The Syndicate

I’m here to sheep Urist and MP7 unquestioningly

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17 am I’m here to sheep Urist and MP7 unquestioningly

scirrus hard-softed a pr when he had like 3 votes so we're banishing him today.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17 am I’m here to sheep Urist and MP7 unquestioningly

scirrus hard-softed a pr when he had like 3 votes so we're banishing him today.

Ok cool I’ll totally move my vote

someone put scirrus at B-2 real quick, i want to test something

I feel like I’ve heard that before

do people really think i claimed a pr

wild tbh

if im town i shouldnt be voted for. It's really that simple

/shrug

*yeeted i mean, not voted for

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:08 am I think my preferred lynches for today are Jeraldo, Proto and Michelle. Maybe I'm too omgus, but I do not like that post from Jeraldo with scum reads with no reasoning.

Would like to hear what people who know Jeraldo thinks.

I put you in the my mafreads due to potential pairings of mafia as seen in paired. Interactions between you and tutu seem like partner on partner interactions, so you're in my mafreads for now. You are omgussing and i've been accused of doing that too on other platforms but through tutu's posts i don't think they leaned either town or mafia and you townreading them made me think you guys are partners but you are right that I don't know you enough to know your playstyle. Just my thoughts. Also I couldn't explain everything cuz I was falling asleep on my keyboard last night as Dyslexicon's name appears in Not paired without anyone after that. Also 1612 can you stop using the blowdryer and get in here and play?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:04 am

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:10 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:08 am I do not like that post from Jeraldo with scum reads with no reasoning.

Come on, so many people have done this this game. Why pick out jeraldooo in particular?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:28 am What do people think about yeeting Alison just to see how she'd flip? Cause I think that would be pretty fun tbh tbh

Do you have a scum read on Alison?

Who else have done exactly that in this game in your opinion? Genuine question. And it's not just the lacking reasoning for the scum reads, but also the pop in of it all.

I don't really have a read on Alison.

My reasonings were what proto says (which i kinda hate that he figured out) but yeah I'm looking for potential pairings and things that stick out cuz that's where I can find info. You don't have to like my reads cuz we all got our own opinions. I popped in because 1. I forgot we were playing this 2. I want to give my thoughts on the game and if you wanna push the fact that my playstyle is different then yours and vote me off, you're probably mafia tryna get an easy d1 vote and it's fallen to me. Sorry if this sounded to harsh.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:02 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:18 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:17 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:14 am ok so if dizzy doesnt have 300 posts and doesnt have 10 townreads by the end of day 0 he's scum with alison (who could be scum for similar reason)

i didn't read all the day for rl reasons but i wanted to see what is happening here.

Fos for tutuu because he expects performance like Dizzy is a robot working at a norm. I see it as a joke too but i dislike it.
Also associative reads so early? smh

yep, was a joke, just like the alison post

why would you dislike it even if u see it as a joke?

i have problems to understand jokes English is not my first language

Not trying to be rude here, but I don't really see what English as a second language have to do with this. You said you saw it as a joke in your initial reaction to it, so I saying later you have problems understanding jokes just seems like [excuse] and sidestepping the question tbh. One "foreigner" to another. Sorry if it's legit, but that is my reaction.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:20 am imagine sucking so bad the one person who has played a lot with you misreads you

To be fair i haven't had a good game in a long time so I shouldn't be too surprised

I'm a bit tilted by this reaction for some reason. It's like you're just taking a seat and giving up lol. Actually, I did not scum read you. BUT when I considered to pretend to do it I kind of talked myself into seeing it as possible. I kind of think some of your catching up was pretty generic and just standard "this is good town play" kind of things. I also get all the pings from how Proto is talking about you. First having you as a strong suspect for what I considered pretty weird things, like the strength of the accusation didn't match what he read you off of, and now backing off of it when you're actually a wagon. He also said he would vote Urist or Scirrus, which pinged distancing to me. BUT this isn't really about you lol. I just want to state this here in case one of you flip scum at a point, cause then I think that interaction is worth looking into. I actually did town read you at the start of the game though, that was my first instinct, and I didn't really mean for this vote to be anything more than shenanigans at first. It's like I reaction tested myself. Wow I broke mafia.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:49 am [VOTE: Scirrus] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:52 am Without reading much i want to consider M7 volume cleared for now, and my wagon suspect for voting me for few not AI posts.

Michelle

2

33% Voters: Scirrus, Alison

[VOTE: Scirrus] aubergine

What do you two see in Scirrus?

Also lol, Michelle, I don't think clearing MP off of volume is how reading MP works imo. It's like clearing Hally on volume which is lol. Do you not think she can post as much as scum?

