The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 3:38 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:26 pm Sloonei who's mafia?

Daisy is guess #1. I do not have a solid guess #2 at the moment. Ted is town, mac is town. I think myo is town. I'm not actively scum reading nanook and nutella, but I'm more hesitant to award them the same credit as I do Mac for yesterday's lynch. You look how you're supposed to look right now. soneji was the biggest consensus suspect during the day yesterday, but I didn't feel great about that case.

Of the players I haven't named yet, sig and motobot would be the two I'd remove from the lynch pool first, but that's not something I'm fully prepared to do. I think that leaves LC and jiwon.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:03 pm**

Hey guys

linki

Just wanted to say that

oh, linki

Well I'm thinking this thing is

LINKI

moving at an incredible pace

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trying my best to keep up

FKNG LINKI

let me possssssttttttttttttttttttt

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:05 pm**

Seriously, I'm on board with Spacedaisy as the top suspect. I'm still resting my brain after the qualifier, so forgive me while I just follow Mactellanook's lead for the time being.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:15 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:05 pm Seriously, I'm on board with Spacedaisy as the top suspect. I'm still resting my brain after the qualifier, so forgive me while I just follow Mactellanook's lead for the time being.

But... spacedaisy was my suspect!

The best way to motivate me is to bruise my ego.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:04 pm**

I am also agreeing with the Spacedaisy suspicion.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:15 pm**

More than 23 hours has expired. Locking for now.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:16 pm**

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:33 pm**

The Lanius are a deadly race, such that they suck oxygen out of the vicinity.

There is no oxygen for them to deplete in a deep space grave.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME has been destroyed. Nanook piloted The Lanius Cruiser.

Spoiler: show

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:37 pm**

Continue.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:48 pm**

Bitches Go.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:48 pm**

Commence.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:49 pm**

[VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:02 pm**

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] where you at

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:18 pm**

RIP Nanook. What happens to his scrap? Maybe the people who voted Nanook for scrap are suspicious. Maybe baddies vote scrap for each other. Not when there's three Big Swinging Dicks in the room though. What was the final tally? I should look.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:19 pm**

One for Sloonei, one for tedxtr. There's your baddies. In Simpleville. Probs not Simpleville.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:20 pm**

Are scrap votes worthwhile to analyze? Maybe not in this situation. But that's my two ways. Nanook voters, or the two off-the-Grand-Townclear-train voters. JJJ is the other Nanook voter. Is he bad?

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 pm**

Someone bought Teleportation from the Store. It roleblocks. Someone's gonna be roleblocking each turn and knowing who isn't killing. This is good, even though they can't infodrop. Let's be aware of any funny feelings in that direction... ah the nebulous line of infodropping. Sometimes, one is just 100% sure of things and darned if I can't see why!

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:31 pm**

Another game, another death before LYLO. Good luck good luck.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm**

Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)

Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.

Clone Bay: Gain permanent BTSC with the pilot of one of the destroyed ships. (7 scrap)

This could become very useful, if we believe that the dead player might have had info.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:15 pm**

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:34 pm**

Thibk the main thing about items is civs need to grab ones on their own that mafia will want. We want to concentrate any vote boosts away from them for instance and potentially the vote manipulations/blocking

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.

It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:37 pm**

Myo wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.

It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.

Ah, wait no, nevermind. I misread the item description. I though it was a puppeting action, but it is one degree removed pupetting.That doesn't actually work then.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:46 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:18 pm RIP Nanook. What happens to his scrap? Maybe the people who voted Nanook for scrap are suspicious. Maybe baddies vote scrap for each other. Not when there's three Big Swinging Dicks in the room though. What was the final tally? I should look.

Bro didn't you vote for Nanook lol

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:49 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 pm Someone bought Teleportation from the Store. It roleblocks. Someone's gonna be roleblocking each turn and knowing who isn't killing. This is good, even though they can't infodrop. Let's be aware of any funny feelings in that direction... ah the nebulous line of infodropping. Sometimes, one is just 100% sure of things and darned if I can't see why!

You've got a lot of nervous energy

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:52 pm**

Myo wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.

It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.

That's a spicy idea hm. And yeah I'd assume any target-affecting abilities would affect that kill, that seems like a given

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:52 pm**

Myo wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:37 pm
Myo wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.

It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
Ah, wait no, nevermind. I misread the item description. I though it was a puppeting action, but it is one degree removed pupetting.That doesn't actually work then.

I don't follow?

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:57 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:52 pm
Myo wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:37 pm
Myo wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.

It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
Ah, wait no, nevermind. I misread the item description. I though it was a puppeting action, but it is one degree removed pupetting.That doesn't actually work then.
I don't follow?

'redirect your target’s target’

I’m assuming this means that if I target A, and A has an action that should be targeting B, that I then get to puppet B’s action to a third target of my choice. Which seems needlessly complex and room to create a chaos without gaining any meaningful info.

