The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:48 pm**

Rest in peace, Simon. You must've hit a nerve in there somewhere :-\

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:48 pm**

He died a natural death.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:59 pm**

Nevinera wrote:Rest in peace, Simon. You must've hit a nerve in there somewhere :-\

Krissy?

Hard luck Simon. We will endeavour to avenge you.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:01 pm**

A Person wrote:He died a natural death.

He was scrapped by a gang of anthropomorphic trains bent on domination.
Not entirely natural, imo.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:06 pm**

Wow, didnt see that coming. RIP Simon. I would have supported a Krissy vote for sure, but that seems like such an obvious link to make now with Simon targeted.

I could still be talked into it with good evidence, but otherwise I am leaning towards A Person.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:13 pm**

Nevinera wrote:
A Person wrote:He died a natural death.
He was scrapped by a gang of anthropomorphic trains bent on domination.
Not entirely natural, imo.

Get real people.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:19 pm**

Simon wrote:Looking at everything, I think I can trust DP, Snow Dog, Mongoose, Andrew, and Hedgeowl. Are you good Hedgeowl?

DharmaHelper - Are you good?

Nevinera -Are you sure you're good?

McViper - Are you Henry?

Krissy is not Diesel 10, she must be Mavis. I still think Lizzy is bad.

I voted "Hey Jumbo-Tron" because its funny.

I wonder if Simon was Toby. This list may be too close to home to let him keep targeting people. I am not convinced Lizzy is bad, but if Krissy isn't bad then Lizzy might be. Since Lizzy was one of 3 people to vote for Krissy on the day 3 lynch when it was tied, and no one was decommissioned from some protection, I don't think they can both be bad.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:25 pm**

RIP Simon. You will be avenged.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:31 pm**

Bah. I'm going to have to review a ton of histories now. This is the part of the game that's hard work >.<

He certainly seemed to have confidence in things that Toby might have a way of knowing.
But he's also really young, so I'm not willing to take his logic entirely on faith;
He's been pretty gung ho for a lynch or two that turned out bad I believe (I'll confirm that after work with some reading).

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:13 pm**

RIP Simon

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:30 pm**

Nevinera wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Bullzeye has been decommissioned. He was Diesel 10.

It is now Night 4. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.
Wow! That is unexpected, but a big win.

I had already observed the bull-snow antagonism, so I feel like snow dog has to be pretty trustworthy now.
I mean, yeah they could have been faking that, but I really don't think bull would have put *so* much effort into that
argument if he were faking it. Given that, and snow's response, I feel pretty good about snow in general.

Since my main reason for suspecting viper was the double-vote with snow (sorry McV, I definitely wouldn't vote for you now),
I guess it's a good thing somebody rewrote the ballots! Good call, whoever you are, though I think I know ;-)

Voting for "Hey, Al Jazeera", because real journalism is old-fashioned and passe.

OK I'm thinking Nev is a baddie, based on how "sincere" his comment was above. He seems to be playing us. Also, I don't think DP is bad anymore. Bullzeye voted for him.

any thoughts?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:06 pm**

Aack. Playing this game is like living a Christopher Nolan film.

I don't know, McV. I agree about DP, but not sure about Nev. However, I found the recent exchange A Person had with various players quite illuminating. I still think Krissy may have gotten in with the bad crowd.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:16 pm**

I could feel a vote for Nev or A Person tbh.

A Person seems way too uncommitted and I've never quite shaken my nev/snow dog suspicions.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:33 pm**

Voting Krissy because simon was night killed and I want to vote her.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:39 pm**

McViper wrote: OK I'm thinking Nev is a baddie, based on how "sincere" his comment was above. He seems to be playing us. Also, I don't think DP is bad anymore. Bullzeye voted for him.

any thoughts?

I'm not sure how to argue with that - your opinion of my 'sincerity' seems rather arbitrary to me.
The post was sincere, in the sense that I was expressing a genuine opinion -
my logic tells me that you and snow are almost certainly civs.

I voted for Bullzeye on Saturday, the day we almost lynched him, if that affects your opinion any.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:47 pm**

Yeah, going over Nev's actions he is off my list for a baddie right now. However, if we can't totally agree, I would support a Krissy or A Person lynch today.

Mongoose, you found the exchange with A Person illuminating in what way?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:01 pm**

In order to do this.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:19 pm**

Nevinera wrote:my logic tells me that you and snow are almost certainly civs.

I feel like I should elaborate on this a little, in case anyone doesn't see the argument:

Snow and Viper both voted for Bullz *first* in a vote, basically simultaneously.
That would be a very unlikely move to make for either of them as baddies,
and it would be *vanishingly* unlikely for both of them to be bad.

Bulls and Viper have voted for each other almost *consistently*, looking back at the record -
I'm counting three votes out of 4 polls in which one of them voted for the other.

DH, DP, Krissy, APerson, and Mongoose all seem like viable suspects to me.
I think I like Mongoose best right now, but I don't have strong feelings about any of them.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:28 pm**

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.
It could very well be different. This is kind of an easier game.
But if they could only target civvies, that outs everyone they target as a civvie and towards the end it'd get really obvious who the baddies were. Would be easier for them to just not target anyone except for the NK if that were the case.

