Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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DharmaHelper wrote:Goddamn kids and their rappity rap.
I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
Who's playing?Bass_the_Clever wrote:So what are people'a thoughts on the super bowl
Can you provide some explanations for your list of suspects? I probably missed them, so a summary would be nice.Hedgeowl wrote:I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
Dang civvie Ninja! Way to end the Llama wont die saga. Love playing with you Logan! I only wished we had learned his role, but this saves another lynch from being used. Seems like its time for some analyzing.
My current list of suspects: Dom, rey, and DH. I will he back to explore these peeps further and encourage others to do the same.
Denver Broncos and the Seattle Sea hawks . It should be a great game.insertnamehere wrote:Who's playing?Bass_the_Clever wrote:So what are people'a thoughts on the super bowl
Based on the likely breakdown of votes against john Day 2 the most likely and plausible scenario for john to be lynched over llama Day 2 is if the Pixelated Bukkake was among his voters. And I think we can rule out any of the Day 1 Sorsha voters as being the Pixelated Bukkake since those scenarios don't result in a tie.Flyin' High wrote:The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama Day 2.
Who won? (This is how I get all of my knowledge of sports.)Bass_the_Clever wrote:Denver Broncos and the Seattle Sea hawks . It should be a great game.insertnamehere wrote:Who's playing?Bass_the_Clever wrote:So what are people'a thoughts on the super bowl
That's a nice breakdown, but I'm not the butt. I need to reorganize my thoughts now and try and root out some evil.Flyin' High wrote:Thanks for the votes in the night poll!
RIP in pieces you silly llama.
So, since llama survived 2 lynches I think it's safe to assume he wasn't the Taint, but was Balls Deep. If that's the case, then I don't think the Pixelated Bukkakae role could have voted for Sorsha Day 1.
Things we know or can logically deduce:
We know Day 1 resulted in a tie.
llama was part of Mafia Team 1 (not the team with the Pixelated Bukkake)
Pixelated Bukkake's vote is worth 2 and any player who votes the same as PB but isn't a teammate has a vote worth 1.5
Scenario 1 among the votes for Sorsha:
Player 1 is Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 2
Player 2 is Teammate of PB, vote = 1
Player 3 is llama, not a teammate of PB, vote = 1.5
Vote total = 4.5
Result = NOT A TIE
Scenario 2 among the votes for Sorsha:
Player 1 is Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 2
Player 2 is not a teammate of PB, vote = 1.5
Player 3 is llama, not a teammate of PB, vote = 1.5
Vote total = 5
Result = NOT A TIE
Scenario 3 among the votes for Sorsha:
Player 1 is not Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 1
Player 2 is not Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 1
Player 3 is not Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 1
Penis envy prize winner used extra vote on Sorsha
Vote total = 4
Result = TIE
If someone sees another scenario that can result in a Day 1 tie that I missed, please post it.
Based on the likely breakdown of votes against john Day 2 the most likely and plausible scenario for john to be lynched over llama Day 2 is if the Pixelated Bukkake was among his voters. And I think we can rule out any of the Day 1 Sorsha voters as being the Pixelated Bukkake since those scenarios don't result in a tie.Flyin' High wrote:The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama Day 2.
Players who voted for Sorsha Day 1: Dom, Mister Rearranger, llama
Players who voted for johnjjs Day 2: Dom, insertnamehere, Flyin' High, llama, AceofSpaces, reywaS
Based on this, neither Dom nor llama are the Pixelated Bukkake. Which leaves INH, me, Aces, and reywaS as possible candidates for that role. I am not that role.
I plan to read back through the posts of INH, Aces, and rey to see if anything stands out.
Shit Ace I think he's on to us.Mister Rearranger wrote:INH and Rey both made apology posts to JJ that screamed bullsh*t to me.
DH and Aces have had a very strange dynamic between them that I mean to study closer.
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Really? I would appreciate some reasoning because I myself suspect BWT and would like to know why others do.insertnamehere wrote:I'm going to pretend I'm Vompatti, and not give a reason for my vote, k?
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Why are you suspicious of BWT? I have him in the back of my mind as being suspicious, but need to read back to remember why. He's on my list of people to reread.kneel4justice wrote:Really? I would appreciate some reasoning because I myself suspect BWT and would like to know why others do.
Otay then.kneel4justice wrote: Aside from those I am concerned about BWT, because he said he wasn't worried about the vote as we had plenty of time (day 1) but yet he ended up randomizing (or self voting) and he just didn't seem to be taking things serious, as I'd expect a townie to. He reminded me of WWE where he gave up but that was so early on that he would have had no reason to want to give up, so either he just doesn't want to be a baddie or it has nothing to do with his alignment.
