Creature wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:58 pm
Boy I am angry and exhausted
Mechanically outted
This post deserved some lols.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:24 pm
Well one thing’s for sure- Miranda wagon came out of nowhere and while I don’t think it’s odd, they are not going to be the leading wagon at end of day. Mark my words
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:53 pm
inb4 ‘sounds like you’re defending your partner miranda’
Sure thing
In Midwife’s defense she has a pretty unique play style and cadence that can come off as stiff, and at times people, especially people who aren’t used to playing with her, find it extremely Wolfy despite it being NAI.
So I’d tread cautiously on this one. There’s generally more accurate ways to solve Midwife. She typically doesn’t bus, for example.
a vote on Dennis, whom you likely don't know and some people from TS have expressed suspicion on, but IMO they look fine thus far.
A weird post saying that the first thing that probably actually matters (the 3-vote wagon) wasn't important.
then a lot of questions that don't seem to be designed to go anywhere and hedgy non-takes where you comment on things but the comments are all "This isn't AI" or "that's not enough to form a read".
This looks like an archetype wolf entrance into the game.
I'm not convinced, but if nothing else this push seems very town
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:59 am
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
So uh Sean is a player who will probably tilt you yes and who defs picks people and hard tunnels them early to "get the game started" and who believes in these tiny little reads that I think are rarely actually right and who will later on probably get so far behind he will just ask people who to vote
Buttttt has very good at what he does and you just have to read into if he believes what he's tunneling and with you I think he does or if he's making it up for a valid reason if he doesn't believe it like to get out of rvs or something.
As wolf I think he tends to hard tunnel with kid gloves and doesn't have the conviction behind it.
^endorsed
he is indeed tilting at times but the way he seemed (imo) to eventually leave this conversation seems towny (imo)
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:00 am
I am excited to finally play a game with you where I am not a wolf.
same!
dyachei/marmot w/t confirmed
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:16 am
Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.
Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct
It’s a mixed bag. We’ve got a lot of folks from a lot of different mafia backgrounds here. Some say “mafia”, some say “wolf”, some say “baddies”. They are all interchangeable and depend on who you’re speaking to. JJJ uses mafia.
The only thing that was true there is that she is Sporty. This being her fifth WW game and loving high posters were aggressively lies. I’m 76% sure she’s vig shot people for high posting.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:24 pm
Well one thing’s for sure- Miranda wagon came out of nowhere and while I don’t think it’s odd, they are not going to be the leading wagon at end of day. Mark my words
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:53 pm
inb4 ‘sounds like you’re defending your partner miranda’
Sure thing
In Midwife’s defense she has a pretty unique play style and cadence that can come off as stiff, and at times people, especially people who aren’t used to playing with her, find it extremely Wolfy despite it being NAI.
So I’d tread cautiously on this one. There’s generally more accurate ways to solve Midwife. She typically doesn’t bus, for example.
So uh Sean is a player who will probably tilt you yes and who defs picks people and hard tunnels them early to "get the game started" and who believes in these tiny little reads that I think are rarely actually right and who will later on probably get so far behind he will just ask people who to vote
Buttttt has very good at what he does and you just have to read into if he believes what he's tunneling and with you I think he does or if he's making it up for a valid reason if he doesn't believe it like to get out of rvs or something.
As wolf I think he tends to hard tunnel with kid gloves and doesn't have the conviction behind it.
^endorsed
he is indeed tilting at times but the way he seemed (imo) to eventually leave this conversation seems towny (imo)
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:16 am
Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.
It’s a mixed bag. We’ve got a lot of folks from a lot of different mafia backgrounds here. Some say “mafia”, some say “wolf”, some say “baddies”. They are all interchangeable and depend on who you’re speaking to. JJJ uses mafia.
scum!
is the word I use sorry not a read hehehe
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:15 pm
I'd say it looks more like a falcon. This is what he does.
The only thing that was true there is that she is Sporty. This being her fifth WW game and loving high posters were aggressively lies. I’m 76% sure she’s vig shot people for high posting.
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:02 pm
This is a wolf, full stop.
I'd say it looks more like a falcon. This is what he does.
When you say “this is what he does”, it sounds like you’re saying “this is NAI”, is that correct?
Not necessarily. I would lean very slightly towards a town read on him. But, at the very least, he should not be scumread for playing the role of antagonist like this.
I actually think falcon is kinda behaving out of character
I did not see this. How and where is falcon being out of character?
Everywhere?
