The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:36 pm If the "if one partner dies they both die at endgame" mechanic was revealed to the wolves, I really think the town should have had this information too. Just saying.

Also, what was Bereft's role?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:36 pm If the "if one partner dies they both die at endgame" mechanic was revealed to the wolves, I really think the town should have had this information too. Just saying.

Also, what was Bereft's role?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:35 pm I do kind of regret barring everyone from quoting the previous threads in this merge. I didn't want it, because it seemed antithetical to *the point of the game* (and the theme), but it probably would have been more fair if I'd have just allowed that.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:36 pm If the "if one partner dies they both die at endgame" mechanic was revealed to the wolves, I really think the town should have had this information too. Just saying.

Also, what was Bereft's role?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:41 pm that pocket was warm af ty for checking no issues to report o7

jack's the one who I would send immediate dance party experience to

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:43 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:41 pm that pocket was warm af ty for checking no issues to report o7

jack's the one who I would send immediate dance party experience to

oh y'all don't even know

i kept up the act with jack in our private chat ALL THE WAY TO THE END. my reporting of our chat was genuine, the only things i made up were right at the very end, he was actually gone throughout the evening and never suspected wilgy.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:41 pm I'm not an easy player to pocket. That said, I often find it difficult to fight against thread momentum. I was considering Ranmilia for the entire phase, the NK results and pairing analyses heavily pointed in that direction, but never had the opportunity/confidence to really push it

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:36 pm If the "if one partner dies they both die at endgame" mechanic was revealed to the wolves, I really think the town should have had this information too. Just saying.

Also, what was Bereft's role?

Understandable, and I did consider that. I ended up determining it would be broken to reveal that publicly, since it'd end up implicitly outing players' alignments given the game not ending on a flip.

Bereft was vanilla town killed by a janitor.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:45 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:43 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:41 pm that pocket was warm af ty for checking no issues to report o7

jack's the one who I would send immediate dance party experience to

oh y'all don't even know

i kept up the act with jack in our private chat ALL THE WAY TO THE END. my reporting of our chat was genuine, the only things i made up were right at the very end, he was actually gone throughout the evening and never suspected wilgy.

in other news you have graced me with two gifts

a manic pyxxy town game and a pyxxy missed EOD game

these will come in handy

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:41 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:36 pm If the "if one partner dies they both die at endgame" mechanic was revealed to the wolves, I really think the town should have had this information too. Just saying.

Also, what was Bereft's role?

it was not explicitly revealed to us. only that we could achieve a win if we voted out a living town/town pair. I was and still am not entirely sure what would have happened if a town/wolf was voted out.

We were uh. flying pretty blind and worked very hard to compile information and find Wilgy as the exact target we could win on.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:53 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:41 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:36 pm If the "if one partner dies they both die at endgame" mechanic was revealed to the wolves, I really think the town should have had this information too. Just saying.

Also, what was Bereft's role?

it was not explicitly revealed to us. only that we could achieve a win if we voted out a living town/town pair. I was and still am not entirely sure what would have happened if a town/wolf was voted out.

We were uh. flying pretty blind and worked very hard to compile information and find Wilgy as the exact target we could win on.

thanks for your help @leetic

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:48 pm This list is probably outdated, but there's a good chance @leetic hits the top 15 from this game.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pm In particular, I thought I was being helpful trying to figure out the pairings but that could've ended up costing the game. I feel like unanticipatable elements like that aren't fun. Still, I think the balance was fair otherwise.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pm In particular, I thought I was being helpful trying to figure out the pairings but that could've ended up costing the game. I feel like unanticipatable elements like that aren't fun. Still, I think the balance was fair otherwise.

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:43 pm @Ranmilia pyxxy would like you to iso leetic to gather that they are open wolfing

@Jackofhearts2005 per pyxxy you are being blinded by leetic's past play

He also states that Wilgy doesn't care enough about remaining alive to be a wolf.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:38 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆ @pyxxy @robyn @Jackofhearts2005 @WindwardAway

As you now know I played this game in a very targeted pockety way... to you fine folks in particular I apologize profusely for any mental distress this has caused. You played well. Do not blame yourselves or feel shame. Ingame is ingame, out of game is out of game, and everything I said about out of game stuff holds true, I wish you all the best and it was a pleasure to get to know you better. If you need to vent or would like to talk to me about anything, I understand and am open for it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:48 pm This list is probably outdated, but there's a good chance @leetic hits the top 15 from this game.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:59 pm Thanks to my team and especially Ran for the carry, sorry for falling asleep and then getting wagoned

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:38 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆ @pyxxy @robyn @Jackofhearts2005 @WindwardAway

As you now know I played this game in a very targeted pockety way... to you fine folks in particular I apologize profusely for any mental distress this has caused. You played well. Do not blame yourselves or feel shame. Ingame is ingame, out of game is out of game, and everything I said about out of game stuff holds true, I wish you all the best and it was a pleasure to get to know you better. If you need to vent or would like to talk to me about anything, I understand and am open for it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:48 pm This list is probably outdated, but there's a good chance @leetic hits the top 15 from this game.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pm In particular, I thought I was being helpful trying to figure out the pairings but that could've ended up costing the game. I feel like unanticipatable elements like that aren't fun. Still, I think the balance was fair otherwise.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:38 am Bummer. Gg wolves.

Truly a bummer when 2/3 yeets end in wolf deaths and we immediately enter mylo conditions. Having a really weird out of body experience where I can appreciate how hard the wolves worked to get there, and also how utterly devestated I am that it feels as if nothing really mattered on our side.

That being said, I did not have cape in my POE, and that was due to good distancing play between him and Ilario. So at least I can rest assured I probably wouldn’t have gotten there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:31 pm To expand on a few obvious questions:

The two extra kills entering the merged thread were granted to the mafia team as a planned mechanic. Merging the threads is, on its own power, a town-sided mechanic (and potentially very town-sided). This was meant to counteract at least these two issues:
1) If town enters the merge with one mafia alive from either or both threads, then the elimination of that mafia member implicitly confirms every other player from that thread as town. That is incredibly powerful.
2) The flat numbers are town-sided in that, essentially, a "new" game begins at the merger with numerous cycles of information already gather prior. This provides the town with a handicap.
The two kills were meant to offset these issues.

Also, this Day Five was a "pseudo-endgame" phase. This is also a planned mechanic based upon the numerical game states in each thread at the time they merge. The Lumon thread town had one miss left before an endgame phase (5v1). The Home thread town had already reached an endgame phase (3v2). The merger was meant to reflect the "average" of those two states, which would be "one half miss left before endgame". Obviously "half of a mischop" is not possible, but a conditional game-ending chop that isn't guaranteed was the best approximation in my view. And thematically, the innie-outie dynamic just made it all fit nicely.

In the end, I am not entirely satisfied by my own balance. This was a weird one, clearly, and if I were to do it all again I'd do some things differently. But all in all, it was a thrill to see the game play out and the effort that both teams put forth to get the win. @Delta was awesome too.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:20 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:38 am Bummer. Gg wolves.

Truly a bummer when 2/3 yeets end in wolf deaths and we immediately enter mylo conditions. Having a really weird out of body experience where I can appreciate how hard the wolves worked to get there, and also how utterly devestated I am that it feels as if nothing really mattered on our side.

That being said, I did not have cape in my POE, and that was due to good distancing play between him and Ilario. So at least I can rest assured I probably wouldn’t have gotten there.

we rand town together but we get stuck in different worlds

one day

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:42 pm Amazingly played Mafia. Town did okay. Proud of me & Jack leading 2 out of the 3 wolf lynches (him with Ilario me with Lime Coke). It was fun.