Then Epi for being so quiet (although I am wondering if this is still in character as far as the I don't care if you suspect me attitude & he just has two major levels, extra quiet and extra talkative), who I now feel better about, but don't know if he is just perhaps on an opposing scum team, so I am keeping that in mind. [/color]
You want an explanation for a vote? You must be new around here...kneel4justice wrote:Really? I would appreciate some reasoning because I myself suspect BWT and would like to know why others do.insertnamehere wrote:I'm going to pretend I'm Vompatti, and not give a reason for my vote, k?
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Dom and Rey crossed my radar for their defense of llama early on and as you say confusion over why I said he survived twice. Once that was cleared and FH made a very clear cut case suddenly Rey saw what we were talking about and both of them dropped it completely. Now Rey and llama were an indy teamies who antogonized each other the whole game in AGods recently, so it doesn't seem quite their style if they were baddies together, but I made a note of it.kneel4justice wrote:Can you provide some explanations for your list of suspects? I probably missed them, so a summary would be nice.Hedgeowl wrote:I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
Dang civvie Ninja! Way to end the Llama wont die saga. Love playing with you Logan! I only wished we had learned his role, but this saves another lynch from being used. Seems like its time for some analyzing.
My current list of suspects: Dom, rey, and DH. I will he back to explore these peeps further and encourage others to do the same.
As far as Dom, we got off to a rocky start because we were kind of accusing each other under false circumstances. However, I am suspicious of him because I felt like during his vote making decision he was playing confused, it's completely possible that his confusion was genuine, but to me it just struck me as something a scum would do. Later seeing that the following day he voted JJ while he claimed to be suspicious of Llama but not sure it was Llama's baddie behavior, I am very much thinking he was looking for ways to avoid lynching Llama and they could be baddies.
Rey, I haven't paid enough attention to. I will try to work on that, but nothing caught my eye, obviously.
As for DH, I keep repeating it, but he compared himself (?) to FZ, yet was not out of the gates, IMO and I have to wonder why he wasn't? Aside from that I just haven't got any clear townie vibes, or any strong feeling really, and since he compared himself to FZ I was kind of expecting him to be front and center, maybe I expected too much and that is my fault. Not sure!
Aside from those I am concerned about BWT, because he said he wasn't worried about the vote as we had plenty of time (day 1) but yet he ended up randomizing (or self voting) and he just didn't seem to be taking things serious, as I'd expect a townie to. He reminded me of WWE where he gave up but that was so early on that he would have had no reason to want to give up, so either he just doesn't want to be a baddie or it has nothing to do with his alignment.
Then Epi for being so quiet (although I am wondering if this is still in character as far as the I don't care if you suspect me attitude & he just has two major levels, extra quiet and extra talkative), who I now feel better about, but don't know if he is just perhaps on an opposing scum team, so I am keeping that in mind.
He can be über talkative and then slide back into quiet, especially if multiple games are going on at a time. So I don't tend to think of it as indicative in alignment necessarily.
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reywaS wrote:Well, that's lame.
BWT was brought up by k4j just before FHs post, but rather than addressing any suspicions against him he jumps at the possibility that rey is bad. Doesn't help his case here at all frankly. Maybe I am wrong since I haven't played with rey as much as others, but I tend to think of quiet rey as civ rey. I would love to hear BwT address some suspicions brought against him. It would clearly be in his best interest as well. I won't be here around the vote, so can't wait long either.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Interesting post, FH. I need to read through all those people later, but based on how I feel right now, I would lean towards rey. His quietness is starting to concern me. And I never like "quiet rey" as it is.
Epignosis wrote:I'm a top, not a bottom, asshole.
That's what she saidreywaS wrote:Well, that's lame.
That's what she saidDharmaHelper wrote: Shit Ace I think he's on to us.
That's what she saidEpignosis wrote:I do not understand the pollquestion.
That's what she saidHedgeowl wrote:I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
Dang civvie Ninja! Way to end the Llama wont die saga. Love playing with you Logan! I only wished we had learned his role, but this saves another lynch from being used. Seems like its time for some analyzing.
My current list of suspects: Dom, rey, and DH. I will he back to explore these peeps further and encourage others to do the same.
That's what she saidBass_the_Clever wrote:I went with rey because I feel like he was backing llama up a little to much and it pinged me when he said he didn't look over the roles that well. I think if you were really trying to find mafia you would have read and tried to understand the roles especially after someone survived a day one lynch.
That's what she saidHedgeowl wrote: BWT was brought up by k4j just before FHs post, but rather than addressing any suspicions against him he jumps at the possibility that rey is bad. Doesn't help his case here at all frankly. Maybe I am wrong since I haven't played with rey as much as others, but I tend to think of quiet rey as civ rey. I would love to hear BwT address some suspicions brought against him. It would clearly be in his best interest as well. I won't be here around the vote, so can't wait long either.
Honestly reading through today my list has changed a bit:
BWT
Dom
FH
Rey
That's what she saidHedgeowl wrote:Ok, that was a shorter catch-up than I thought. Thanks for the analysis FH! Based on the assumptions we have to work with I can't see any other options. A lot of us missed the Day 1 vote which may make this harder. Dom was on my radar for his potential votes protecting Llama and still is after your analysis.