I'm not getting my normal town falcon pings.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Why is trying to figure out animals village exactly? Also, I think this is the chillest I've even seen you when getting pushed.
Well those were also reads given too, Scotty guess the animal and gave a read
I also am a lot less stressed in my life than I was last game when I was getting pushed. Maybe also just feeling a little better about WW in general, not as insecure.
Is giving reads alone a village exclusive-trait? Especially on D0 when the "reads" were based nearly exclusively on NAI posts.
Like even the read he gave on you was because "you migrate a lot" and "hate mosquitoes".
It is not, but I did enjoy the post!
Okay, then why are you village reading him?
I’m town reading because despite the reads being on NAI posts it felt like a genuine effort!
You just got off a game where JJJ won by putting in genuine effort. On AI posts, no less. Why are you placated by this?
lol I’m liking the push here and the genuine question is warranted. I put effort into my bowel movements too, though sometimes those are rather fruitless
The Miranda wagon hasn’t dissipated all day, which is funny
[VOTE:
Miranda] aubergine
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Well those were also reads given too, Scotty guess the animal and gave a read
I also am a lot less stressed in my life than I was last game when I was getting pushed. Maybe also just feeling a little better about WW in general, not as insecure.
Is giving reads alone a village exclusive-trait? Especially on D0 when the "reads" were based nearly exclusively on NAI posts.
Like even the read he gave on you was because "you migrate a lot" and "hate mosquitoes".
It is not, but I did enjoy the post!
Okay, then why are you village reading him?
I’m town reading because despite the reads being on NAI posts it felt like a genuine effort!
You just got off a game where JJJ won by putting in genuine effort. On AI posts, no less. Why are you placated by this?
lol I’m liking the push here and the genuine question is warranted. I put effort into my bowel movements too, though sometimes those are rather fruitless
The Miranda wagon hasn’t dissipated all day, which is funny
[VOTE:
Miranda] aubergine
So you’re…. Voting Miranda because AM’s questioning is genuine?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:47 pm
by Scotty
@pyxxy you mentioned I was acting weird. Does that make me suspicious or are you just pointing at things and harrumphing?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:07 pm
Is giving reads alone a village exclusive-trait? Especially on D0 when the "reads" were based nearly exclusively on NAI posts.
Like even the read he gave on you was because "you migrate a lot" and "hate mosquitoes".
It is not, but I did enjoy the post!
Okay, then why are you village reading him?
I’m town reading because despite the reads being on NAI posts it felt like a genuine effort!
You just got off a game where JJJ won by putting in genuine effort. On AI posts, no less. Why are you placated by this?
lol I’m liking the push here and the genuine question is warranted. I put effort into my bowel movements too, though sometimes those are rather fruitless
The Miranda wagon hasn’t dissipated all day, which is funny
[VOTE:
Miranda] aubergine
So you’re…. Voting Miranda because AM’s questioning is genuine?
More that I think Miranda outright townreading me for finding Jesus in my toast is questionable
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:49 pm
by Sloonei
[VOTE:
Marmot] aubergine
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:16 am
Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.
Where and when did you see me doing this?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I’m town reading because despite the reads being on NAI posts it felt like a genuine effort!
You just got off a game where JJJ won by putting in genuine effort. On AI posts, no less. Why are you placated by this?
lol I’m liking the push here and the genuine question is warranted. I put effort into my bowel movements too, though sometimes those are rather fruitless
The Miranda wagon hasn’t dissipated all day, which is funny
[VOTE:
Miranda] aubergine
So you’re…. Voting Miranda because AM’s questioning is genuine?
More that I think Miranda outright townreading me for finding Jesus in my toast is questionable
Let me ask this. Do you think a relative noob to WW is more likely to do something like call someone town with little reasoning as scum or town?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I’m town reading because despite the reads being on NAI posts it felt like a genuine effort!
You just got off a game where JJJ won by putting in genuine effort. On AI posts, no less. Why are you placated by this?
lol I’m liking the push here and the genuine question is warranted. I put effort into my bowel movements too, though sometimes those are rather fruitless
The Miranda wagon hasn’t dissipated all day, which is funny
[VOTE:
Miranda] aubergine
So you’re…. Voting Miranda because AM’s questioning is genuine?
More that I think Miranda outright townreading me for finding Jesus in my toast is questionable
Let me ask this. Do you think a relative noob to WW is more likely to do something like call someone town with little reasoning as scum or town?
