The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote:Ok. I analyzed Leetic as scum. Not civ minded. Manipulative with a thrown together art of ethos.

Tell me Leetic, why should Zebra keep that in mind in case Sig flips scum? Or are you going to dodge my question for another 48 hours?

Wow, trying to "analyze" me without giving any evidence. Nice.

Also, we should, since that is possible scummbuddying.

a2thezebra wrote:

leetic wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I also think that sig is bad but I've been wrong about sig too many times to put my vote there...for now.

Why are you relying on meta reads? Keep this post in mind if sig flips scum.

I'm not relying on meta reads, I'm relying(?) on my failure to read a particular player.

If you find someone scummy, you vote for them. Scum can take advantage of such attitudes as yours.

leetic wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Ok. I analyzed Leetic as scum. Not civ minded. Manipulative with a thrown together art of ethos.

Tell me Leetic, why should Zebra keep that in mind in case Sig flips scum? Or are you going to dodge my question for another 48 hours?

Wow, trying to "analyze" me without giving any evidence. Nice.

Also, we should, since that is possible scummbuddying.

Evidence: You told everyone to apologize to Quin, emphasizing a "I didn't do anything wrong" attitude. Then when I responded to your analysis that had a question in it, you dodged the question for 48 hours. So 1. You inappropriately appealed which put yourself in a higher light and 2. You only read and respond to things that assist you rather than others.

You still have yet to answer that question from 48 hours ago.

DrWilgy wrote:

leetic wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Ok. I analyzed Leetic as scum. Not civ minded. Manipulative with a thrown together art of ethos.

Tell me Leetic, why should Zebra keep that in mind in case Sig flips scum? Or are you going to dodge my question for another 48 hours?

Wow, trying to "analyze" me without giving any evidence. Nice.

Also, we should, since that is possible scummbuddying.

Evidence: You told everyone to apologize to Quin, emphasizing a "I didn't do anything wrong" attitude. Then when I responded to your analysis that had a question in it, you dodged the question for 48 hours. So 1. You inappropriately appealed which put yourself in a higher light and 2. You only read and respond to things that assist you rather than others.

You still have yet to answer that question from 48 hours ago.

Evidence: I have made far more analysis than any other user. And you know what? I'm gonna analyze you, because you are acting very tunnel-y.

And I told everyone to apologize to Quin, not because it was a scumtell, but rather because I feltit was unfair to lynch someone based on the actions of someone else.

Make a wallpost detailing my posts, and maybe I will take your "accusations" seriously.

Alright DrWilgy. Here's a much-needed post for analyzing him. Had to skip like three-fourths of his posts for being NGR banter. But here it is.

DrWilgy wrote:Lalala~<3 hello everyone! My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a singer!

I have a question! Who is worried more about survivability mafia or civilian?

Next I want you to think based on your answer from above. Who would be more vocal regarding survival? WIFOM isn't an option.

INH can I please have a GTH on Silver, Ika, Rabbit and MP?

So first you ask a question that has nothing to do with scumhunting, and second a minimal-effort scumhunting tactic. You're playing very tunnelly in this game, as on D1 most of you posts were about "GTH" and afterwards most of your posts were about me.

DrWilgy wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Lalala~<3 hello everyone! My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a singer!

I have a question! Who is worried more about survivability mafia or civilian?

Next I want you to think based on your answer from above. Who would be more vocal regarding survival? WIFOM isn't an option.

INH can I please have a GTH on Silver, Ika, Rabbit and MP?

(uhh what does GTH stand for?)

Lalala~<3 GTH is a gun to head read. If I had a gun, put it to your head and told you to tell me good or bad reads of people, that's GTH.

@Silver, are you and Ika both good or both bad? Also... I see you skipped my question from previous...

...Why would they say they're both bad?

DrWilgy wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

DrWilgy wrote: @Silver, are you and Ika both good or both bad? Also... I see you skipped my question from previous...

Stop grouping us together. I don't speak for ika.

I didn't skip shit. I probably missed it. I have half the game lining up to scumread/question me for fucking playstyle shit ika and I get every time we play together.

Well, pardon me Silver, but here's the reason why we can't stop grouping you together.

ika wrote:I'm on break but if people are thinking silver is scum I will bet you right fucking now she's town. If anyone is gonna fight me on that I will bet right now. I'm mobile so I'll speak later proeper

along with

Silver wrote:Also, if everyone is gonna start pairing ika and I up again, I'm gonna get irate. Just because we know each other IRL and are very good at figuring each other out in these games does not mean we are the same person. Read us differently.

So why do you get upset when we read you together? based on the theory hat you read each other very well, we can assume if you two aren't doubting on one another, then you are on the same team.