I had thought it was a simple puppet: I target A and get to give him a new target for his action in which case my original suggestion about puppeting someone to self-target stands.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 12:06 am**

I always get super confused about that type of ability but I'm not seeing the difference between what it is and what you thought it was. I'm probably reading what you said wrong idk

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 12:07 am**

Oh wait no I see. No I think it is what you originally thought.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:18 pm RIP Nanook. What happens to his scrap? Maybe the people who voted Nanook for scrap are suspicious. Maybe baddies vote scrap for each other. Not when there's three Big Swinging Dicks in the room though. What was the final tally? I should look.
Bro didn't you vote for Nanook lol

oh wow i didnt realize that

I know I'm not bad. I just thought it was a legitimate angle. If you think scrap votes are analysis-worthy.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 pm Someone bought Teleportation from the Store. It roleblocks. Someone's gonna be roleblocking each turn and knowing who isn't killing. This is good, even though they can't infodrop. Let's be aware of any funny feelings in that direction... ah the nebulous line of infodropping. Sometimes, one is just 100% sure of things and darned if I can't see why!
You've got a lot of nervous energy

Bring it, nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 12:07 am Oh wait no I see. No I think it is what you originally thought.

You make a player target who you want. That's the simplest way, I think, to say it.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 4:26 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:20 pm Are scrap votes worthwhile to analyze? Maybe not in this situation. But that's my two ways. Nanook voters, or the two off-the-Grand-Townclear-train voters. JJJ is the other Nanook voter. Is he bad?

Nah

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 4:28 am**

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 4:32 am**

I actually have no idea what to talk about. That's a first.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 4:40 am**

It's because more people need to talk. And Spacedaisy would be a good start.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 4:59 am**

Why votes have small aubergine after them?

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:08 am**

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 4:59 am Why votes have small aubergine after them?

It provides a way to quickly search for them within the thread if you CTRL+F the word "aubergine" (assuming you're not on mobile).

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:09 am**

I count one (1) read made in the history of this thread by Myo, and it's an extremely controversial take:

MacDougall town

bad look

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:14 am**

I just asked myself for some gun to head reads:

Jiwon B
LC G
Mac G
motobot G
Myo B
sig B
Sloonei G
Soneji B
Spacedaisy B
tedxtr G

Still not as sorted as I'd like, but it's an improvement.

We're at 9 vs. 2 vs. 1 I believe. If we don't give kill power to the independent (who knows), that leaves us with three mislynches available until a 3 vs. 2 LyLo. That means a correct POE of 5 would be necessary. Again the indy could screw with that, but whatever.

I have 5 Bs here. Consider that a tentative POE pool.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:19 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:08 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 4:59 am Why votes have small aubergine after them?
It provides a way to quickly search for them within the thread if you CTRL+F the word "aubergine" (assuming you're not on mobile).

I mean who uses them? If you do that and search aubergine you will get like only 20% of the votes, it won't tell anything about game really, why would anyone use it?

Do we get to see who had most votes at end of night? Also I thought sloonei and soneji was same person until just before

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:30 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:14 am I just asked myself for some gun to head reads:

Jiwon B
LC G
Mac G
motobot G
Myo B
sig B
Sloonei G
Soneji B
Spacedaisy B
tedxtr G

Still not as sorted as I'd like, but it's an improvement.

We're at 9 vs. 2 vs. 1 I believe. If we don't give kill power to the independent (who knows), that leaves us with three mislynches available until a 3 vs. 2 LyLo. That means a correct POE of 5 would be necessary. Again the indy could screw with that, but whatever.

I have 5 Bs here. Consider that a tentative POE pool.

Sadly no. You are in it also.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:35 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:30 am Sadly no. You are in it also.

Not mine!

Do what you gotta do. Get this game moving and I'll clear myself.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:37 am**

Jiwon, where are you at? Reads-wise.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 5:38 am**

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:19 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:08 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 4:59 am Why votes have small aubergine after them?
It provides a way to quickly search for them within the thread if you CTRL+F the word "aubergine" (assuming you're not on mobile).
I mean who uses them? If you do that and search aubergine you will get like only 20% of the votes, it won't tell anything about game really, why would anyone use it?

Do we get to see who had most votes at end of night? Also I thought sloonei and soneji was same person until just before

Ideally everyone would use it. But yanno. Epi posted the night poll results here

Who's a mafia member, Jiwon?

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 6:02 am**

I already said I found tedx suspicious and I have no idea about vote count last day so don't have anything to say about that.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 6:32 am**

Only 1 player out of a 14 player pool? (13 without you, I guess)

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 7:12 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:40 pm MacDougall - Scum

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 7:25 am**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:52 pm Good lord, four pages at the eod? I’m going with my gut based on my earlier reads. What’s the story with the LC wagon? Did I miss something or is it in these last four pages?

I can see why Space is a hot topic

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 7:31 am**

yeah that's about it

[VOTE: Spacedaisy ] aubergine

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 7:34 am**

sig / myo / LC is PoE I guess? Debating on jiwon.

Didn't read all of soneji's posts

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