Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:49 pm
DH did someone spike your coffee with cocaine today?
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
I've been increasingly and incredibly sick for like three days and I'm now in the stage of sickness thats allowed me to crank dat soldier boy.
Give me the tells you swanky teaseOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:32 pm It seems like only 1 person really would like to know the tells. I'm not sure if spoiling the tells are worth only one person's interest in them.
"Just saying stuff to say stuff." = Mafia.
The coffee tell :o
thx man, I expect my recruitment pm by night 3.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:37 pmI'll keep that in mind.sig wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:31 pmWell that's to bad. Buuuuut, if there is a cult I'm right here. Ready waiting and willing to be culted up.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:28 pmI have no idea what Mafia mac looks like, to be sure.sig wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:21 pmI see the case, but mafia mac usually looks like civ mac. I'm inclined not to lynch him today based off of that alone.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:56 am Yeah, looking at Mac's ISO doesn't make me not want to lynch him.
Also since I've not seen this asked, what're the chances of a cult? I know within Firefly lore you've got the reavers who could function as a cult, but this is a smaller game.
I doubt there will be a cult. Our host has clarified that there are three factions: Town, Mafia, and a Third Party. Cults are kinda game-breaky too.![]()
In context, Nutella's "Saying stuff to say stuff" is about Enrique giving 'scumhunty' positions in a 'player salad' manner, in other words, acting like he's contributing because he needs to look good.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:53 pm Nutella because in the process of me writing this post, she posted and tipped her hand a bit maybe:
"Just saying stuff to say stuff." = Mafia.
*incredibly cool backflip onto a stage filed with notes*
Seems like an awful lot of "saying stuff to say stuff" to me but what the hell do I know.Spoiler: show
I didn't say mafia; I said scum. And for those wondering usually, I count 3p as scum. But do you guys ever get friendly 3p over here?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:33 pm
Would I prefer someone who publicly said they saw at least two reasons I could be a mafia member to publicly explain those two reasons?
Why yes yes indeed I would very much so.
hmm, I seemed to have missed Sanggolden doing this too. But the Negan pictures could be a regular occurrence from DH so it could potentially be NAI. But then I still have to evaluate the use of Thanos.Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:52 pm DH is getting a fair number of votes as captain. He's gonna be all
No-one is gonna mutiny against that guy.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:21 pmMuch thanks to those who picked me to be a captain. I put my picks in. So far the only gut read I have is DDL wants to mutiny real bad so he can chill with one of the other three captains.
It looks like I overlooked this one. TH either sees himself as a good character or I could also see this as a teammate to teammate interaction where he's indirectly calling out his scum partner, that's never his intention, obviously though.
^Also, the coffee tell can sometimes be extended to other beverages.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:32 pmDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:33 pm Epi is only voting for people who have zero votes and being silent about it.
Why?![]()
I guess this picture would depend on whether or not Soko sees Trump as a bad guy. But at first glance, I guess Soko could maybe be with DH as well. I'll need to look at this one again. It seems I missed more pictures than my first thought.SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm DH! Hang on, I got ya buddy. I found this laying around somewhere... with the proper application of this red sharpie marker.... yup... got it!
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Regina George - Mean Girls another evil characterDharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:30 pmSokothQultuq wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm DH! Hang on, I got ya buddy. I found this laying around somewhere... with the proper application of this red sharpie marker.... yup... got it!
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to interpret this one.Sanggolden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:20 am
But look - I'm LEE Sanggolden, not KIM Sanggolden.
Daisy is Kim Kyungdaisy.
Again, same with this one. It's hard to make out.
Negan comes from Survivor mafia in which I adopted a very Negan-like approach to the game that *almost* worked, but did end up doing very well. All the other gifs/picutres (at least the ones you've posted that are *actually* me and not just you padding out the stat line) Are just ...Goofs? What did Golden say, NAI?Tell 1: The Picture/Gif Tell (can also sometimes be called the music tell, as I use it on both pictures and music. Yes, I have in fact caught scum this way before.
This one might be NAI. I think it would be stretch for me to read that as a partner getting replaced.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:10 amKyungDaisy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:04 am Dom has requested to be replaced, I’m working on that currently.
Not sure where the gif is from, but it seems like he looks to be taking things easy. I'm not sure if that's his regular town mindset or if it's a scum looking to coast this game. I'm not sure overall.
More Negan or possible fluffy interactions between potential teammates.
Unrelated to the tell, I kind of want to hear from Glorfindel about why they were reconsidering. Also, [mention]Glorfindel[/mention] what's your username on MU?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:31 pmGlorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:26 pmMhmmm...? Am currently reconsidering my vote for you then...?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:18 am The only thing I'm looking for in a crew is hard workers who pull their weight. That and loyalty.![]()
I'm interested in seeing why those trains are forming, and if there's any merit to them.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:01 pmWhy those 2? And why do you want to look at the others voting for them?
Something you may want to consider in the future is that generally when I say something there is a purpose to it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:16 pm I lied I lied I don't wanna know the tells please stop.
