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Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}

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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:06 am
by Turnip Head
No one wants the flamethrower? :scared:

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:13 am
by speedchuck
I will gladly take the flamethrower today

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:38 am
by DharmaHelper
I wouldn't mind having it back. But if new blood wants it I'll vote accordingly.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:54 am
by novaselinenever
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:06 am No one wants the flamethrower? :scared:
I want it :noble:

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am
by novaselinenever
Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:31 am
by Turnip Head
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
To be fair I think yesterday was pretty normal. Sprityo got 5 votes and I didn't accidentally set the whole world on fire.

I was gonna endorse you tho

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:38 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
I'm voting Quin. I wanna see what he can do with his rage.

I mean we are losing here so might as well call godzilla.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:04 pm
by novaselinenever
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:31 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
To be fair I think yesterday was pretty normal. Sprityo got 5 votes and I didn't accidentally set the whole world on fire.

I was gonna endorse you tho
Oh yeah not saying you went off on your own lol. It's just that I think without it being clearly said, the discussions and lynch wagons won't be 100% normal. There is always that feeling that only one person hold all the power and has the final say. Stating that the lynch poll will decide who gets burned might be a good thing and get more real wagons and discussions.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:33 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
The flamethrower thing will be way more important in the endgame.

Right now... it's mostly a technicality

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:55 pm
by Elohcin
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:12 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:08 am I think the focus needs to shift. I think y'all truat those you shouldn't.
Such as?
We have 10 players and have yet to catch a bad guy. I am thinking DH and INH for now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
I agree with this. I will vote for nova to get it.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:14 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:12 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:08 am I think the focus needs to shift. I think y'all truat those you shouldn't.
Such as?
We have 10 players and have yet to catch a bad guy. I am thinking DH and INH for now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
I agree with this. I will vote for nova to get it.
What does one have to do with the other?

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:19 pm
by Elohcin
just saying...we are losing all civs and the ratio of baddies to civs keeps getting greater.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:19 pm just saying...we are losing all civs and the ratio of baddies to civs keeps getting greater.
Yeah but what does that have to do with me.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:33 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Give me the flame thrower. I know what to do with it.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:38 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:06 pm
by Elohcin
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:19 pm just saying...we are losing all civs and the ratio of baddies to civs keeps getting greater.
Yeah but what does that have to do with me.
If you are trying to find them, then you should be concerned.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:12 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:06 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:19 pm just saying...we are losing all civs and the ratio of baddies to civs keeps getting greater.
Yeah but what does that have to do with me.
If you are trying to find them, then you should be concerned.
I guess what I've been trying to ask for 3 posts is why did you say "I am thinking DH and INH for now"

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm
by Elohcin
Say what you mean and mean what you say.

The way you are playing and gaining the trust of others makes me squeemish. I am afraid you are tricking us all and it isn't even halloween yet.

INH never cares enough about a game to post as much as he has this game.

By process of elimination and the ideas above, you and INH are my top suspects.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:20 pm
by Elohcin
I guess if I had to pick a third, it would be Jack. He seems to be sliding by.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:22 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm Say what you mean and mean what you say.

The way you are playing and gaining the trust of others makes me squeemish. I am afraid you are tricking us all and it isn't even halloween yet.

INH never cares enough about a game to post as much as he has this game.

By process of elimination and the ideas above, you and INH are my top suspects.
I did say what I meant, you just took 3 posts to move past "Baddies should be lynched". :shrug:

What do you mean "the way I am playing"? What went into your "process of elimination"..

Seems incredibly vague to me but hell. What do I know.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:04 pm
by Quin
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm INH never cares enough about a game to post as much as he has this game.
inh has 16 posts

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:41 pm
by Elohcin
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm INH never cares enough about a game to post as much as he has this game.
inh has 16 posts
it was his content.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:45 pm
by Quin
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:41 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm INH never cares enough about a game to post as much as he has this game.
inh has 16 posts
it was his content.
in what way? which posts?

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 pm
by Elohcin
I realize I'm reaching here, but I'm going on what I have. What I know of INH and playing mafia is that he usually doesn't care so much to make cases or make more on-topic than off-topic posts as he has this game. If INH is that serious at looking civ, it makes me wonder.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:21 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 pm I realize I'm reaching here, but I'm going on what I have. What I know of INH and playing mafia is that he usually doesn't care so much to make cases or make more on-topic than off-topic posts as he has this game. If INH is that serious at looking civ, it makes me wonder.

Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:30 pm
by G-Man
ARCHIVE RECORDING NO.8

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Novaselinenever is dead. He was human.

It is now Day 4.

You have 24 hours to vote.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:34 pm
by G-Man
The lynch polls thread has been updated.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:30 pm
by Turnip Head
RIP Nova

It would seem that Jack has the flamethrower :smoky:

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:39 pm
by DharmaHelper
I'll do some crunch time tomorrow. RIP Nova in the meantime and congratulations to Jack.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:23 pm
by insertnamehere
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 pm I realize I'm reaching here, but I'm going on what I have. What I know of INH and playing mafia is that he usually doesn't care so much to make cases or make more on-topic than off-topic posts as he has this game. If INH is that serious at looking civ, it makes me wonder.
I keep reading this post over and over again, and it just keeps not making sense.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:18 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:20 pm I guess if I had to pick a third, it would be Jack. He seems to be sliding by.
Ugh but you probably believe this.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:21 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:30 pm RIP Nova

It would seem that Jack has the flamethrower :smoky:
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:22 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Who voted for me and who voted for someone else?

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:26 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Guess I gotta read the rest of those pages huh? :grin:

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:38 am
by Turnip Head
Well a few of us stated we were voting for Nova and then he died and Jack got the power. This seems like a teachable moment.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:44 am
by Turnip Head
Colin's exercise yesterday rubbed me the wrong way so I'm looking his way atm. idk if he'd kill the person he was planning on tunneling tho, seems counterproductive

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:45 am
by ColinIsCool
I voted Eloh, I like the cut of her jib.

I strongly suspect we’re being bamboozled by a consensus townread. They were the target on N1, and they are bad. DH or Speed or Jack.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:46 am
by ColinIsCool
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:44 am Colin's exercise yesterday rubbed me the wrong way so I'm looking his way atm. idk if he'd kill the person he was planning on tunneling tho, seems counterproductive
Why did it rub you the wrong way?

And, yeah, I wouldn’t do that.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:56 am
by DharmaHelper
If anything a nova kill means to me that Colin did not have the kill last night. Whether he had or will have it other nights I dunno, but it strikes me as false that he would kill Nova in particular.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:59 am
by speedchuck
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:22 am Who voted for me and who voted for someone else?
I voted for you.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:03 am
by DharmaHelper
I voted Jack as well, on account of our shared love for gifs and character acting.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:28 am
by ColinIsCool
Looking at the two nightkills so far ... they don’t make much sense to me. Poutanko was new and Nova had not done anything to become a top townleader. It’s almost as if the killers are choosing targets with the goal of finding their teammates? Which begs the question as to why a player like Jack, Speed or DH haven’t been targeted yet. Unless they have.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:32 am
by DharmaHelper
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:28 am Looking at the two nightkills so far ... they don’t make much sense to me. Poutanko was new and Nova had not done anything to become a top townleader. It’s almost as if the killers are choosing targets with the goal of finding their teammates? Which begs the question as to why a player like Jack, Speed or DH haven’t been targeted yet. Unless they have.
If I'd been targeted for a kill I'dve died, so it ain't me fam.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:45 am
by speedchuck
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:32 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:28 am Looking at the two nightkills so far ... they don’t make much sense to me. Poutanko was new and Nova had not done anything to become a top townleader. It’s almost as if the killers are choosing targets with the goal of finding their teammates? Which begs the question as to why a player like Jack, Speed or DH haven’t been targeted yet. Unless they have.
If I'd been targeted for a kill I'dve died, so it ain't me fam.
Why do you even have me and Jack on this list, Colin? Jack hasn't even read the whole game and I'm not exactly supahtowning.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:07 am
by DharmaHelper
Guys please can we not draw kills onto me for trying to win this game instead of meme-ing I'm gonna have a cry

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:10 pm
by DharmaHelper
Gonna put together a current read list here in a second. Just let me shake off my uncontrollable suffering at not being able to play RDR2

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:43 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:59 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:22 am Who voted for me and who voted for someone else?
I voted for you.
Why? I'm at the bottom of your rainbow list and you're aware I haven't read the whole game.

Wouldn't I be a terrible person to give a flamethrower to?