Here's something else that's off, we aren't saying you are the same person, we are saying that you share alignment based on the above. Do you think this is true or false?

This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

Also, in regards to my question, it was a mindset type question. I hope that others answer it as well.

@Ika has Silver gotten past you as scum in any other games?

Wolf attacking. NAI because they were scummy.

DrWilgy wrote:Hmm... Bye Ika and Silver. Hello Epi and Quin.

INH, mind doing that GTH now? I just want good or bad regarding Epi, Quin, MP, Rabbit, and I.

GTH tunneling.

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Yo MP!

What caused your townread on leetic? What caused your townread on Ikanosis?

Actually it was mostly the conversation that leetic and Epi had regarding policy lynches; they both seemed genuinely interested in town's best interests with their viewpoints. It's tentative though and heavily gut-based until I have voting data and such.

Thanks, I'm torn between voting Quin for the points I raised earlier with Silver and giving Quin another chance. (I just realized that I don't like killing those who sub in. I wonder why?)

Quin, could you resolve this for me?

DrWilgy wrote:This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

I do like the way votes are spread though, we are on the right path.

Linki - Well you haven't tried too hard to read me then Gleam, because I've contributed more. I'll help you settle your frustration when you (if you) answer any questions that I've asked the group and stop saying that I don't do anything.

Already addressed.

DrWilgy wrote:Guess I'm voting Quin.

Guess your vote was scummy. See below for details.

DrWilgy wrote:

leetic wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Yo MP!

What caused your townread on leetic? What caused your townread on Ikanosis?

Actually it was mostly the conversation that leetic and Epi had regarding policy lynches; they both seemed genuinely interested in town's best interests with their viewpoints. It's tentative though and heavily gut-based until I have voting data and such.

Thanks, I'm torn between voting Quin for the points I raised earlier with Silver and giving Quin another chance. (I just realized that I don't like killing those who sub in. I wonder why?)

Quin, could you resolve this for me?

...Okay. Why the hell would you ask Quin that? She’d obviously say that she wouldn’t want to be lynched (and in fact had said that previously) and this post just feels like an excuse not to vote.

DrWilgy wrote:Guess I'm voting Quin.

...Although he did end up voting Quin. He changed his opinion in light of the fact that there was very little time left in the phase (keep in mind Quin made no posts between these two). So why the above post? Maybe he wanted to present the illusion of giving Quin a chance, but was hasty after there was little time. DrWilgy is looking scummy.

At least snip my quotes correctly. I wasn't asking Quin to say "yeah go ahead and lynch me" or not, what I stated was this:

DrWilgy wrote:Quin, could you resolve this for me?

DrWilgy wrote:This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

There was no "illusion" of wanting to give Quin a chance. I wanted to give Quin a chance and even stated so, but only because of my dislike of voting replacements. I asked a question hoping for resolution, but then had to vote for someone before time was up. Would you rather me random vote or not vote at all?

Okay. So, by analyzing his posts, it seems he'd be referring to GTH.

Except, this was something that occurred before she subbed in. Besides, that's 5 people you asked and didn't respond, are all five scum? Well actually three flipped town so that post is the epitome of your scummyness.

There. I responded to your damn post. Happy?

DrWilgy wrote:Voted Gleam for 7 way tie memes, and for not acknowledging me. If it wouldn't break the tie and had 2 votes, I'd vote Leetic as well. If Marmot was my dad I'd be DrWarmot, most definitely a Marmot Doctor.

Okay. So voting for tying purposes? I guess after Bass's flip that's not scummy so much as it is pointless. Why the hell do people vote for reasons like this?

DrWilgy wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Voting Wilgy because he doesn't exist.

Zebra, would you ignore me?

What are you talking about? I don't understand any of this post.

Yay! Zebra doesn't hate me! *eyes sparkle as he leaps towards Zebra with open arms*

Gleam and Leetic hate me...

If you think I'm an ethos egomaniac, then you're a pathos one. Trying to appeal to emotion by saying your accusers hate you. D'aw...

DrWilgy wrote:Leeeeeeeeeeeeeetic!

wanna respond to me now?

DrWilgy wrote:

Serge wrote:What posts, leetic have I not responded to? Go ahead, shoot.

I don't think leetic is qualified to give judgement based on lack of responses.

DrWilgy wrote:#votingleetictillhesdead

More tunnelling me. This is literally all he posted in the span of 48 hours, just meaningless, repetitive posts that say he wants me lynched.

To be fair, I don't find him as scummy as sig or even Serge, but he's number three on my list for now.

leetic wrote:

Serge wrote:What posts, leetic have I not responded to? Go ahead, shoot.

Um, a lot of them, but let's just start with this one.

leetic wrote:

Serge wrote:Go for it. I want to see leetic lynched.

