Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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&like, what makes it interesting?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:51 amGoing to do something I generally dislike & jump in on this comment directed toward someone else- i think "white knighting" has some pretty strong connotations and i think it's worth going into detail abt what exactly you're observing in Chelseas postsfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
like, what function do you think it's serving here
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:26 pmWhat about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic sinceCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:23 pm I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:00 pmYou know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
petit is really towny for doing this
Chelsea coming to the rescue of players for situations that haven't even happened....or at least, no examples given. It looks like a post a wolf might make to say "hey! I'm here to help town!" It's not game state related, and as I said there's no actual examples given of what she'll defend or is looking to prevent.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:51 amGoing to do something I generally dislike & jump in on this comment directed toward someone else- i think "white knighting" has some pretty strong connotations and i think it's worth going into detail abt what exactly you're observing in Chelseas postsfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
like, what function do you think it's serving here
God forbid town play preventativelyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:25 amChelsea coming to the rescue of players for situations that haven't even happened....or at least, no examples given. It looks like a post a wolf might make to say "hey! I'm here to help town!" It's not game state related, and as I said there's no actual examples given of what she'll defend or is looking to prevent.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:51 amGoing to do something I generally dislike & jump in on this comment directed toward someone else- i think "white knighting" has some pretty strong connotations and i think it's worth going into detail abt what exactly you're observing in Chelseas postsfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
like, what function do you think it's serving here
Just vaguery... "I'll help the awk town!"
Lol you literally always wolfread me for just posting thoughts
Why sabi afaict this is the first time you mention them
Meh, that's not how I read it. It's clear tho that you're taking things from what I've said that are not what I intend whatsoever.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:36 amGod forbid town play preventativelyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:25 amChelsea coming to the rescue of players for situations that haven't even happened....or at least, no examples given. It looks like a post a wolf might make to say "hey! I'm here to help town!" It's not game state related, and as I said there's no actual examples given of what she'll defend or is looking to prevent.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:51 amGoing to do something I generally dislike & jump in on this comment directed toward someone else- i think "white knighting" has some pretty strong connotations and i think it's worth going into detail abt what exactly you're observing in Chelseas postsfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
like, what function do you think it's serving here
Just vaguery... "I'll help the awk town!"
I do sorta agree with this but also my limited impression is it's exactly NAI for sabi. Like I(w) found them(v) a very easy fake push in the mash because they spammed a lot of non-content chat without really contributing takes themselves
Oops quas already said exactly the same thing ggLordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:52 amfrom my *extremely* limited experience with sabi they seem to be content averse beyond drive by reads anyways. Not convinced they wouldn't just do it hypocritically as a villager is whats giving me pause
Searching & finding instances of the word awkward doesn't mean that players have been pushed for being awkward. For instance, we've now used the word several times & not been making pushes based off awkwardness of player interactions. In your opinion, are players this game actually being pushed because they are awkward?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward
Search found 5 matches: awk
Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.
&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
True, but this implies you TR Chelsea. Do you? Why?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward
Search found 5 matches: awk
Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.
&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
My point is that the examples are there if you want to find them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:47 amSearching & finding instances of the word awkward doesn't mean that players have been pushed for being awkward. For instance, we've now used the word several times & not been making pushes based off awkwardness of player interactions. In your opinion, are players this game actually being pushed because they are awkward?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward
Search found 5 matches: awk
Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.
&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
Ya know, sometimes people create the problem, just so they can solve it.
I do feel you and I are getting slightly bogged down in minutiae, and I find that towny
...we just ignoring this or
I've just played enough Maf to know that even tho I can disagree w/ takes, reads, what have you's between players, there's things to look for in the differences between a T/T and W/T disagreement.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:55 amMy point is that the examples are there if you want to find them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:47 amSearching & finding instances of the word awkward doesn't mean that players have been pushed for being awkward. For instance, we've now used the word several times & not been making pushes based off awkwardness of player interactions. In your opinion, are players this game actually being pushed because they are awkward?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward
Search found 5 matches: awk
Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.
&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
Ya know, sometimes people create the problem, just so they can solve it.
I do feel you and I are getting slightly bogged down in minutiae, and I find that towny
I addressed the bit abt differences in perceived strength of the word "push" - regardless of intensity/follow-through it's not hard to imagine how someone might get there.
Bold from you is wolfy, handwaves stated issues w/ your progression but concedes a TR
Schia can be town nowSchiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward
Search found 5 matches: awk
Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.
&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:49 amTrue, but this implies you TR Chelsea. Do you? Why?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward
Search found 5 matches: awk
Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.