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
by Dennis
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:37 pm
@Dennis You've got yerself 2 votes bud. Do you have any guesses as to why?
It would be more suspicious if Neon didn't snapvote me to be honest
I don't know why AM voted me still, I was gonna catch up and then ask. I still really didn't get the reason after seanzie had that argument defending my valor or whatever
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:02 pm
by falcon45ca
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
ISO me baby
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:36 pm
OK, I'm done w/ Zenge for now. I feel he's intentionally bogging down discussion on a single topic, and so!
Moving on
I don’t think so. Answer my question, Falcon.
Why do you believe that my trying to guess how wolves would approach the game, and then looking to see if anyone is doing what I expect wolves to do, isn’t a “Towny Mindset”?
Cuz' you don't follow up or question any of those players that are doing the exact thing you suspect wolves of doing
No no no. These are two completely separate issues, and you’re trying to get out of answering the question by muddling them together.
You bolded my saying here’s how I imagine the wolves would approach the game, and you responded by saying “This isn’t a towny mindset”.
Now that I’m asking you to explain why thinking about how the wolves would approach the game and looking to see if anyone is doing exactly what I expect wolves to do isn’t a “towny mindset, you defaulted back to saying I wasn’t asking players why they voted for Miranda which has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand.
I asked my question to you clearly and concisely twice. The first time you tried to ignore it. The second time you continued to try and shade me with something that has absolutely nothing to do with the question that I asked you.
That’s it. We’re thunderdoming.
This is a wolf, full stop.
[VOTE:
Falcon45ca] aubergine
@Sloonei
I’d like you to for once, give your thoughts on the merits of the argument here.
I said “This is how I imagine wolves would approach the game and so I’m looking for people who are doing that”. Falcon responded to that specifically by saying this isn’t a “towny mindset”.
I asked Flacon how that’s not a towny mindset, and Falcon REFUSED to answer and tried to deflect and change the subject.
I asked AGAIN, and Falcon responded by falling back to the complaint that I wasn’t asking the people voting for Miranda questions. WHICH IS NOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.
I want you Sloonei, to talk about the actual content here. Not some hand waving about how “this just seems like flacon to you”.
I want you to respond with thoughts about the actual content here.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
It has been a trying night. My only comfort in those long hours was the knowledge that you were safely back at home.
Whilst I was in the depths of my despair, I had the most wonderful surprise!
As I am sure you must already be aware, mother has decided to come join me. I was worried she wouldn't recognize me. Time and distance have aged me nearly beyond recognition.
I could sense the trepidation in her face as she first looked upon me, and I must confess, the waters of my soul were near breaching the levees to my sanity when she at first seemed not to recognize my face. Alas, a mother's love does is not yet limited by spacial or temporal boundaries.
The wildlife here is wonderful, but I cannot shake the underlying sense of foreboding whenever I brave the wilderness. Abigail, I hear voices. I see visions.
Terrible visions.
Please keep me in your thoughts as you must know you are in mine.
-Mayo
PS Les voix disent bonjour à maman
Are these kind of posts normal for Mayo?
Do you think such a post is AI?
No, I'm just curious if I'm gonna be reading more of these letters that make no sense to me
Mayo roleplays and posts in poem and prose quite often. I’d say usually there’s game content included in the posts but not always
This is so funny imagine playing out like a full play in a game of mafia
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:06 pm
by potentialsheltervet
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:10 pm
by potentialsheltervet
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:06 pm
This is so funny imagine playing out like a full play in a game of mafia
He was a post restrictor in one game and restricted me to post like a Civil War soldier writing home. That got interesting trying to share my scumreads.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:02 pm
This is a wolf, full stop.
I'd say it looks more like a falcon. This is what he does.
When you say “this is what he does”, it sounds like you’re saying “this is NAI”, is that correct?
Not necessarily. I would lean very slightly towards a town read on him. But, at the very least, he should not be scumread for playing the role of antagonist like this.
Okay, let’s circle back to “This is what he does”.
Because that’s a very generic dismissal of my read and my push. You’re using the fact that you have familiarity with Falcon to completely dismiss my very valid reasons for finding this player to be a wolf.
So with regards to your “This is what he does”, please, I’d like you to be as thorough as possible in your explanation.
"What he does" is pick a fight with a player or a couple of players very early in the game. He'll provoke them and do his darndest to get a big reaction out of folks regardless of whether or not he's right, or is making "logical" sense. My understanding of the play is that he does it to create action.
How his play develops from there might vary from game to game. But this is the typical opening move from falcon.