I mentioned english as not native for me because i really don't get jokes and sarcasm in most cases, if you think is bad, idk what to say but is useless to explain it more imo.

I see in Scirrus an opportunist

About M7 I said that i liked his tone and i like he is high poster. I am sure he can post as wolf. Now what?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:12 am @Michelle Hi! I think a bunch of ppl are scumreading u and atm it looks (to me) that you or scirrus or maybe jeraldo is headed to be the day 1 yeet. id be sad if ur town and u got yeeted. u said u have to work and everything, so no rush. but if some free time comes up, could u please try to give a read on everyone?

idk if i only read page 1 and 11 do you think i can be objective about everyone?

If this is your possibility to analyse one's behaviour, do your best to catch scum after my villa flip.

Guys I’ve been here a whole five minutes and nobody’s told me who the towncore is, what the actual fuck

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:22 pm Guys I’ve been here a whole five minutes and nobody’s told me who the towncore is, what the actual fuck

there is no towncore, the town is a mess and none of my top town reads agree with me or each other
i'm trying to find a compromise but it isn't working
just look at the votecount

NANOOOOOOOK \o/

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:25 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:22 pm Guys I’ve been here a whole five minutes and nobody’s told me who the towncore is, what the actual fuck

there is no towncore, the town is a mess and none of my top town reads agree with me or each other
i'm trying to find a compromise but it isn't working
just look at the votecount

Sounds about right tbh

Who is in your dysfunctional towncore

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:22 pm Guys I’ve been here a whole five minutes and nobody’s told me who the towncore is, what the actual fuck

Towncore is me, Tutu, Cobbler, MP and Urist, if I'm reading the game right, which of course I am what could ever go wrong

Nanook, do you want to be towncore? How much do you want to be towncore and what would it mean to you? I accept the answer in form of an essay or a poem.

I want to be towncore
I don’t want to read
There’s nothing I want more
Than to let someone else lead

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:29 pm I want to be towncore
I don’t want to read
There’s nothing I want more
Than to let someone else lead

who are you lol you're not in vote list???

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:29 pm I want to be towncore
I don’t want to read
There’s nothing I want more
Than to let someone else lead

who are you lol you're not in vote list???

I’m nanook, who the fuck are you?

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:15 am @Dyslexicon i'm cool with the jeraldooo banish, but if we want to nab Alison we should probably do it today.

That would be spiciest vote. I would love it if she's scum and hate it if she's town. I don't find reason to think any and I know that's lame

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:33 pm

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:29 pm I want to be towncore
I don’t want to read
There’s nothing I want more
Than to let someone else lead

who are you lol you're not in vote list???

I’m nanook, who the fuck are you?

im confused who are u on the vote list cuz i see everyone else but you

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:33 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:15 am @Dyslexicon i'm cool with the jeraldooo banish, but if we want to nab Alison we should probably do it today.

That would be spiciest vote. I would love it if she's scum and hate it if she's town. I don't find reason to think any and I know that's lame

Urist may I ask why yall wanna vote me out?

Leap of faith compels me to think that Michelle is not a good yeet today. I read your case, [mention]Alison[/mention], and you sum up some gripes I also have with them. I can't really critique it tbh.

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:33 pm

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:29 pm I want to be towncore
I don’t want to read
There’s nothing I want more
Than to let someone else lead

who are you lol you're not in vote list???

I’m nanook, who the fuck are you?

im confused who are u on the vote list cuz i see everyone else but you

What’s your literacy level and/or do you live in Alabama by any chance?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:21 am I believe ive explained all of my reads in detail except alison

I will confess that the reason is purely selfish. as in, she believes that you can only catch her based off of reasons X Y Z which she had previously told me. i believe ive caught her as town based off of reason M and i dont wanna disclose M

I want you to disclose M. I'm your friend too, right? *puppy eyes and stuff*

Wow, shots fired.

[mention]Jeraldooo[/mention], Nanook subbed in for LC.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:30 am (I have no idea how that eye emoji got there. I didn't intend to put it there.)

Alison spy confirmed

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

Booooooooo

Lavender wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:55 amwhat makes u say that?

i play the most on mafia.gg (text based, games usually last under 2 hours). anything unjustified u can take as a reaction check. anything justified u can take as gospel

by the way, since nobody likes my long con read, i'm happy to vote proto with u today, especially since he gave me permission to tunnel him or whatever. i'd much prefer proto to jeraldooo

It was mostly a poke. But also full read list and not much else and then bai is > rand scum in my back yard. This was your first time with forum mafia, yes?

Can you talk more about Jeraldo, do you read him town?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

Booooooooo

Shush, you.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

Booooooooo

Shush, you.