&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
hiiiii, still developing an opinion on your slot but i want to say atvl that your posts are fun to readStrawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am This is Strawhenge to the thread: Good morning, I'm back. Oh wait I forgot my tea. Hold on.
Okay, I have my tea, it's delicious; I've washed my face; I've moisturized; I have my hat on backwards, and I'm ready to party. I'm working on some ISOs for the players I mentioned earlier, but in the meantime can someone remind me what 'mash' is in reference to?
in some communities it's standard for 3rd party/survivors/etc to claim early as like, sign of good will/intent to townside yadda yaddaStrawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:04 pmsiren.gif
I'm rusty on my mafia role lore; are there third-parties that aren't anti-town? Why would Colin just come out and claim third-party?
unless it's lingo and he's saying 'threep' aka 'threap' which means 'to scold; chide'
Are you running up the hills to say that?
WINDWARD!!!!WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:19 am Oh this is absolutely karma that I've missed 15 pages of posts
I'm at a party soon but I'll pop in when I can, and save the catchup for later. Hype though, this is gonna be fun!
I'm trying to remember if this was something often done here in Colin's timeSchiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:08 pmin some communities it's standard for 3rd party/survivors/etc to claim early as like, sign of good will/intent to townside yadda yaddaStrawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:04 pmsiren.gif
I'm rusty on my mafia role lore; are there third-parties that aren't anti-town? Why would Colin just come out and claim third-party?
unless it's lingo and he's saying 'threep' aka 'threap' which means 'to scold; chide'
why Iawy and sabi? (like guillo seems in his town range to me, but sabi wasn't particularly as of this post, and Iawy's push on pixxy was lol, so what did u see?)hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:43 pm guillo, rask, iawy, sabi, among others are giving me good vibes at the moment
I'll add all my nicks/alts in the profile soon so you don't get confused. (Iirc I've played with a good third of this lobby already)Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:34 pm Addendum: I only just now realized that Raskol = Le petit.
I don't think I'm white-knighting anyone here, where exactly did that come from? At the time, I remember some dude called out being awk again and after seeing it at least three times, I started getting fed up with the comment because I feel that's a horrible base for any sort of read as I stated.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
Like yes he says "towny sometimes" while the only positive in my blurb is that he "liked the bluntness" but this really goes nowhere. He goes on to state that several things from IAWY are either NAI or underwhelming. Which has about the same level of neutrality as most of the blurb about me except that he was able to latch onto Chelsea's push.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:21 am Inawordyes - Someone who I consider to be towny sometimes. Like on #335 with Valentine and him asking about Valentine's read on IAWY. Perhaps overexplainy on something I wouldn't exactly consider AI. Like now with IAWY versus falcon, things took an unexpected personal turn I guess, one that I would never really find alignment indicative. #411 This read on DZ is pretty underwhelming.
You're a god send.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:38 amLol you literally always wolfread me for just posting thoughts
Also @Chelsea you can click the little arrow in a quote to jump back to the post
Anyway you seem town. Would be nice if you notice my many posts that aren't "surface level pressure" but for one thing my schia read was not surface level as I explained it later and for another bouncing off things other people notice (like on creature) is just how i play as town and you should know that @Cape90 you too
Why sabi afaict this is the first time you mention them
Like what i don't get is you are referring to things that happened in the first few pages of the game, of course they are all relatively weak and I've moved past most of them atp.
Did you "shut it down"? I mean, it doesn't even seem like you remember the player it was happening too...did you step in and call an end to the push based off awkwardness?Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:41 pmI don't think I'm white-knighting anyone here, where exactly did that come from? At the time, I remember some dude called out being awk again and after seeing it at least three times, I started getting fed up with the comment because I feel that's a horrible base for any sort of read as I stated.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
It also does serve as a blanket statement although do I really think we're going to push "X" because they're super awk? From the looks of it we're past it so hopefully not.
How do I explain this.
I remember seeing multiple people talk about it in my catchup and then when it happened in real time I rolled my eyes and made the post. Honestly, it's just that simple. I don't think me remembering the exact details is important what so ever to the conversation at hand.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:00 pmDid you "shut it down"? I mean, it doesn't even seem like you remember the player it was happening too...did you step in and call an end to the push based off awkwardness?Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:41 pmI don't think I'm white-knighting anyone here, where exactly did that come from? At the time, I remember some dude called out being awk again and after seeing it at least three times, I started getting fed up with the comment because I feel that's a horrible base for any sort of read as I stated.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
It also does serve as a blanket statement although do I really think we're going to push "X" because they're super awk? From the looks of it we're past it so hopefully not.