The Syndicate

Illyria wrote:

Polo wrote:Voting for the absentees (or those who aren't posting much) is something I can get along with.

While I do not mind that as a Day One strategy, I would like to see how this day shakes out before we go there.

WOW. Several out of the gate votes, that feels so strange to me. Is this normal now?

Well on games with changeable votes, I see no problem with votes right out the gate. When I first started here, all games seemed to be one vote final per day.

Spacedaisy wrote:

Dom wrote:Daisy what do you think of Illy's post?

Dom wrote:Daisy, would you like to answer my question or?

Geez, relax a minute here, lol. I read your question at work and wanted to ISO Illy to see what you were talking about. That is why I didn't answer you sooner. The answer is, what post are you referring to? Most of her posts were fluff. I don't mean that disrespectfully, I've been giving it a pass for now because I assume she is just getting reacclimated to the game. But you clearly have one post in mind so could you clarify your question please?

The post where she predicted how BWT would flip.

Matt wrote:Rip Silver.

I'll be catching up sometime in the next 24 hours or so.

This was almost 27 hours ago. His last post. Just putting that out there.

Scotty wrote:

Matt wrote:Rip Silver.

I'll be catching up sometime in the next 24 hours or so.

This was almost 27 hours ago. His last post. Just putting that out there.

i think i found what Matt needs

thellama73 wrote:

DFaraday wrote: I'm voting Matt for now because literally every post he's had this game is about how he's behind and needs to catch up.

This is true, and upsetting, and I kind of want to vote for him too, but I can't see a baddie intentionally adopting it as a strategy. Do you think his failure to catch up is indicative of alignment, or is this just a protest vote to try to get him to pay attention?

I think it could be a baddie tactic, trying to lie low in the early going while falling back on the "I was just trying to catch up" preemptive defense. If so, though, Matt is leaning really heavily on it. Still, I feel comfortable leaving my vote there for now.

Nerolunar wrote:Granted, I did understand his point about being wary of wagons but he looks so much like Arkham - thats the main driving force. Sorry if I'm being confusing about this.

So you're not going to address my response in which I told you that this is how I play every game? Okay.

DrWilgy wrote:*Polo cries out to the wind*

Dr. Wilgy, are you going to insist on lurking?

*A whisper can be heard*
Yes...

Yes I am...

My phone died and my means of playing and keeping up with the chat are limited...

Scotty, I think you are civ... who should I look at and in what order...

Anyway, I think you should look at the players in the poll, and start with a player and go in any order you wish, doc

I'm actually curious who you find most fishy right now.

I won't be around much tomorrow, but will hopefully be around at EOD. If not I'll be voting now.

I still believe there is a good chance DF is mafia. Last game in which I suspected him and didn't follow through he did end up flipping mafia. So I'll be voting for him today.

Lynch DFaraday

im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

Why is there no fun yet?

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

Wow.

sig wrote:I won't be around much tomorrow, but will hopefully be around at EOD. If not I'll be voting now.

I still believe there is a good chance DF is mafia. Last game in which I suspected him and didn't follow through he did end up flipping mafia. So I'll be voting for him today.

Lynch DFaraday

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

Both of these votes are terrible and make no sense.

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

I saw this pleasant looking parking cone on the side of the road while I was walking down main street today and I was feeling desperate for attention so I took it and now we're married.

DFaraday wrote:

sig wrote:I won't be around much tomorrow, but will hopefully be around at EOD. If not I'll be voting now.

I still believe there is a good chance DF is mafia. Last game in which I suspected him and didn't follow through he did end up flipping mafia. So I'll be voting for him today.

Lynch DFaraday

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

Both of these votes are terrible and make no sense.

I'm actually with you on this one. We've got "he was mafia last game" and "i'm just copying the last person I saw when I logged in"

Woof. I feel better about DFaraday right now, also considering that he has been mafia twice in a row. Lightning doesn't strike thrice, does it?

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:Voted Dr Wilgy, because I don't feel so strongly about any of the bandwagons, and I need to vote whle I have a moment. I don't like that he's hiding behind shtick--that is a behavior that generally rings baddie to me. So, really, I guess this is my asking him to just post normally so we can all just read his posts simply.

That post doesn't say one thing or another to me, so I am going to eye Lorab all I want.

Go for it.

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:Voted Dr Wilgy, because I don't feel so strongly about any of the bandwagons, and I need to vote whle I have a moment. I don't like that he's hiding behind shtick--that is a behavior that generally rings baddie to me. So, really, I guess this is my asking him to just post normally so we can all just read his posts simply.

That post doesn't say one thing or another to me, so I am going to eye Lorab all I want.