I'll give you one word:

Why?

I have given detailed reasons for all my reads, whereas you don't have more than two sentences saying why you want to lynch me (compare to my wallpost on BtC).

You know what? That's a good idea. I want you to make a wallpost detailing my posts and why you find them scummy. I'm genuinely interested in your analysis skills. Do this, and I may stop scumreading you.

I have that lone case against you plus I didn't know you were newer than me at that point, I think. That post is more of a joke.

That being said, I am really curious about your alignment. So...

If you'd grant me a question, leetic. Say if you think I'm a townie, what would your current scum list look like?

Serge wrote:If you'd grant me a question, leetic. Say if you think I'm a townie, what would your current scum list look like?

If you're town, sig/MP/Wilgy are the most likely scum team

Though MM isn't looking very good either

Effective immediately rabbit8.1 will be replacing in for MovingPictures07.

Thanks for at least trying to participate in my first game, MP. Good luck with your PHD program!!
And I was so looking forward to writing your death post.

Serge wrote:

leetic wrote:

Serge wrote:What posts, leetic have I not responded to? Go ahead, shoot.

Um, a lot of them, but let's just start with this one.

leetic wrote:

Serge wrote:Go for it. I want to see leetic lynched.

I'll give you one word:

Why?

I have given detailed reasons for all my reads, whereas you don't have more than two sentences saying why you want to lynch me (compare to my wallpost on BtC).

You know what? That's a good idea. I want you to make a wallpost detailing my posts and why you find them scummy. I'm genuinely interested in your analysis skills. Do this, and I may stop scumreading you.

I have that lone case against you plus I didn't know you were newer than me at that point, I think. That post is more of a joke.

This post just confuses me. If that was just a joke, then why are you voting for me?

You son of a bitches........

I'm sorry for being MIA everyone. I've still got a busy day ahead of me today, but might be around tonight or tomorrow morning.

You know what?

Since Epi suspected Serge and was nightkilled, and rabbit suspected sig and was nightkilled...

I doubt they're scum. They just seem like they're just too easy targets to be scum.

Meanwhile, MM has been passively joining the mislynch bandwagons...

Voting MetalMarsh.

Fuck yeah. You're going down MM.

Is there a reason to lynch MM?

leetic wrote:Yeah, Sig really only joined the wagon when he thought I would defend him, and provided no proper content or analysis to defend his opinions. His late D2 was very scummy.

So, Serge/MP/BtC wasn't a reality... Imma gonna go with Serge/MP/sig then, although sig doesn't really have as many scummy interactions with Serge and MP as BtC did. Rechecking thread to evaluate suspicions.

This is false I never thought you'd defend me and I don't see where you get that idea from I provided my reasoning for breaking the tie and voting for Bass over the other three wagons, one of which was mine.

sig wrote:Is there a reason to lynch MM?

Would you rather be lynched instead?

Argh, I cannot keep track of all these 2.0 players

Zeebs, I'm confused. Not being able to read a player makes them likelier to be civilian? I think at this point in the game, an unclear read is more worrisome for me.

Leetic has been playing solid and consistent game so far. I voted for him earlier because of the MP confusion but now MP is gone and has said very little since then. I'm leaning towards a good read on him.

Zebra and Wilgy I still cannot get a good read on.

agleaminranks wrote:Argh, I cannot keep track of all these 2.0 players

Me either.

agleaminranks wrote:Zeebs, I'm confused. Not being able to read a player makes them likelier to be civilian?

Where did I say that?

leetic wrote:You know what?

Since Epi suspected Serge and was nightkilled, and rabbit suspected sig and was nightkilled...

I doubt they're scum. They just seem like they're just too easy targets to be scum.

Meanwhile, MM has been passively joining the mislynch bandwagons...

Voting MetalMarsh.

Did you night kill me? I think you might have.

Ummm, hi.

Who's bad?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ummm, hi.

Who's bad?

rabbit8.0 wrote:I'm thinking of looking into MP much more during the next day.

Draconus wrote:Effective immediately rabbit8.1 will be replacing in for MovingPictures07.

Thanks for at least trying to participate in my first game, MP. Good luck with your PHD program!!
And I was so looking forward to writing your death post.

Maybe me?

a2thezebra wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:Zeebs, I'm confused. Not being able to read a player makes them likelier to be civilian?

Where did I say that?

a2thezebra wrote:

leetic wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I also think that sig is bad but I've been wrong about sig too many times to put my vote there...for now.

Why are you relying on meta reads? Keep this post in mind if sig flips scum.

I'm not relying on meta reads, I'm relying(?) on my failure to read a particular player.

This was also right after defending Wilgy as being good. Maybe I misread your intentions.