This is not about picking a fight or provoking a reaction.
I asked him a very simple question, very concisely, twice. The first time he realized he didn’t have a good answer because he was full of it and tried to just walk away from the conversation. The second time he tried to obfuscate and redirect attention, still refusing to admit he was wrong or answer the question.
Coupled with everything else he’s done on thread, this is a wolf.
I’m not letting this go.
You two (falcon and zenge) are reading like two very confident townies to me
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:13 pm
by Dennis
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:24 pm
Do people on Syndicte usually use the word "yeet" in these games? If so, in what conext?
Lynch or elim or whatever you wanna call death by poll
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:58 pm
Boy I am angry and exhausted
Mechanically outted
This post deserved some lols.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:24 pm
Well one thing’s for sure- Miranda wagon came out of nowhere and while I don’t think it’s odd, they are not going to be the leading wagon at end of day. Mark my words
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:53 pm
inb4 ‘sounds like you’re defending your partner miranda’
Sure thing
In Midwife’s defense she has a pretty unique play style and cadence that can come off as stiff, and at times people, especially people who aren’t used to playing with her, find it extremely Wolfy despite it being NAI.
So I’d tread cautiously on this one. There’s generally more accurate ways to solve Midwife. She typically doesn’t bus, for example.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:37 am
Don't know 'em well enough to say for sure, but they look like it.
Share with the class
If I recap your ISO, it is
*fluff* then
a vote on Dennis, whom you likely don't know and some people from TS have expressed suspicion on, but IMO they look fine thus far.
A weird post saying that the first thing that probably actually matters (the 3-vote wagon) wasn't important.
then a lot of questions that don't seem to be designed to go anywhere and hedgy non-takes where you comment on things but the comments are all "This isn't AI" or "that's not enough to form a read".
This looks like an archetype wolf entrance into the game.
I'm not convinced, but if nothing else this push seems very town
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:50 am
@Neon , I was just looking for clarity. AM’s wording could be read either way, and I didn’t want to make assumptions with a person new to me.
Dope
SVS
Sean
Neon
AM
All obv town
Game ez
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:50 am
@Neon , I was just looking for clarity. AM’s wording could be read either way, and I didn’t want to make assumptions with a person new to me.
Dope
SVS
Sean
Neon
AM
All obv town
Game ez
Could you clarify the Sean village read to me? I'm not sure if I'm getting tilted.
So uh Sean is a player who will probably tilt you yes and who defs picks people and hard tunnels them early to "get the game started" and who believes in these tiny little reads that I think are rarely actually right and who will later on probably get so far behind he will just ask people who to vote
Buttttt has very good at what he does and you just have to read into if he believes what he's tunneling and with you I think he does or if he's making it up for a valid reason if he doesn't believe it like to get out of rvs or something.
As wolf I think he tends to hard tunnel with kid gloves and doesn't have the conviction behind it.
^endorsed
he is indeed tilting at times but the way he seemed (imo) to eventually leave this conversation seems towny (imo)
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:00 am
I am excited to finally play a game with you where I am not a wolf.
same!
dyachei/marmot w/t confirmed
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:16 am
Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.
Does the Syndicate usually play with mafia as the bad affiliation or wolves?
*squints*
Answers from syndicate regulars are appreciated too, even if dy is correct
It’s a mixed bag. We’ve got a lot of folks from a lot of different mafia backgrounds here. Some say “mafia”, some say “wolf”, some say “baddies”. They are all interchangeable and depend on who you’re speaking to. JJJ uses mafia.
I am Sporty. This is my fifth WW game and I favor highposters.
Oh we are gonna be best friends
The only thing that was true there is that she is Sporty. This being her fifth WW game and loving high posters were aggressively lies. I’m 76% sure she’s vig shot people for high posting.
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:18 pm
by Scotty
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:24 pm
Do people on Syndicte usually use the word "yeet" in these games? If so, in what conext?
Yeet is a more political option that some people have adapted instead of the more triggering ‘lynching’
Here’s a handy chart for your perusal:
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:02 pm
This is a wolf, full stop.
I'd say it looks more like a falcon. This is what he does.
When you say “this is what he does”, it sounds like you’re saying “this is NAI”, is that correct?
Not necessarily. I would lean very slightly towards a town read on him. But, at the very least, he should not be scumread for playing the role of antagonist like this.
