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Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:15 pm**

Can't believe scum haven't taken the opportunity to hammer Wilgy.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:15 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:13 pm I will be driving most of today so not gonna be very active

on the highway?

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:16 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:13 pm I will be driving most of today so not gonna be very active

If you're on a highway it counts

I've gotta run soon and will move my vote when I do (because I'd prefer to be around if hammers are happening)

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:16 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:15 pm Can't believe scum haven't taken the opportunity to hammer Wilgy.

he’s outed

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:16 pm**

Wilgy prob though hammer is 5 votes

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:16 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:13 pm I will be driving most of today so not gonna be very active
on the highway?

On the rural highway! We're driving through the everglades

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:17 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:13 pm I will be driving most of today so not gonna be very active
If you're on a highway it counts

I've gotta run soon and will move my vote when I do (because I'd prefer to be around if hammers are happening)

nobody is actually going to hammer him dw

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:19 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:17 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:13 pm I will be driving most of today so not gonna be very active
If you're on a highway it counts

I've gotta run soon and will move my vote when I do (because I'd prefer to be around if hammers are happening)
nobody is actually going to hammer him dw

True scum would never do that only town would

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:20 pm**

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

I read his iso and im actually pretty confident wilgy is town

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm**

Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:22 pm**

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

Let's put her at 4 next!

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:22 pm**

I no longer have town reads on Jay or dizzy

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm**

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm**

I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:24 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now

Why is mac a tr?

I also still have a tr of Jay

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm**

Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now
Why is mac a tr?

I also still have a tr of Jay

Hes been townie and he's volume/quantity/rate cleared

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm**

But it's mildly amusing.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now
Why is mac a tr?

I also still have a tr of Jay
Hes been townie and he's volume/quantity/rate cleared

The second is not true.

Source: GoC.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:30 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now
Why is mac a tr?

I also still have a tr of Jay
Hes been townie and he's volume/quantity/rate cleared

I would argue that Mac is generally at or near top poster as wolf. And also I don't think he's been townie. He also doubled down on posting random stuff when I called him out for it.

I admit that he might spitefully do that as town too, but I still think him doing it to begin with is scummy

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:32 pm**

I can't believe Alison isn't hammered yet. Lock scum

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:33 pm**

marmot has become one of my stronger v reads lately

the skepticism of mac also seems villagery because i think wolves are more likely just write someone like mac off as v (and i agree with marmot that mac isn’t really villagery)

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm**

This is a pretty "Alright, here's what's going to happen" consensus PoE lol

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm**

Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:42 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild

Updated Alison read?

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:45 pm**

Personally I think my page 1 Mac/Nook team has legs.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:47 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild

Has she ever been D1'd before as either alignment? Let's make history.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:48 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild

kind of a weird post

don’t you suspect alison?

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:48 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild
Has she ever been D1'd before as either alignment? Let's make history.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5453820

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:54 pm**

I do suspect Alison. I don’t oppose the wagon. I just find the sudden movements funny — not bad, not ill-advised, just literally something that made me chuckle

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:54 pm**

oh ok, carry on then

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:56 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:54 pm I do suspect Alison. I don’t oppose the wagon. I just find the sudden movements funny — not bad, not ill-advised, just literally something that made me chuckle

Do you think my Alison read holds up

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:56 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:54 pm I do suspect Alison. I don’t oppose the wagon. I just find the sudden movements funny — not bad, not ill-advised, just literally something that made me chuckle
Do you think my Alison read holds up

I need reminded of your view. On phone

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:59 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:49 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:47 pm i’m gonna be really annoyed if both alison and NAA are v
I get why you'd be annoyed if NAA is V treating you like this, but what did I do?
i probably shouldn’t lump you in with him

was annoyed at you earlier because it felt like you weren’t even trying to find me and were trying to pigeonhole me into your logic with the dizzy thing and then seriously asking me why i wouldn’t be ok blindly sheeping you when i don’t v read you and you wolf read me

just frankly asinine things that i have a hard time seeing you come at me with as a villager

but you’ve dropped it now so hopefully that’s the end of that
All of those things are reaction tests.
your entire push on me was a reaction test?
This seems kinda Alison 101 lmao

Also I think the main reason for my Alison tr is presentation, still having trouble describing it but there's an efficiency to it, she gets to the point quickly and bluntly in a way that looks designed to hit harder when you read it
Just makes me actually believe she's trying to stir the thread, and I also think it describes what I've seen of v!Alison better than what I've seen of w!Alison

And generally she seems to not have any kind of schedule for who she pressures and when but these reads are always wrong from me so take that one with a grain of salt

@JaggedJimmyJay

Singling you out partly because you probably have more experience with her

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:01 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"

That's just incorrect. I TR Hally, NAA and Marmot.

NAA I even vocalized.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:03 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now
Why is mac a tr?

I also still have a tr of Jay
Hes been townie and he's volume/quantity/rate cleared
The second is not true.

Source: GoC.

It is by my metrics

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?

Literally everyone saying things like "I don't want a hammer" lol

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:07 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:01 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"
That's just incorrect. I TR Hally, NAA and Marmot.

NAA I even vocalized.

Oh my god.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:07 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:55 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter
To expand:

I have mindset concerns about a hunt focused solely around whether or not mafia would hammer X

I see this as a valid concern. A scum would be more inclined to think about hammers. Your read is incorrect, but for good reason I suppose.

I will argue it though. For what little meta I have, attempting to understand scum lines and respond correctly is very much how I play. Alot of my gut reads are built upon this. Thinking about how wolves interact with a hammer I think is wise.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?
Literally everyone saying things like "I don't want a hammer" lol

Who has said that though?

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm**

@c4e5g3d5

I’m not sure I would associate town Alison with a see-what-sticks approach; regardless, I find this manner of complex metagaming to be too specific to tell a reliable story about any player.

If I expect anything of town Alison, it’s that I will understand what she is doing regardless of whether or not I agree. I don’t entirely understand her play here. I think I view her similarly to how others were viewing Mac when he showed up.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm**

I will ask. People who have correctly read Dizzy before. Why aren't they scum rn?

I find that I'm just bad at reading them.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:13 pm**

Oh, moved vote to Mac to avoid hammer.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:13 pm**

if this was a jester game i would think wilgy was jester

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:15 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?
Literally everyone saying things like "I don't want a hammer" lol
Who has said that though?

I know that I have said that I don't want an early hammer to happen when I'm not here.

I know hally has said that no one will be hammered.

I don't equate either of those things directly to "that person doesn't want to hammer" so I don't know who else you're talking about

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:15 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:55 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter
To expand:

I have mindset concerns about a hunt focused solely around whether or not mafia would hammer X
I see this as a valid concern. A scum would be more inclined to think about hammers. Your read is incorrect, but for good reason I suppose.

I will argue it though. For what little meta I have, attempting to understand scum lines and respond correctly is very much how I play. Alot of my gut reads are built upon this. Thinking about how wolves interact with a hammer I think is wise.

Quickly:

How many votes is the hammer? Don’t look, don’t count, just blurt

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:15 pm**

I wish I could ever roll jester.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:15 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm I will ask. People who have correctly read Dizzy before. Why aren't they scum rn?

I find that I'm just bad at reading them.

Yes

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:16 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:15 pm I wish I could ever roll jester.

Play jestermania and increase your odds

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