Don’t make me play nice I don’t wanna

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:43 am Yeah, Lavender is town.

Not unlikely, but also why?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:47 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

Booooooooo

Shush, you.

Don’t make me play nice I don’t wanna

I know you don't. =p
Really wondering what your read on LC consists of though. Sounds like TMI tbh

I want to town read Nanook for being in the game. I'm terrible.

Oh maybe this will be the game I pull out RNG reads, I’ve been meaning to do that for awhile now

On a scale of “wtf dude” to 7 how mad will that make people

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:47 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

Booooooooo

Shush, you.

Don’t make me play nice I don’t wanna

I know you don't. =p
Really wondering what your read on LC consists of though. Sounds like TMI tbh

I asked dunya and she told me, but she said it was a one time only thing

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

oh okay thanks i completely missed that post. and nanook i can read trust me i was just genuinely confused and no im not from alabama. (weird question to ask)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17 am I’m here to sheep Urist and MP7 unquestioningly

Like I don't even exist rip

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:51 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm Wow, shots fired.

@Jeraldooo, Nanook subbed in for LC.

oh okay thanks i completely missed that post. and nanook i can read trust me i was just genuinely confused and no im not from alabama. (weird question to ask)

It was a joke

Cause people from Alabama can’t read

Except Jules apparently but there’s an exception to every rule

Ha ha ha making fun of the US south is fun

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:51 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17 am I’m here to sheep Urist and MP7 unquestioningly

Like I don't even exist rip

I missed you in the list tbh

Maybe I’m from Alabama and didn’t know it

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:03 pm do people really think i claimed a pr

wild tbh

I kind of did read like a soft to me too. But I don't really know why you would soft there as either alignment. But I don't think it's weird if people took it that way

Nanook, you should do drag tbh =p

Cause I’m an ass or cause I have curvaceous hips

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:24 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:08 am I think my preferred lynches for today are Jeraldo, Proto and Michelle. Maybe I'm too omgus, but I do not like that post from Jeraldo with scum reads with no reasoning.

Would like to hear what people who know Jeraldo thinks.

I put you in the my mafreads due to potential pairings of mafia as seen in paired. Interactions between you and tutu seem like partner on partner interactions, so you're in my mafreads for now. You are omgussing and i've been accused of doing that too on other platforms but through tutu's posts i don't think they leaned either town or mafia and you townreading them made me think you guys are partners but you are right that I don't know you enough to know your playstyle. Just my thoughts. Also I couldn't explain everything cuz I was falling asleep on my keyboard last night as Dyslexicon's name appears in Not paired without anyone after that. Also 1612 can you stop using the blowdryer and get in here and play?

So here's what I see: I see your pairings as really random. What makes me/Tutu a more likely pairing than anyone else? I town read a bunch of people. Just because you don't happen to agree with that read? I just played a game with Tutu and quickly read her town. She's coming across pretty much the exact same way to me here, so that's why I town read her. I find it pretty easy to follow her train of thoughts, and I also like the pushes she's had. Sue me lol. Pretty sure I've explained this. Why is this mafia pairing to you instead of me just having a town read on her? Also, do you expect scum to go out and mutually town read each other early? I know this is kind of a bunch of questions, but I'm really trying to understand where you're coming from here. So if you could expand more that would be great, cause I still don't get it. Also, you falling asleep and being tired is fair enough, but not really something I have to answer to tbh. I'm reading what's there. Now that you're here I would love for you to talk more about how you view this game in particular, and also the game of mafia in general.

Alison spent a lot of time to put more words than me to 'analyse" my posts.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am So, my catchup's done. Here's why Michelle is scum.

And here is the preset mentality used by her while reading my posts

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:17 pm Fos for tutuu because he expects performance like Dizzy is a robot working at a norm. I see it as a joke too but i dislike it.
Also associative reads so early? smh

I was first pinged by this post. I didn't like the mental gymnastics here - at once she simultaneously acknowledges that it was a joke from tutuu, and at the same time says that we should scumread tutuu for it. That doesn't really make sense to me - and it reads like an attempt to shade tutuu.

I said clearly a Fos if you know what this means.
It would be a shade if the wording were not directed at Tutuu. Is clear for me you don't make or you don't want to make the distinction between shade and Fos.

