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Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm
by nutella
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm Here’s a feeling:

Nutes said she was gonna chill and talk and then promptly ignored me and that makes me sad
well you stopped being fun :<

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm
by Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm Here’s a feeling:

Nutes said she was gonna chill and talk and then promptly ignored me and that makes me sad
Lynch all liars.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:55 pm
by nutella
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm I think Rej is fitting what little I understand of his town meta. Drago I haven't seen enough from yet to feel strongly about.
I feel like i have seen more proactive version of Dragomir in previous games. But that includes Day 1 of Inception, when he was mafia.
True.

I might hop on just for funsies/so that my vote matters more than it does now and bc I don't really see a reason for Dom to be lynched

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm
by boo
Hmm, [VOTE: Drago] aubergine to see what that does real quick.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm Here’s a feeling:

Nutes said she was gonna chill and talk and then promptly ignored me and that makes me sad
well you stopped being fun :<
Two way street!

Ok, we can be fun, whadda ya want to talk about homeslice

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm
by nutella
Dare I make the tie?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm
by nutella
I wish Hyena were here. Now he's fun

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm
by ColinIsCool
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm Dare I make the tie?
It would be the most fun option!

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm
by nutella
Channel the spirit of the Hyena. Make the tie.

[VOTE: dragomir] aubergine

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm
by Sloonei
I have never played with Rej. I am less inclined to vote for him because I don't really know what to expect when I look at his posts. I would like him to answer some things if he's alive tomorrow.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
WOW OK RUDE AF TBH


(I wish he was here too I like that guy

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm
by nutella
Hey guys remember last time Drago was tied on d1 lol wasn't that a fun time for everyone involved hee hee.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:58 pm
by Sloonei
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm Hmm, [VOTE: Drago] aubergine to see what that does real quick.
How does it feel?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:58 pm
by ColinIsCool
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm Hey guys remember last time Drago was tied on d1 lol wasn't that a fun time for everyone involved hee hee.
So town loses after nabbing the strongest scum role D1, got it.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:59 pm
by nutella
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:58 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm Hey guys remember last time Drago was tied on d1 lol wasn't that a fun time for everyone involved hee hee.
So town loses after nabbing the strongest scum role D1, got it.
Shit u rite

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:00 pm
by Sloonei
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:58 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm Hey guys remember last time Drago was tied on d1 lol wasn't that a fun time for everyone involved hee hee.
So town loses after nabbing the strongest scum role D1, got it.
Don't worry, that won't happen for another two months.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:00 pm
by boo
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:58 pm
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm Hmm, [VOTE: Drago] aubergine to see what that does real quick.
How does it feel?
Meh, I'll give it another minute to see if it shakes anyone out of hiding.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:02 pm
by Long Con
Should I switch to Drago or let it rand? Or will it even be a tie in two minutes?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:03 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Rand is bad break the tie you cowards

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:03 pm
by Sloonei
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:02 pm Should I switch to Drago or let it rand? Or will it even be a tie in two minutes?
I do not like ties, but it is your call.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:04 pm
by ColinIsCool
I’m at peace with this, in case any of you were worried about me.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:28 pm
by novaselinenever
Day 1 poll
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Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:44 pm
by novaselinenever
[mention]Dragomir[/mention] [Pryzbylewski] has been lynched.
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You are Prez!
“Shit, I’m married. With lawn furniture, man.”

[The Wire] - Secret.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to Town


Night 1 starts. You have 23 hours to submit your actions (if any).

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:51 pm
by boo
Well that's not great. That was probably our rolechecker?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:53 pm
by nutella
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:51 pm Well that's not great. That was probably our rolechecker?
I don't remember enough about the character to assume that, but since it's secret I'm guessing it's something a bit complex/weird

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] just want to check we're allowed to talk during night phase, you haven't locked so I assume yes

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:56 pm
by boo
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:53 pm
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:51 pm Well that's not great. That was probably our rolechecker?
I don't remember enough about the character to assume that, but since it's secret I'm guessing it's something a bit complex/weird

@novaselinenever just want to check we're allowed to talk during night phase, you haven't locked so I assume yes
Rules say it stays open at night.

Prez is the one who actually ran the wire in s1 and did a lot of figuring shit out. I kind of think (based on the language in the rules about how it will all be handled), all role powers will be hidden like that on death.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:57 pm
by nutella
hm ok

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:01 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Well this is new.