What's the second tell tho.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:24 pmSomething you may want to consider in the future is that generally when I say something there is a purpose to it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:16 pm I lied I lied I don't wanna know the tells please stop.
But why would my captain lie to me? Is it something I did wrong?![]()
You are not used people reading into fluff?
You said you lied and didn't want to know. Why should I say the second tell if you're gonna give me that kind of reaction?
I didn't want a wall of pictures, 60% of which didn't apply to me.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:28 pmYou said you lied and didn't want to know. Why should I say the second tell if you're gonna give me that kind of reaction?
90% of my game is fluff so read into it whatever you wantOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:27 pmYou are not used people reading into fluff?
Sorry, I didn't locate an ISO function so I'm skimming the thread for pictures and music.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:32 pmI didn't want a wall of pictures, 60% of which didn't apply to me.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:28 pmYou said you lied and didn't want to know. Why should I say the second tell if you're gonna give me that kind of reaction?
Good, it's more fun that way. :PTurnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:34 pm90% of my game is fluff so read into it whatever you wantOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:27 pmYou are not used people reading into fluff?![]()
Potentially DH not with DrWilgy, if DH is mafia.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:30 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:28 pmIt's 2019 and I don't give a fuck.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:19 pmYou're.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:16 pmSpeedchuck... your my friend.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:01 pm I see some captains preemptively talking about 'loyalty'. Bah humbug, the whole lot of that. I've changed my mind from earlier. I play to the highest, most interesting, and most fun captains. If I am not involved and enjoying myself, I will seek to jump ship.
Currently I'm very interested in jumping on TH's ship, but we'll see where things go.
That said, Mutiny should only be undertaken if we find the captain to be a scummer. Mutineers should bite it, for all I care.
As in you're in no position to judge who should be captain if you misuse "Your" in a sentence.
I respect your baseball bat more than your grammer fetish. Be a good cap'n m8.![]()
Another well placed Negan gif, but still why Negan and not some other gif. It seems like Negan is a culture thing here. Like Dizzy and I sometimes are with cats or music for me.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:56 pmdharmahelper hiring for Serenity,
@Enrique This is a formal request for you to join my crew.
Anyone else want to hop aboard?
I take it back, your ISO was cleaner than I thought and I’m not voting a new player D1 anyway
I did and it was bunk. Speed's answer was pretty on point. Also it's my birthday so buzz off.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:28 pm Nutella was here reading the thread mere minutes ago I wonder if she saw my suspicion of her. I hope so anyway.
Mostly, I was looking to quote the Thanos picture. But I found a Regina George one that I didn't see or remember seeing before so it worked out fine. But thanks, I might use it some. But I also like to read things in context if I can.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:37 pm ISOs are in the first post of the game @Owner of a Lonely Heart![]()
Happy birthday what does speed have to do with shit.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:40 pmI did and it was bunk. Speed's answer was pretty on point. Also it's my birthday so buzz off.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:28 pm Nutella was here reading the thread mere minutes ago I wonder if she saw my suspicion of her. I hope so anyway.
I was thinking Step Brothers, but yeah, I assumed it was in that genre. I've never been drunk before, and I guess those films tend to be more appealing to the male audience.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:41 pm Btw my gif is from The Hangover, which is basically a modern classic [first film only]
Oh nvm it got eaten by Owner's fun happy go time.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:03 pmIn context, Nutella's "Saying stuff to say stuff" is about Enrique giving 'scumhunty' positions in a 'player salad' manner, in other words, acting like he's contributing because he needs to look good.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:53 pm Nutella because in the process of me writing this post, she posted and tipped her hand a bit maybe:
"Just saying stuff to say stuff." = Mafia.
*incredibly cool backflip onto a stage filed with notes*
Seems like an awful lot of "saying stuff to say stuff" to me but what the hell do I know.Spoiler: show
Your quoted nutella posts are fluffy, but fluff is not what she was talking about. There is no fake substantiality to Nutella's quoted posts there, which is what Enrique is accused of.
If you’ve never been drunk before then it’s a good thing you’re not on the plane with me, TH and EpiOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:42 pmI was thinking Step Brothers, but yeah, I assumed it was in that genre. I've never been drunk before, and I guess those films tend to be more appealing to the male audience.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:41 pm Btw my gif is from The Hangover, which is basically a modern classic [first film only]
Because I haven't had the time to read you specifically yet.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:44 pm DH, why are DDL and Nut suspects for voicing the same suspicion I did in a similar manner, but I’m not? I can see a scum piggy backing on any potential wagon so long as they don’t have to stick their neck out too far but we three pretty much seem to be saying the same thing, so why do I get a pass?