That being said, I don't feel great about Wilgy, and I don't see whatever patterns you are. I feel like he's more been skirting the outside for too long.

I have to go into work so I will vote Wilgy before I do so. I think I might be reading you two as teammates.

I don't see why Zebra is voting for MM and she doesn't explain her reasoning either I dislike this.


I can't shake my current gut read of leetic. He is posting a good amount however, I'm not sure he is a civ. I need to stew on this.

agleaminranks wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:Zeebs, I'm confused. Not being able to read a player makes them likelier to be civilian?

Where did I say that?

a2thezebra wrote:

leetic wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I also think that sig is bad but I've been wrong about sig too many times to put my vote there...for now.

Why are you relying on meta reads? Keep this post in mind if sig flips scum.

I'm not relying on meta reads, I'm relying(?) on my failure to read a particular player.

This was also right after defending Wilgy as being good. Maybe I misread your intentions.

If you read the post that you're quoting you'll see that I don't state or imply that my failure to read sig makes him more likely to be civilian, it just means that I'm not comfortable putting my vote there.

rabbit8 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ummm, hi.

Who's bad?

rabbit8.0 wrote:I'm thinking of looking into MP much more during the next day.

Draconus wrote:Effective immediately rabbit8.1 will be replacing in for MovingPictures07.

Thanks for at least trying to participate in my first game, MP. Good luck with your PHD program!!
And I was so looking forward to writing your death post.

Maybe me?

I can dig it.

Anyone got anything interesting to add?

I'm going to break this tie one way or the other. Is anyone else going to vote or change their vote?

I'm beginning to get a little suspicious of Leetic. Yes, he's posted some solid analysis, but it's become more and more subjective as time goes by, and he's acting like anyone who doesn't do wallposts and disagrees with his opinions must be bad. I also lack the comprehension to understand his vote for Metalmarsh. I still find Serge more suspicious, but leetic is beginning to lose my trust.

rabbit8 wrote:Anyone got anything interesting to add?

I'm going to break this tie one way or the other. Is anyone else going to vote or change their vote?

I am yet to vote, and don't want to vote for anyone who currently has a vote.

Friend?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ummm, hi.

Who's bad?

rabbit8.0 wrote:I'm thinking of looking into MP much more during the next day.

Draconus wrote:Effective immediately rabbit8.1 will be replacing in for MovingPictures07.

Thanks for at least trying to participate in my first game, MP. Good luck with your PHD program!!
And I was so looking forward to writing your death post.

Maybe me?

I can dig it.

Yo Marmot, what are your thoughts on this here lynch?

insertnamehere wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Anyone got anything interesting to add?

I'm going to break this tie one way or the other. Is anyone else going to vote or change their vote?

I am yet to vote, and don't want to vote for anyone who currently has a vote.

Friend?

Serge? I have been rereading him. He is off to me. But I don't know about leetic. I have a strange feeling. But my radar needs tuning because of not playing in so long. So....

I still want to vote for sig though, this role is mostly the same as my last, as in civvie/town....

I feel like I should apologise for sub-par activity since replacing again. I've got a report due in 2 days, but if I'm still alive by the time I submit it I'll definitely pick up my socks. plz 4giv.

Meanwhile, I don't intend to move my vote. sig's reasoning and overall behaviour came off the worst among those who lynched that Quin 1.0 guy, and I, Quin 2.0, firmly believe he is a bad.

I'm moving my vote to sig. I could be persuaded to move it again....

still don't necessarily see the case against sig as stronger than the one against Serge, who I'm just gonna put my vote on right now.

*voting serge*

I haven't seen anyone post a spirited defense of Serge except for Serge, and I'm nowhere near convinced by his. Everybody seems to agree that he's shady, but everyone always pursues other options at lynching time, primarily to our detriment. I'm putting my foot down, hopefully in a way that'll kick Serge out the door.

C'mon, really guys? Radio silence?

It is now Night 3. Titans, you have until Saturday the 4th at 9 pm EST to send me your next victim.

I'll state this again for everyone's benefit. My end-of-phase times will ALWAYS be 9 pm EST. I don't know how to manipulate the time on the polls down to the minute, so just ignore those going forward.

Consider me officially pissed off about this lynch.

So as of right now civilians are down 5 members with a sixth one gone tonight. On Day 4, there'll be 3 mafia and 6 civilians.

Not a good ratio.

I think it's time to officially get our shit together.

Serge....

Still think Sig too.

leetic wrote:After a long day of chores, this is what I come back to. Seriously, guys?

Oh well. Is there a deadchat for this game?

I do not have one set up for this game, no. If enough people show enough interest in it I could ask one of our wonderful MODs to make one.