Bullz randomized his first vote he states and then voted DH. In these comments he casts suspicion that DH could still be a baddie, which makes me think now that DH probably is civ.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:31 pm**

Bullzeye wrote:Since there's an hour left to vote and it doesn't look like anybody else is coming, I'm going to have to vote to save myself I suppose. Fortunately, I do think DP could be bad, having had his team insanify him to cover up after people discussed him earlier. So that's who I'll vote for, but if I survive I'll also be keeping a close eye on Viper and Snow. Neither seems to have a decent reason for their vote for me and it's a little too coincidental that they both just happen to vote at the same time. If I do die today (though I'm hoping not) then I would urge the civvies to look more closely at SD and Viper.

Linki: Nev, your willingness to kill civvies just to find out if someone else is bad speaks volumes about your alignment.

This makes me think DP is also a civ, because why would Bullz so blatantly throw suspicion on his own teammate?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:45 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:Since there's an hour left to vote and it doesn't look like anybody else is coming, I'm going to have to vote to save myself I suppose. Fortunately, I do think DP could be bad, having had his team insanify him to cover up after people discussed him earlier. So that's who I'll vote for, but if I survive I'll also be keeping a close eye on Viper and Snow. Neither seems to have a decent reason for their vote for me and it's a little too coincidental that they both just happen to vote at the same time. If I do die today (though I'm hoping not) then I would urge the civvies to look more closely at SD and Viper.

Linki: Nev, your willingness to kill civvies just to find out if someone else is bad speaks volumes about your alignment.
This makes me think DP is also a civ, because why would Bullz so blatantly throw suspicion on his own teammate?

You're right, I'd totally forgotten that conversation.
Bah, no time tonight. At least hedge is doing her due diligence :-)

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:46 pm**

I like Hedgeowl's posts very much .

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:07 am**

I'm thinking DH might be bad news.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:35 am**

A Person wrote:In order to do this.

In order to do what? Can you expand on this thought?

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:37 am**

Snow Dog wrote:
A Person wrote:In order to do this.
In order to do what? Can you expand on this thought?

Was A Person insanified? None of todays posts really make sense.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:42 am**

Hedgeowl wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
A Person wrote:In order to do this.
In order to do what? Can you expand on this thought?
Was A Person insanified? None of todays posts really make sense.

He's making way more sense than the insane usually do..
But I guess you could do that by putting things into the tool to decide if you want to
Post what comes out? I don't know if thats allowed..

Just give us a nice rambling insane post if you are, AP.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:12 am**

In Philadelphia, the school paid the men eChillin (b) honor Deadwood and size.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:38 am**

A Person wrote:In Philadelphia, the school paid the men eChillin (b) honor Deadwood and size.

That seems conclusive :-)

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:05 am**

Nevinera wrote:
A Person wrote:In Philadelphia, the school paid the men eChillin (b) honor Deadwood and size.
That seems conclusive :-)

Yep. That didn't happen in Phily.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:15 am**

OK, I wnet back and looked at who voted Llama out. they were:
Lizzy, Andrew, Bullzeye , birdwithteeth11, A Person.

We know Bullzeye was bad. Of the above group I think Lizzy, A Person and Birdwithteeth are at the top of my list for being lynched

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:17 am**

Based on that and because Lizzy sort of sounds like Krissy, I will vote for Lizzy.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:19 am**

Also I am starting to suspect Mongoose as a evil person.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:20 am**

and what about reywaS? He's missed almost all the votes. What's with that?

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:37 am**

McViper wrote:OK, I wnet back and looked at who voted Llama out. they were:
Lizzy, Andrew, Bullzeye , birdwithteeth11, A Person.

We know Bullzeye was bad. Of the above group I think Lizzy, A Person and Birdwithteeth are at the top of my list for being lynched

Mafia beat you to it! Birdswithteeth was NK'd. However, I agree that Lizzy and A Person are worth considering. I think its either Lizzy or Krissy though, and I am leaning more towrds Krissy at this point.

As we've discussed A Person being insanified means nothing froma civ vs. baddie perspective, but also means A Person cant defend against our accusations if targeted. Not sure what to do here.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:53 am**

Hedgeowl wrote:Yeah, going over Nev's actions he is off my list for a baddie right now. However, if we can't totally agree, I would support a Krissy or A Person lynch today.

Mongoose, you found the exchange with A Person illuminating in what way?

A Person seemed overly defensive perhaps? It's hard to articulate, but was just a feeling.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:55 am**

McViper wrote:Also I am starting to suspect Mongoose as a evil person.

Nah. But if I was evil, that's what you'd expect me to say.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:58 am**

She seems like a very pleasant person, but I feel she may have gotten wrapped up with a bad crowd. Therefore, I'm (relunctantly) voting Krissy.

Hopefully, I'm not wrong because she does seem like a lovely person.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:02 pm**

McViper wrote:and what about reywaS? He's missed almost all the votes. What's with that?