Go for it.

Scotty wrote:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

I saw this pleasant looking parking cone on the side of the road while I was walking down main street today and I was feeling desperate for attention so I took it and now we're married.

For a moment I thought you had been targeted by Lady Rose MacClare's insanifying skill then I read your next post.

Have any of ye suspected anyone to have been insanified? Maybe Lady Rose was Silverwolf, or Lady Rose targeted Ika but that didn't matter since he got silenced.

I am at a loss to understand what is happening this game. I am not confident in a DF lynch but I am not confident he is civ either. But these "random" votes that he has received both today and yesterday are bizarre. That said, everyone involved in this whole conversation (both sides) are easy early mislynches,i, not sure I would put money on any of them being bad at the moment.

DF, have you said who you suspect at the moment?

Linki @Polo: if someone is insanified it will be absolutely clear they have been, trust me.

Epignosis wrote:Why is there no fun yet?

Y'all killed the Dowager. What did you expect?

Of all the people garnering votes at the moment Matt is the one that seems the most likely to be bad. For the moment my vote is going there, but I'm not certain I'll leave it there yet. Plus, I really don't know that I think DF is bad and I'm historically crap at reading him so I have no desire to mislynches him early yet again.

Then I have three scenarios in my mind:

1) SIlverwolf was Lady Rose MacClare;
2) Lady Rose MacClare targeted ika but ika got silenced;
3) Lady Rose MacClare is someone else who did not use the Insanify ability. Why is that?
3.1) Nobody was insanified because Lady Rose didn't want to use her power (booo);
3.2) Lady Rose MacClare is one of those people who have yet to catch up, e.g. Bubbles or Matt.

I'm placing my vote on Matt. He has time to defend himself and convince me from not voting on him.

I also don't like these reason-less votes on DFaraday. This is one bandwagon I want to avoid for the time being.

EBWOP, because there's two more scenarios that I hadn't thought of previously:

Lady Rose MacClare was talked out of acting on Night 1 because Lady Mary Crawley used her power on Rose;
Lady Rose MacClare had her action redirected to Silverwolf.

Polo wrote:EBWOP, because there's two more scenarios that I hadn't thought of previously:

Lady Rose MacClare was talked out of acting on Night 1 because Lady Mary Crawley used her power on Rose;
Lady Rose MacClare had her action redirected to Silverwolf.

James Kent seems like the same kind of role as well:

"James flirts with his target each night, making him or her forget to do anything at night. " Sounds like a role block.

Long Con wrote:

Polo wrote:EBWOP, because there's two more scenarios that I hadn't thought of previously:

Lady Rose MacClare was talked out of acting on Night 1 because Lady Mary Crawley used her power on Rose;
Lady Rose MacClare had her action redirected to Silverwolf.

James Kent seems like the same kind of role as well:

"James flirts with his target each night, making him or her forget to do anything at night. " Sounds like a role block.

Are you James Kent?

Okay with Bubbles and Sig voting DF for shallow reasons(and myself too, to a degree I will admit) Im thinking about backing off of him. If Matt has not responded to his accusers by the time I leave for a party later this afternoon my vote will go there. I think Ika is the one who is silenced, otherwise he would have posted by now.

I had hoped that the votes on Matt were merely attempts to get his attention, and not serious attempts to kill him, but as the day nears an end, I'm not so sure.

Come on guys, do you really think a baddie Matt with teammates would just ignore the thread and let himself be lynched? I feel certain he will flip civ is this bandwagon doesn't change direction.

As for me, I'm joining the DFaraday group, since I find him more suspicious than Matt by a long shot.

Spacedaisy wrote:Of all the people garnering votes at the moment Matt is the one that seems the most likely to be bad. For the moment my vote is going there, but I'm not certain I'll leave it there yet. Plus, I really don't know that I think DF is bad and I'm historically crap at reading him so I have no desire to mislynches him early yet again.

This makes me really distrust Spacedaisy. I don't think she thinks Matt is bad, but rather that his death would be more convenient than DFaraday's.

I wouldn't say I strongly suspect Matt, I didn't like any of the current wagons. But when I looked at the list and tried to decide who I would be more comfortable voting for, there was no one. I'm not saving DF, I can't read DF for shit and I have contributed to his mislynch a lot in the last year, it's making me gun shy and I don't see the case for him as being all that strong in the first place. Mistrust me all you want Llama, but those are the facts, I don't have any nefarious intentions.

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

We could team up and vote for Daisy if you want.

