My time was already stretching pretty thin and it's about to get thinner. I apologize in advance as I'm sure this is likely to interrupt the consistency of posts I've been trying so hard to maintain as well as limit my availability to answering questions. I will do my best I promise. I just wanted to advance warn you guys.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:01 pm**

DFaraday wrote:
Dom wrote:I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.
I do think this game really got out of hand in a few different ways, and I'm as much to blame as anyone. I'm actually going to feel kind of bad if it turns out you are the Master at this point because of the lack of deductive reasoning any of us (except Zeek) used to get there.

EBWOP: Wow, LC, you're saying pretty much the exact opposite of what I said.

What?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:02 pm**

Hope you're alright, Bea

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:02 pm**

Zeek tried to recruit Dom, failed, thus knows him to be The Master? It's plausible, for sure.

I can't help but note how both Dom and Zeek have expressed how much we would regret lynching them, after LC warned everyone not to let a Strax lynch happen..

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:03 pm**

zeek wrote:Hope you're alright, Bea

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:06 pm**

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?
Except I've been dead half the game.
And?
Lynch me then, you'll be absolutely mortified when you find out who I am.

This sounds familiar....

Dom wrote:
I will say that you will hate the result of my lynch. I am not the Master. I am not a Cyber. I am not recruited. You will not like my lynch.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:06 pm**

keys56000000000 wrote:Zeek tried to recruit Dom, failed, thus knows him to be The Master? It's plausible, for sure.

Dear lord, people, you won't vote for Dom because you think I'm making assumptions and then you all jump to them yourself.

I suggest you all reassess.

"Aww, btw, thanks for finding the Master."

That's cool guys, why don't you suspect me for it now?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:09 pm**

zeek wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Zeek tried to recruit Dom, failed, thus knows him to be The Master? It's plausible, for sure.
Dear lord, people, you won't vote for Dom because you think I'm making assumptions and then you all jump to them yourself.

I suggest you all reassess.

"Aww, btw, thanks for finding the Master."

That's cool guys, why don't you suspect me for it now?

Is that what you were hoping for? Is that why you went all apeshit getting Dom lynched? You thought you'd get a free ride to the end of the game with it?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:10 pm**

Chris wrote:Is that what you were hoping for? Is that why you went all apeshit getting Dom lynched? You thought you'd get a free ride to the end of the game with it?

Yeah Chris, cause I was taking sooooo much heat before I did that.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:12 pm**

What day was it that people were assuming that The Master used his randomizing power? Should go see if there seemed to be any reason why Dom would have thought he was in danger.

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:Is that what you were hoping for? Is that why you went all apeshit getting Dom lynched? You thought you'd get a free ride to the end of the game with it?
Yeah Chris, cause I was taking sooooo much heat before I did that.

Getting civ cred is not the same as trying to remove heat.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:13 pm**

Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:16 pm**

keys56000000000 wrote:I can't help but note how both Dom and Zeek have expressed how much we would regret lynching them, after LC warned everyone not to let a Strax lynch happen..

At least Dom isn't Strax, right? So that's good. And how would Strax *know* that Dom is The Master. Strax never tried to kill Dom.

Dom and Zeek, are either of you planning on claiming a Prize as the reason for you being a Civvie with powers no Civvie has?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:16 pm**

Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??

What about me, sir?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:17 pm**

I don't need civ cred, people generally trusted me up until this point.

I'll deal with the ignorance tomorrow

linki - no prize here, but expect Dom to pretend to have used one.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:18 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, what if zeek knew who Dom was because he's "the recruiter"?
He tried and failed to recruit Dom. I find that to be an idea worth thinking about.

... did we clear Zeek of being a Dalek?

Well, when Roxy died, zeek was dead. But there are a few in the game who insist/strongly suggest that MR was the unknown Dalek. I thought it was Daisy. So FWIW, it's not looking like he's the unknown Dalek. And besides, the Dalek kill didn't come back.

zeek is not the Dalek, but I'm really starting to think he's the recruiter. But I agree, The Master is the more important role to go after.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:21 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??
What about me, sir?