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Except that I never comb over the roles with a fine toothed comb....especially early in the game. I'm lazy.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I went with rey because I feel like he was backing llama up a little to much and it pinged me when he said he didn't look over the roles that well. I think if you were really trying to find mafia you would have read and tried to understand the roles especially after someone survived a day one lynch.
I totally understand you keeping me on the list for potential PBers. Hopefully I can prove in time that I am a civvie.Hedgeowl wrote:Ok, that was a shorter catch-up than I thought. Thanks for the analysis FH! Based on the assumptions we have to work with I can't see any other options. A lot of us missed the Day 1 vote which may make this harder. Dom was on my radar for his potential votes protecting Llama and still is after your analysis.
PB would have to be very careful how they voted since we could easily track them down if it was too close or a tie after a few votes. Since they were probably not voting for Llama or Sorsha it's a safer bet that they voted someone unlikely to get many votes or didnt vote at all. What gets me is why would PB vote JJ if llama were a big suspect? Since its likely they weren't on the same baddie team it would make the most sense to vote for llama and get "civv credit" for lynching a baddie. Granted at the time I didn't see the case on JJ and hadn't played with him before, where others really seemed to see something.
It would also really work in the favor of PBs team if someone like FH (potential PB) made an excellent analysis for a potential baddie on the other team, which everyone found really helpful especially once llama was lynched. Then got out in front of the PB analysis and threw out names like Rey, inh, and ace. You have been sooo helpful which I greatly appreciate, but I am trying to remain skeptical as well.
BWT was brought up by k4j just before FHs post, but rather than addressing any suspicions against him he jumps at the possibility that rey is bad. Doesn't help his case here at all frankly. Maybe I am wrong since I haven't played with rey as much as others, but I tend to think of quiet rey as civ rey. I would love to hear BwT address some suspicions brought against him. It would clearly be in his best interest as well. I won't be here around the vote, so can't wait long either.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Interesting post, FH. I need to read through all those people later, but based on how I feel right now, I would lean towards rey. His quietness is starting to concern me. And I never like "quiet rey" as it is.
Honestly reading through today my list has changed a bit:
BWT
Dom
FH
Rey
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I have to leave for work soon, and won't have time to check in before the deadline. I'm not very sure about anyone quite yet, and the only thing that's stuck out is John's self-vote. Instead, I'm going to try something I normally hate people doing because I feel like it: randomizing!
I did a 1-18 generator (in order of everyone's name in the lynch poll), and got #5, so Bass. Sorry man!
He says that john stating he was avoiding acountability with his Day 1 vote set alarm bells off in his head. But isn't randomizing on Day 1 another form of avoiding accountability?birdwithteeth11 wrote:The bolded part in particular really set alarm bells off in my head. But at the same time, I can't see John being THAT obvious about it if he was bad. Or would he pull a WIFOM?...johns2jj wrote:Avoiding accountability was more or less exactly what I stated. I did not want to be partially responsible for a civ 's death. I am starting to get some minor pings on a few people and if they form into something more concrete I will share them I just don't want to point fingers yet.thellama73 wrote:Intentionally voting for someone you don't think is bad because you know they won't get lynched is not my idea of helpful civ behavior. It's a way of avoiding accountability.johns2jj wrote:It is night here and I was relaxing watching a movie so I decided to come back to the thread and check on it. I chose aces because I don't think anyone else will vote him and I won't be partially responsible for a civ death.Flyin' High wrote:John, why did you decide to switch your vote to Aces, specifically?
I sort of feel like john showing back up in the thread after voting himself and receiving a second vote is indicative of being told in BTSC to come back to the thread...but his self-vote post uses the phrasing "don't know who to vote for yet", so I'm unsure.
Gonna stick with my suspicion, but I feel a bit wary since I'm apparently the 6th person to vote him today...)That's what's she saidHedgeowl wrote:
You're right, Epi does swing both ways
Haven't caught up yet, but it appears I need to as votes are starting to role in...
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That's what she saidHedgeowl wrote:Ok, that was a shorter catch-up than I thought. Thanks for the analysis FH! Based on the assumptions we have to work with I can't see any other options. A lot of us missed the Day 1 vote which may make this harder. Dom was on my radar for his potential votes protecting Llama and still is after your analysis.
PB would have to be very careful how they voted since we could easily track them down if it was too close or a tie after a few votes. Since they were probably not voting for Llama or Sorsha it's a safer bet that they voted someone unlikely to get many votes or didnt vote at all. What gets me is why would PB vote JJ if llama were a big suspect? Since its likely they weren't on the same baddie team it would make the most sense to vote for llama and get "civv credit" for lynching a baddie. Granted at the time I didn't see the case on JJ and hadn't played with him before, where others really seemed to see something.