Scotty wrote:I guess what I'm tryin to say is: Metalmarsh

I could very well see a Dom or DFaraday/MM pairing. A teammate trying to save one of the big trains by attaching to another. A day 1 marmot lynch wouldn't be so bad, would it?

Scotty, where are you on this idea today?

I agree with Llama, I doubt Matt is the baddie we are looking for. I am looking over Scotty's posts right now to see if I can shore up my buddying suspicion, but I'm not seeing much there. Either he's playing a very careful game, or he's not bad. Either way, obviously a Scotty lynch isn't in the cards today, so I'll switch to DFaraday.

Polo wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

I saw this pleasant looking parking cone on the side of the road while I was walking down main street today and I was feeling desperate for attention so I took it and now we're married.

For a moment I thought you had been targeted by Lady Rose MacClare's insanifying skill then I read your next post.

Have any of ye suspected anyone to have been insanified? Maybe Lady Rose was Silverwolf, or Lady Rose targeted Ika but that didn't matter since he got silenced.

I kept saying I haven't seen any fun yet.

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

Not that I disagree with you about Bubbles, but this strikes me as a little bit "low-hanging fruit".

Scotty wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

sig wrote:I won't be around much tomorrow, but will hopefully be around at EOD. If not I'll be voting now.

I still believe there is a good chance DF is mafia. Last game in which I suspected him and didn't follow through he did end up flipping mafia. So I'll be voting for him today.

Lynch DFaraday

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

Both of these votes are terrible and make no sense.

I'm actually with you on this one. We've got "he was mafia last game" and "i'm just copying the last person I saw when I logged in"

Woof. I feel better about DFaraday right now, also considering that he has been mafia twice in a row. Lightning doesn't strike thrice, does it?

Actually this pings me a little about Scotty. I don't think he'd defend a Mafia teammate so blatantly, but if DF is Civ then this 'logic' is what I'd expect a baddie do do to get some cred for defending a civ.

And what was the traffic cone marriage thing? I think that's another one that went over my head.

thellama73 wrote:I had hoped that the votes on Matt were merely attempts to get his attention, and not serious attempts to kill him, but as the day nears an end, I'm not so sure.

Come on guys, do you really think a baddie Matt with teammates would just ignore the thread and let himself be lynched? I feel certain he will flip civ is this bandwagon doesn't change direction.

As for me, I'm joining the DFaraday group, since I find him more suspicious than Matt by a long shot.

The problem I have with this thinking is that the opposite scenario applies equally: "Come on guys, do you really think a civilian Matt without teammates would just ignore the thread and let himself be lynched?"

I can't see an absentee Matt in either alignment. It's unlike him in general, which leads me to suspect he's merely busy and his availability suffers.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

She does need to get back in here and put the time in. Lynching me would be lame, but I do think she should play. As far as I know, she's been making sure to vote and use night actions (assuming she has any ) and has been keeping up, but she has also been busy.

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

We could team up and vote for Daisy if you want.

Why daisy? She contributes....

Long Con wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

Not that I disagree with you about Bubbles, but this strikes me as a little bit "low-hanging fruit".

I guess I'm just getting tired of this same crap all the time. Later on in the game it's important to have people who show up and contribute to conversations, I can't think of a time bubbles has ever done that. I don't care what kind of suspicion this draws to me either. Maybe we'll get lucky and she is bad. That's how she flipped in Arkham.

I'm putting a vote on Illy right now. I didn't love her responses to being suspected and I'm going to be out for the rest of teh day.

This replacement actually makes me more inclined to vote Bubbles/bea at this point over Matt.

I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

Health issues. I'm catching up now, almost done.

Long Con wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

She does need to get back in here and put the time in. Lynching me would be lame, but I do think she should play. As far as I know, she's been making sure to vote and use night actions (assuming she has any ) and has been keeping up, but she has also been busy.

Oh my dude. You're just something this game.

Epignosis. Your leading theory heading into the night was that I was bad and was LC's baddie teammate. After the night you state that I'm off the table, which I imagine is due to that post. You're still voting for LC, which you state has nothing to do with that post. Do you still believe I'm LC's teammate or do you now believe me to be civ? I now realize I might have missed this in my catch up as my daughter was talking to me and I do believe I was looking at her as I was scrolling.

To answer your question. I am currently on the fence with LC. I'm not sure if he's up to no good or I'm taking some of his statements personally. For instance the new one I quoted. Sometimes it's complicated playing with a husband. I'm not ruling out I will vote for today. Somehow he's gotten under my skin early this game, where as I usually ignore him in early game.

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

That is a very good point.

Looks like dead read is gonna be my new color around this site.

Silverwolf wrote:Looks like dead red is gonna be my new color around this site.

EBWOP