Oh boy we gon partyColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:45 pmIf you’ve never been drunk before then it’s a good thing you’re not on the plane with me, TH and EpiOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:42 pmI was thinking Step Brothers, but yeah, I assumed it was in that genre. I've never been drunk before, and I guess those films tend to be more appealing to the male audience.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:41 pm Btw my gif is from The Hangover, which is basically a modern classic [first film only]
In hunkering down and reading Colin I've noted that apart from "Enrique bad" he tends to waffle on who he suspects and trusts. A weak Enrique vote and a sporadic nature don't ring civ to me, necessarily but I do suspect the people following such a dumb case more than the guy who made it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:46 pmBecause I haven't had the time to read you specifically yet.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:44 pm DH, why are DDL and Nut suspects for voicing the same suspicion I did in a similar manner, but I’m not? I can see a scum piggy backing on any potential wagon so long as they don’t have to stick their neck out too far but we three pretty much seem to be saying the same thing, so why do I get a pass?
Sanggolden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:47 am @Kyungdaisy
Will lynched people have their role and affiliation revealed?
Will nightkilled people have their role and affiliation revealed?
How many mafia teams are there?
Sanggolden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:14 pm Also, I've been assuming everyone is vanilla - is this not the case?
It doesn't expressly say I'm vanilla on my role card, looking at it again. But it doesn't give me a role power either, just an occupation and a skill that doesn't mean much to me (I assume it will when we get a job). I was perhaps incorrectly assuming everyone was the same. Am I wrong?
you're*
your rightnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:25 am1) Oh, you danced around it all right. I engaged your suspicions twice, and you've asked me questions every time. You dropped it every time afterwards. I can't do anything more than that.Sanggolden wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 am That’s a big load of baloney right there, nova.
1) I danced around nothing. I’ve been direct about what I’ve been seeing. It’s your choice whether to engage in my suspicions of you or not, I don’t have to ask a specific question of you or @mention you to get your attention. That’s a completely arbitrary standard you’ve decided to apply, just to paint me as not genuine.
2) The motivation is clear to me - to control who is on what crew, who’s available for a nk, who’s available for a lynch. I’m far less controllable. If I pick an entirely town crew, and prevent them being lynched, then I get a strong advantage over the mafia. If I pick well, I can effectively prevent myself being nked.
3) You say you saw it coming... I could tell. That’s why you came at me the way you did to begin with. I called you out and instead of addressing my suspicion, you went as hominem - going after my choice of grammar instead of the accusation. There’s nothing much to your reasoning for your votes. Your turn on me was because apparently you liked me early and liked me less later, but you didn’t manage to give a single reason for either of those things. You’ve been waiting for me to vote before you do much of anything, just so you can defend the vote instead of actually engaging in the original suspicion too deeply.
Your response post then is trying to make out like my logic doesn’t track when you’re all over the place.
I particularly like this sentence from yo: “you’re getting too hung up on the captain votes, when I don’t think it should be a priority.” Of course you wouldn’t think it should be a priority if you’re reading it down. But I hate that deeply. If you don’t think the mafia tried to manipulate that vote in some way... we’ll i just don’t believe you.
Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.
As for me wanting to be captain - on that one, at least, I’ll admit it’s NAI. I’d want it either way. But I wanted it here because of how badly day zero reeked of manipulation.
2) Nice then riddle me this, why did I not break the tie between you and Glorfindel if you think me and my team were dreading having you as captain? While you're at it, elaborate on my motivation on voting you first, then voting for people with no votes, and finally going with 3 of the 5 tied.
I agree that it's weird but I don't agree that it is suspicious/bad. I think you're being pretty opportunistic trying to paint it as such, that's why I saw this coming after your 2 mentions of my votes.
3) Is explaining my thought process on how I voted, not addressing your suspicions? I would think that is one way to ease them, since you think there are ulterior motives behind them. Nah, I'm not going after your choice of grammar, you're just full of it.
I never said the Mafia never had tried to manipulate the votes, nor elect one of theirs. I said that what I did was in no way some grandiose manipulation, as you'd like to paint it. I think it's pretty dumb to think so.
Lol, yeah sure. The Day Zero mafia manipulation of captain votes, and Nova the bold. Thank god you're here to save us from it.
You may be on to something.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:06 pm DharmaHelper has used multiple Negan pictures.
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:06 pm Subconsciously, I feel like people post pictures of villains see themselves as being the bad guys themselves.
If the case I have on Enrique is dumb, how dumb is Enrique’s case on me?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:56 pmIn hunkering down and reading Colin I've noted that apart from "Enrique bad" he tends to waffle on who he suspects and trusts. A weak Enrique vote and a sporadic nature don't ring civ to me, necessarily but I do suspect the people following such a dumb case more than the guy who made it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:46 pmBecause I haven't had the time to read you specifically yet.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:44 pm DH, why are DDL and Nut suspects for voicing the same suspicion I did in a similar manner, but I’m not? I can see a scum piggy backing on any potential wagon so long as they don’t have to stick their neck out too far but we three pretty much seem to be saying the same thing, so why do I get a pass?
I straight up voted Golden out of the tie and he hasn't come after me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:36 am The thing that ruins this for me is that I also did roughly the same thing nova did, but I ended up changing my vote so that's okay I guess