I actually think falcon is kinda behaving out of character
falcon is not happy with the results of Meta Maf, and has become the chorus of Manhattan Skyline
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
Coached? Lol
So you’re saying townreading me is a Lev 1 wolf strategy? I disagree. I think it’s rather benign and something town do plenty.
What would you coach her?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
That's going to be a problem.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
a vote on Dennis, whom you likely don't know and some people from TS have expressed suspicion on, but IMO they look fine thus far.
A weird post saying that the first thing that probably actually matters (the 3-vote wagon) wasn't important.
then a lot of questions that don't seem to be designed to go anywhere and hedgy non-takes where you comment on things but the comments are all "This isn't AI" or "that's not enough to form a read".
This looks like an archetype wolf entrance into the game.
All the fluff was from D0. I don't know why you're acting like I've been wasting D1 avoiding any solving.
Which people from TS said Dennis was an issue before my vote? And are you confidently saying he's village when he's barely posted any content? Why does my familiarity with Dennis matter?
Where did I say that any wagon doesn't matter?
You're selectively reading and misinterpreting because the people I said were NAI have posted minimal to zero content. Either you're TMIing them or you're stumbling whole making up reasoning to push me that a full lie. I'm wondering if it's a roundabout way to protect Dennis.
I'm not. I'm just recapping your ISO. Did you not fluff into your Dennis vote?
Don't remember, don't know what this question does to further our conversation though unless you think I'm lying.
My point is that while I could see someone familiar with Dennis possibly seeing something meta-related to justify suspicion at this point, I don't think someone not familiar with Dennis would. If you are seeing something, then please share with the class. If not, it seems like an opportunistic vote.
You didn't say exactly that, but this post IMO feels like discouraging discussion about the first real thing that happened:
Zenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:20 pm
I do not like the Miranda wagon. This is happening too fast
3 out of 24 votes is hardly anything to get worked up about especially with over 47 hours left.
Is this OMGUS I see?
If my vote were a joke, you'd know. Every vote of mine has a reason.
I believe you're misrepresenting so please show your work.
I don't need meta to try and form reads on people. I'm going to ask you something point blank again. Are you village reading Dennis? If so, tell me exactly what's he's done that's outside of his wolf range. I want Dennis to bring the energy I saw him fluffing with yesterday.
Do you agree that Miranda's wagon is suspicious and that it happened too quickly?
What exactly are you calling OMGUS?
"I want Dennis to bring the energy I saw him fluffing with yesterday"
But you also mentioned before that I had no content (which is true), which kinda implies you want me to be serious, so I don't really know what you expect from me now
I'm ready for you to start gamesolving.
Gotcha
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
Coached? Lol
So you’re saying townreading me is a Lev 1 wolf strategy? I disagree. I think it’s rather benign and something town do plenty.
What would you coach her?
I mean the other scum in scumchat would probably have said hey don't do that.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
That's going to be a problem.
What's going to be a problem?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm
Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?
I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
That's going to be a problem.
What's going to be a problem?
Playing this way in my presence.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:23 pm
by potentialsheltervet
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:22 pm
Playing this way in my presence.
Unless you are capable of infusing me with more energy, walking my troublemaker dog, or curing my [redacted] I'll play how I can.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I’d like you to for once, give your thoughts on the merits of the argument here.
I said “This is how I imagine wolves would approach the game and so I’m looking for people who are doing that”. Falcon responded to that specifically by saying this isn’t a “towny mindset”.
I asked Flacon how that’s not a towny mindset, and Falcon REFUSED to answer and tried to deflect and change the subject.
I asked AGAIN, and Falcon responded by falling back to the complaint that I wasn’t asking the people voting for Miranda questions. WHICH IS NOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.
I want you Sloonei, to talk about the actual content here. Not some hand waving about how “this just seems like flacon to you”.
I want you to respond with thoughts about the actual content here.
Truthfully, I do not have anything to say about the content itself. It is Day 1 noise to me, and that is fine. The game needs Day 1 noise. This is more a product of how I go about the game than anything else. These sorts of arguments are not helpful to me as arguments. It is useful as content, though. I find it helpful in that it has established a baseline reading for both you and falcon. It can also be useful later on as things develop.
But it was never my hope or intention to get involved in a discussion of the merits of your point of view or his. If you must know my thoughts on the content, they are as follows: you two are engaged in a Generic Day 1 Argument. I encourage you to continue to the extent that you feel is necessary in order to be satisfied with your read on falcon. But do not expect me to participate in it. I'll flesh out my reads on you two in my own ways.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
by potentialsheltervet
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?