Well, Day 4 I wasn't allowed to vote. The other votes I missed were due to me losing track of the time/game. I'm not going to let it happen again.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:07 pm**

McViper wrote:
Nevinera wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Bullzeye has been decommissioned. He was Diesel 10.

It is now Night 4. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.
Wow! That is unexpected, but a big win.

I had already observed the bull-snow antagonism, so I feel like snow dog has to be pretty trustworthy now.
I mean, yeah they could have been faking that, but I really don't think bull would have put *so* much effort into that
argument if he were faking it. Given that, and snow's response, I feel pretty good about snow in general.

Since my main reason for suspecting viper was the double-vote with snow (sorry McV, I definitely wouldn't vote for you now),
I guess it's a good thing somebody rewrote the ballots! Good call, whoever you are, though I think I know ;-)

Voting for "Hey, Al Jazeera", because real journalism is old-fashioned and passe.
Oooh goind point RE: DP. That's cleared DP in my mind.

OK I'm thinking Nev is a baddie, based on how "sincere" his comment was above. He seems to be playing us. Also, I don't think DP is bad anymore. Bullzeye voted for him.

any thoughts?

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:08 pm**

My new stuff got mixed in with others' quotes above. The only thing I meant to add was "Oooh goind point RE: DP. That's cleared DP in my mind."

I'm not sure about Nev.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:14 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:
McViper wrote:OK, I wnet back and looked at who voted Llama out. they were:
Lizzy, Andrew, Bullzeye , birdwithteeth11, A Person.

We know Bullzeye was bad. Of the above group I think Lizzy, A Person and Birdwithteeth are at the top of my list for being lynched
Mafia beat you to it! Birdswithteeth was NK'd. However, I agree that Lizzy and A Person are worth considering. I think its either Lizzy or Krissy though, and I am leaning more towrds Krissy at this point.

As we've discussed A Person being insanified means nothing froma civ vs. baddie perspective, but also means A Person cant defend against our accusations if targeted. Not sure what to do here.

Not guilty by reason of insanity? It could work!

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:23 pm**

McViper wrote:and what about reywaS? He's missed almost all the votes. What's with that?

Yeah, it bothered me too.. but missing all the votes isn't particularly good baddie-strategy either, so I'm not really sure what I can read into it.

I have to go before things settle out, and I don't have strong feelings about anyone in particular.
I'm going to vote Lizzy. I actually think Krissy is more likely to be bad, but
if Lizzy flips bad, we'll have evidence that Krissy is not (because Lizzy voted Krissy in a near-conviction)
- the converse isn't true.

Out for the afternoon to celebrate paying off my mortgage :-D :-D :-D

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:49 pm**

Nevinera wrote:
McViper wrote:and what about reywaS? He's missed almost all the votes. What's with that?
Yeah, it bothered me too.. but missing all the votes isn't particularly good baddie-strategy either, so I'm not really sure what I can read into it.

I have to go before things settle out, and I don't have strong feelings about anyone in particular.
I'm going to vote Lizzy. I actually think Krissy is more likely to be bad, but
if Lizzy flips bad, we'll have evidence that Krissy is not (because Lizzy voted Krissy in a near-conviction)
- the converse isn't true.

Out for the afternoon to celebrate paying off my mortgage :-D :-D :-D

First of all, that's awesome you paid off your mortgage! What might you do to celebrate?

Thanks for the thoughts on Lizzy/Krissy. I feel like they are probably both not bad, but choosing between them was hard. Neither of them have said or done anything particularly red-flag inducing, but maybe that's all it is -- hanging just on the outskirts of a radar would be a good tactic if they were indeed dirty diesels.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:55 pm**

Thank you for those who care.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:58 pm**

A Person wrote:Thank you for those who care.

While I may not have understand one thing you've written this game, I do care. What are your thoughts on the latest elim?

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:06 pm**

Mongoose wrote:
A Person wrote:Thank you for those who care.

While I may not have understand one thing you've written this game, I do care. What are your thoughts on the latest elim?

I know, but now we have a little faith in the theory.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:29 pm**

I am going to follow the advice of Simon at last and vote Krissy.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:54 pm**

I think I'm gonna go with Krissy. Who knows, maybe Simon knew a little something.

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:30 pm**

Who is a Dirty Diesel?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:30 pm

A Person
0
No votes

Andrew
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
0
No votes

DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes

Lizzy
3
DharmaHelper (6), McViper (8), Nevinera (9)
25%

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

Krissy
5
Andrew (3), Mongoose (7), Snow Dog (10), DisgruntledPorcupine (11), Hedgeowl (12)
42%

McViper
0
No votes

Mongoose
0
No votes

Nevinera
0
No votes

reywaS
0
No votes

Snow Dog
0
No votes

The Others (Host, etc.)
4
Epignosis (1), MovingPictures07 (2), Grutfud Orangesprite (4), thellama73 (5)
33%

Posted: **Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:30 pm**

voted krissySeveral missing votes today.

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