Can you think at Fos as scum read? Don't you exaggerate here? Who is with the mental gymnastics here? I think is you

Also the joke thingy, i said "I see it as a joke too" where too means a second possibility to interpret.
You say "acknowledges that it was a joke" and this is a misinterpretation of my words.
When you make a case, be sure you don't twist one's words please.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am
Later on Michelle says she is very busy and doesn't have time to read the game. I believe her. When you're scum and you don't have time to properly read and invest time into the game, you're far more likely to wolf "openly" (just straight up pushing your agenda, attacking town players, defending buddies etc. as opposed to more WIFOMy or manipulative plays). And you're far more likely to just skim through the thread until you find something a townie said that looks objectionable or sketchy, slap a scumread on them for it, and boom! You're done. You look like you've done solving and you've cast shade on a townie. That's what wolves who can't put in effort do.

This is such a strech.. when i was scum with Dizzy and Juliets i did my best to look informed and asked them in scum chat things. Do you really imagine me as an idiot who can't update thoughts in scum chat in so much time who passed from the game's start until now?
This all pile of words has little value because you want to fit a way of playing on an unknown player without asking anything.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:19 am It depends on my mates but usually no

This part rang as suspicious as well. Michelle's tone has come across as being rather uncomfortable this game. Not rushed, not cramped or curt, but uncomfortable. When she says she doesn't like playing scum - then I am inclined to suspect that the source of her discomfort is her role card.

Yeah, sure.. i would say it itt.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:29 am Prepare yourself to be disappointed.
I'm really busy and my playtime it's very short, take it as you like it.
But for you to jump like this on a lynching bait is nagl

This post is really bad, and it's a continuation of the behavior I described earlier - lazily picking out something objectionable to scumread and calling it bad to shade that player. If Michelle is town here, why does she think of herself as exebait? She hasn't posted anything overtly scummy, and she hasn't even let on that she's going to be relatively inactive at the time I "jumped" on her. She's not a chronically misexecuted player either - she's a Champs level player. I think she doesn't actually think she's exebait - she's just looking for a reason to make me look bad (she even calls it nagl - not a good look).

Oh yes, champs level players should always have time.
You missed the part where i said i thought this game will start later. I registered for it and in few days i have to play it, but i would have time in a week to play this game like usual.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am Note the agenda behind Michelle's post here. Exebaits, by definition, are people who are easy to execute because they exhibit scummy behavior. In other words, if she really was exebait, then I could easily be a town member falling for the exebait. How does Michelle know I'm scum trying to push her on false pretences rather than town attacking what appears to be a scummy individual? Does she put any effort into trying to sort me, or figure out my perspective or point of view to think if I'm attacking her from a scummy or townie standpoint? No, she doesn't - she's just coming at me with the intention of making me look bad.

You kind of fell in a trap here. I could never know you are town or scum without stirring the pot isn't it?

I only said nagl, short for 4 words and you put in my head a whole bunch of nothingness. My nagl and my Fos plus a vote that is my agenda.
Should i read you villager for rushing my Iso like this?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:52 am Without reading much i want to consider M7 volume cleared for now, and my wagon suspect for voting me for few not AI posts.

Michelle

2

33% Voters: Scirrus, Alison

[VOTE: Scirrus] aubergine

The MP7 volume clear is lazy. If you're good enough to be in Champs, you're good enough to know that scum can have a high volume of posts. The suspicion on her wagon feels like lashing out in an OMGUS-y way. Specifically, the claim that we're voting her for NAI posts is suspect. Her post literally had an FoS on tutuu. Is that NAI? I don't think so. I think it's just Michelle - yet again - making up reasons to frame people's actions in a bad light, in a way that looks plausible on the surface (or to someone skimming the game because they're busy, like her), but that doesn't stand up to careful examination.

Calm down missy, you pretend you did a careful examination?
Saying twice i am a Champs player and lecturing me nonetheless, why do you think i gave the TR for M7?
Asking for a friend.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:58 pm Cause I’m an ass or cause I have curvaceous hips

But those are the same things! In essence:

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:31 pmMy reasonings were what proto says (which i kinda hate that he figured out) but yeah I'm looking for potential pairings and things that stick out cuz that's where I can find info. You don't have to like my reads cuz we all got our own opinions. I popped in because 1. I forgot we were playing this 2. I want to give my thoughts on the game and if you wanna push the fact that my playstyle is different then yours and vote me off, you're probably mafia tryna get an easy d1 vote and it's fallen to me. Sorry if this sounded to harsh.

You don't have to worry about sounding harsh. I'm not very concerned about your read on me other than I'm trying to understand why it exists at all. Do you typically look for pairings in games, and what is the method you use if so?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:14 am tl;dr - almost everything that Michelle has been saying is tinged with agenda, makes absolutely no sense, and fits completely within the MO of a busy wolf who doesn't have time to read or post carefully.

i object at everything, and i am insulted by the coloured part

If Alison is a villager, she still has a long way to learn how to understand people.

From curiosity, how many games did you play until now and since then are you playing forum mafia?[mention]Alison[/mention]