Well, unfortunately, if Zeek is The Recruiter and failed to recruit Dom because The Master can't be recruited... then your own information that you can't reveal about why Dom is The Master could easily spring from you being a recruit and having access to the same info Zeek does. Or you being the Recruiter and Zeek being a recruit also works in that scenario... Zeek would be an excellent recruit since we know he's not Cyber or Dalek, and you'd be a good recruit because you're influential and hard to nail down as a baddie.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:22 pm**

Hosts: Was the lynch a tie?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:23 pm**

zeek wrote:I don't need civ cred, people generally trusted me up until this point.

I'll deal with the ignorance tomorrow

linki - no prize here, but expect Dom to pretend to have used one.

Good night, I'd love for you to at least acknowledge that my theory that you're The Recruiter makes sense logically, and isn't just some ignorant half-cocked theory full of wild assumptions.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:24 pm**

keys56000000000 wrote:Hosts: Was the lynch a tie?

inb4 Chris brings up Long Con yelling at you for asking this.

I'm just not that guy anymore.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:25 pm**

LOL!!

nice inb4...

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:31 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??
What about me, sir?
Well, unfortunately, if Zeek is The Recruiter and failed to recruit Dom because The Master can't be recruited... then your own information that you can't reveal about why Dom is The Master could easily spring from you being a recruit and having access to the same info Zeek does. Or you being the Recruiter and Zeek being a recruit also works in that scenario... Zeek would be an excellent recruit since we know he's not Cyber or Dalek, and you'd be a good recruit because you're influential and hard to nail down as a baddie.

Hmm.

What if I told you that I was good, got recruited, then got recruited AGAIN, and then got a new power.

That'd be trippy, wouldn't it?

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:33 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??
What about me, sir?
Well, unfortunately, if Zeek is The Recruiter and failed to recruit Dom because The Master can't be recruited... then your own information that you can't reveal about why Dom is The Master could easily spring from you being a recruit and having access to the same info Zeek does. Or you being the Recruiter and Zeek being a recruit also works in that scenario... Zeek would be an excellent recruit since we know he's not Cyber or Dalek, and you'd be a good recruit because you're influential and hard to nail down as a baddie.
Hmm.

What if I told you that I was good, got recruited, then got recruited AGAIN, and then got a new power.

That'd be trippy, wouldn't it?

Yes, very trippy!

Also, Chris, I wanted to let you know what your quote signature was supposed to say... what the Generator made it into is 1000x better, but the original statement was "Strax's kill tonight hopefully factors into my suspicions."

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:34 pm**

Long Con wrote:Good night, I'd love for you to at least acknowledge that my theory that you're The Recruiter makes sense logically, and isn't just some ignorant half-cocked theory full of wild assumptions.

It might make sense to you, I can see that, however it does have a wild assumption in it. That there is no way I could know what I know, within the known roles. I can tell you that reasoning and logic took me most of the way there, but something else took me the rest.

I apologise if you thought I was calling you specifically ignorant, I was just referring to the lack of knowledge in the thread.

Srsly

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:35 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??
What about me, sir?
Well, unfortunately, if Zeek is The Recruiter and failed to recruit Dom because The Master can't be recruited... then your own information that you can't reveal about why Dom is The Master could easily spring from you being a recruit and having access to the same info Zeek does. Or you being the Recruiter and Zeek being a recruit also works in that scenario... Zeek would be an excellent recruit since we know he's not Cyber or Dalek, and you'd be a good recruit because you're influential and hard to nail down as a baddie.
Hmm.

What if I told you that I was good, got recruited, then got recruited AGAIN, and then got a new power.

That'd be trippy, wouldn't it?
Yes, very trippy!

Also, Chris, I wanted to let you know what your quote signature was supposed to say... what the Generator made it into is 1000x better, but the original statement was "Strax's kill tonight hopefully factors into my suspicions."

That didn't happen, I'm sorry to say, but there we are.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:40 pm**

Might you come to these conclusions if you were in my shoes?

If not, can you tell me what would make you disbeleive it?

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