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:46 pm
by DharmaHelper
Spoiler: show
Colin -
I dunno if this read list is a joke or not since it lists everyone as "Good" technically, but if its not, voting to give the flamethrower to Eloh (a middle read of his) over someone higher on the list is noteworthy. As is his post here Parroting Eloh's claim/theory that a "consensus" townread is fooling the thread. He names me, Speed and Jack as the possibles, but as Speed has pointed out, he and Jack aren't really "consensus" town-reads, if town-reads at all, and he and Jack haven't really pushed anything or tried to fool anyone. He also originally posited that the non-kill was an inactive.

His "who would you kill" exercise is also something to look at. He said he'd hold off on answering and didn't.

I've never really felt great about town-reading Colin and his recent stuff hasn't nudged me out of that mentality.

DDL -
Voted to give Quin the flamethrower, townreading Quin based on his recent uptick in activity it looks like. He has either town-read or "un-readable" status on most players, with Sprityo sitting at "too-scummy-to-be-scum" status and being the closest thing DDL has to a suspect ATM. Stepping on eggshells, me no like.

Eloh -
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, I think Eloh's most recent cases (Me and INH) hold no water. She was very vague about her suspicion of me ("how you're playing. POE") which felt like she was just using buzzwords to make it seem more than it was. "Process of elimination" in particular. Like, Good luck using POE in this set up lol. And the INH thing falls apart at close inspection. She says she didn't expect him to be this active (The only reason he's not the least active poster is because Wilgy signed up, told himself not to forget to play this game, and then I guess got invited to travel through Space and Time with the Doctor) Then she called out the "content" of his posts, and said here that INH is "serious at looking civ" which I highlighted earlier but will comment on now. Why does he have to be trying to "look" civ? Can't he just be...civ? Eloh's framing of the question there might have let slip the mask a bit.

INH -
Funnily enough since his decent case on Colin which was posted last Sunday, INH hasn't really done much "content"-wise. Sticking to his guns RE: Colin, asking for more from TH and questioning Chuck on his Quin townread. I don't think INH is bad at this point. Though if Eloh's criticism of his game starts to color his activity/presence, I'll revisit a read on him.

Jack -
A moot point for today but I'm still null on Jack, which isn't great 4 Days into a game I guess, but not much I can do about it for now. We'll see how he handles the spotlight, if he puts out any reads, gives any directions, goes with the flow, etc.

Quin -
Moderate uptick in activity. Still not feeling great about his early game. Wanna see him put some beef in the broth before I move the needle out of the red on this boi. He's being town-read by people though which I will consider, but I can't shake what I can't shake. Ehm.

Chuck -
Again rough that there's not much to update on this read but them's the brakes. Wish he'd expand on his "colorless rainbow". Moving on.

TH: -
Reading back it seems like he was dead-set on Sprityo for a long time there whilst he had the Sizzler. Could be because nobody gave him anything else to work with, but it could be he just saw Sprityo as an easy out and didn't want to look at anyone else, whether he was asked/shown or not. Shifting TH slightly into the red for D3.
I've been considering for a hot minute how in-thread behavior would shift or change or make itself evidence if/once infected targeted each other and from my reads I think I see two likely pairs

- DDL/Quin
- Colin/Eloh


DDL has been soft-as-a-baby-bottom defending/townreading Quin for a hot minute. And Colin's lockstep with Eloh's "we been fooled" play skews a bit when you look at his read list there.

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:48 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I'm probably not gonna burn Colin. Generally getting a townie vibe there. Like he's trying for sure.

My first couple pages gave me a strong townread on Quin but he hasn't been as present lately.

There's only 10 of us. What's balanced? 3 or 4 scum? This is a stupid question for Day 4 but....does the mafia win when they get parity? Or when they eliminate the civies? That is, can the mafia win by having 4 townies and 4 scum if they don't know who the other scum players are?

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:49 pm
by speedchuck
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:43 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:59 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:22 am Who voted for me and who voted for someone else?
I voted for you.
Why? I'm at the bottom of your rainbow list and you're aware I haven't read the whole game.

Wouldn't I be a terrible person to give a flamethrower to?
1. You said you knew what to do with it.
2. If I had colored that rainbow, you'd have been yellow. Only the two under you are scumreads of mine at the moment, which is a problem of its own.
3. If I read you as scum, I might consider giving you the flamethrower anyway. Could learn a lot about who you are and who your teammates might be by the way you handle it. (all things considered, scum are as blind as we are in some cases. Sometimes not. Either way it would be interesting to see how they handle the firecannon)

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