This is new for me and I don’t like new things so I’m not going to participate, k baiiiiiii

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:01 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
(I will still meme tho)

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:06 pm
by novaselinenever
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:53 pm @novaselinenever just want to check we're allowed to talk during night phase, you haven't locked so I assume yes
Yep yep

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:53 am
by speedchuck
Mm.

I'll talk tomorrow. I'm disappointed, but hey, ties are juicy hopefully.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:03 am
by Dom
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:02 pm The bulk of Dom's focus has been on Jack and nutella so far. His vote is currently on Jack. This poked piqued my interest:
Dom wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:02 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:35 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:18 pm
Nutella has said pretty much nothing this game.

But she's used a lot of players' names. :shrug:
Bro I have the second most posts in the game and most of them are content. I've definitely given more reads than you have. You haven't even explained your vote for me lol.

Usually when you go after me like this you're town... but I thought something had changed the last couple times we were town together, and then last game we were scum buddies so you saw my shitty scum game up close. So you should know better by now. Find another way to stir things up, maybe talk about someone other than me for once.
WARNING! This post contains:
--Gambler's Fallacy
--Appeal to Emotion
--Assumption of The Future Being Like the Past
--Bullshit

@nutella is @Jackofhearts2005 full of shit?
Does the combination of Gambler's Fallacy, Appeal to Emotion, Assumptions of Chronology, and Bullshit indicate that nutella is bad in this instance? Could you more directly articulate why Jack is full of poop?
Are there any other names you'd like to talk about, Dom?
Did I vote nutella?

Yeah. I do. Especially after reading the bullshit that was the EOD.
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:29 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:10 pm
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:54 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:13 pm
sig wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:57 pm ...Dom doesn't seem outside his normal civ meta.
Is that really true though?

Take a look at Dom's ISO in Girl Genius. He was Civ, I think the "main" Civ? I think the differences are pretty striking.
The D1 differences? Browsing that, it doesn't read that different to me. Do you have any specifically damning differences in mind?
In this game, the bulk of his posts are about calling things bullshit and firing off mirroring questions with no evidence of caring about the answers. In Girl Genius, he was more interactive, gave reads, agreed or disagreed with people, and said things like "It matters that you have avoided answering direct questions."

Did anyone avoid answering his direct questions in this game? Can you tell if he even cares?
Ah. Tbh, Dom in general reads bad to me. I agree with you about how he comes across in this game, I just don't find the other game to be that different, or his game in general to be that different at the start of the game. It's when he gets quiet though, that I found he tends to actually be bad. And that I don't really see here so I'm undecided on if I want to vote for him. Be helpful if he were around to respond to stuff directly.
This is wildly outdated.
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:54 pm I could go either way on Dom tbh. I don’t think he looks any different than what I’ve seen as town at least in an early state but it is true that everything he’s posted is easy to fake.
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boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:54 pm Oh, it's old. But Dom has been playing for what, half his life?
How the hell old do you think I am at this point? :p
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:54 pm I could go either way on Dom tbh. I don’t think he looks any different than what I’ve seen as town at least in an early state but it is true that everything he’s posted is easy to fake.
this is about where I'm at. Dom seems to be pretty much his usual self but he is decent at faking it when scum so I don't feel strongly about him either way.
A fence has been sat upon.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:11 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
What’s important isn’t whether a fence was sat upon or not, but whether the fence consented to be sat upon. After all, who are we to condemn a fence’s taste?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:46 am
by MacDougall
I can't believe we lynched Dragomir!?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:01 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
[checks thread]

Where the hell did this drago lynch even come from?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:04 am
by Dom
I think that the Drago lynch was borne out of fear of my mislynch.

I am civ. LC is wrong. I was surprised to see how lazy people were with their vote.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:29 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm If I’m gonna be serious for a minute, I just don’t have high confidence reads rn. If you want me to RNG some I can do that, but if I presented anything as high confidence I’d be lying.
I don't need or want high confidence reads. Hell, I don't even need reads. I just like to know what people are thinking about each other.
What you think about someone in a game related sense is a read, yeah?
I suppose. But what I mean is I don't need you to say "I think nova is town/scum." I'm just looking for "nova did these things and I felt something about it." If you can turn that into a definitive stance, groovy. If not, it's still enough to work with.
The fact Sloonei is using nova as an example here means he is scared of being interpreted as suspecting someone he is not suspecting. Which suggests he is very conscious of how others are perceiving his alignment.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 am
by Dom
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:29 am
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm If I’m gonna be serious for a minute, I just don’t have high confidence reads rn. If you want me to RNG some I can do that, but if I presented anything as high confidence I’d be lying.
I don't need or want high confidence reads. Hell, I don't even need reads. I just like to know what people are thinking about each other.
What you think about someone in a game related sense is a read, yeah?
I suppose. But what I mean is I don't need you to say "I think nova is town/scum." I'm just looking for "nova did these things and I felt something about it." If you can turn that into a definitive stance, groovy. If not, it's still enough to work with.
The fact Sloonei is using nova as an example here means he is scared of being interpreted as suspecting someone he is not suspecting. Which suggests he is very conscious of how others are perceiving his alignment.
Can you explain this again? I read this thrice and I'm not sure what you mean.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:39 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm I think Rej is fitting what little I understand of his town meta. Drago I haven't seen enough from yet to feel strongly about.
I feel like i have seen more proactive version of Dragomir in previous games. But that includes Day 1 of Inception, when he was mafia.
True.

I might hop on just for funsies/so that my vote matters more than it does now and bc I don't really see a reason for Dom to be lynched
That sounds like a weak motivation to jump on the drago wagon which you also don't feel strongly about.

If I couldn't see the poll as I'm making this catch up I would get no indication that you suspect drago more than Dom. Or that you suspect dragon enough to give up on the speed thing you were pushing before.

Sorry, the speed thing you were moaning about before. Because the only thing you did about it was vote speed early on poorly explained grounds when spend the whole day crying "why you aren't voting speed with meeee" to people.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:40 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm Hmm, [VOTE: Drago] aubergine to see what that does real quick.
This vote is so bad I wanna confiscate the tinfoil hat from your avatar.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:44 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Dom wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:29 am
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm If I’m gonna be serious for a minute, I just don’t have high confidence reads rn. If you want me to RNG some I can do that, but if I presented anything as high confidence I’d be lying.
I don't need or want high confidence reads. Hell, I don't even need reads. I just like to know what people are thinking about each other.
What you think about someone in a game related sense is a read, yeah?
I suppose. But what I mean is I don't need you to say "I think nova is town/scum." I'm just looking for "nova did these things and I felt something about it." If you can turn that into a definitive stance, groovy. If not, it's still enough to work with.
The fact Sloonei is using nova as an example here means he is scared of being interpreted as suspecting someone he is not suspecting. Which suggests he is very conscious of how others are perceiving his alignment.
Can you explain this again? I read this thrice and I'm not sure what you mean.
Eh just a tinfoil. Sloonei used nova here because nova is the host so he doesn't wanna look like he is suspecting soneone. Which might cause an argument. Sloonei trying to avoid an argument could mean bad sloonei.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:46 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
nutella wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:57 pm Channel the spirit of the Hyena. Make the tie.

[VOTE: dragomir] aubergine
You're bad.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:39 am
by Rej
Wtf...daychat during night. So meh.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:54 am
by boo
[mention]Dom[/mention] Fair enough for the outdatedness.

And you're... 24/5? You're a bit younger than I am, iirc? And my first game was Scary Movie on LP and that was 2010, and at that point mafia had already been being played there for at least a year or two, right? That's not super far from half?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:59 am
by boo
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:40 am
boo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 pm Hmm, [VOTE: Drago] aubergine to see what that does real quick.
This vote is so bad I wanna confiscate the tinfoil hat from your avatar.
Yea, I didn't like making it much, but I expected... something to happen. LA following the vote to cause the tie I figured, but then I thought someone would break and change it to 6-4 and I wanted to see who that would be. Since that didn't happen, I think I'm back to looking at Sloonei when D2 starts. Depends on how the night goes though.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:05 am
by Long Con
Rej wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:39 am Wtf...daychat during night. So meh.
You'e not obligated to post. At least 95% of the games I have played over my long Mafia career have not closed the thread at night.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:08 am
by Creature
Oh well we mislynched

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:08 am
by Creature
Shame on you all

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:39 am
by Dragomir
Not fun waking up to see that you're dead :disappoint:

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:44 am
by speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:01 am [checks thread]

Where the hell did this drago lynch even come from?
I was gone for a while and have no idea where the Dom lynch came from either. He wasn't a suspect of mine, at least. I'll have to read over it today or tomorrow.