The Syndicate

The Vision wrote:We have almost no time left. You guys have been more on the pulse than me dince I thought I was silenced. Who would make a credible alternate choice?

I am suspicious of Phoenix and Sunfire the most. I also thought Havoks vote was weird because he ignored my idea that all the votes in the same place was too convenient.

I think you need to re-read the role.

I would be down for a spiral vote

Changing votes is a win win. If qs is bad, he won't be lynched unless the baddie team dropped the ball bigtime. If he's civ, we save him.

cable, you cleatly havent read back. If qs is bad he was the obvious choice for magneto.

Hawkeye your plsn is perfect if only we knew about vote manipulation.

I could move to Sunfire, not sure how i feel about Spiral, or Havok.

Cable wrote:I think you need to re-read the role.

I would be down for a spiral vote

the dsnger room confirmed my thoughts on magnetos role, cable.

Linki w/myself, I DID move to Sunfire

Havok, would you move your vote to someone else?

i think one of the powers magneto had listed in the signup thread was that votes would be split between the players above and below his target on the poll. i thought it was that too, until i reread the roles just now. i guess it was changed to be a 3 target thing, so there's no way of knowing which players the votes could have been spread to.

still, it seems like a very dangerous power that we should very much prepare for :x

if we just make sure that someone else has at least half as many votes as the lead vote getter, we can prevent one of magneto's targets from getting lynched in any circumstance. which is ideal since magneto is unlikely to siphon votes onto his teammates.

linkitis; i think it's very much possible, who should we pick as our alternate?

Spiral for now.

Well, it looks like most people are willing to change to Sunfire. I am willing to put my vote there.

White Queen wrote:I could move to Sunfire, not sure how i feel about Spiral, or Havok.

What do you think about Phoenix?

Cable wrote:I think you need to re-read the role.

I would be down for a spiral vote

Or perhaps you might:

The master of magnetism, Magneto targets one person at Night. On odd Nights, that person will receive the votes of two other selected targets the following Day. On even Nights, that person’s received votes may be halved and distributed evenly to two other selected targets.

Seems like his ability changes depending on the night. It never says his target has to stay the same both nights, that wouldn't make sense based on the secondary targets.

Exodus wrote:

White Queen wrote:I could move to Sunfire, not sure how i feel about Spiral, or Havok.

What do you think about Phoenix?

I have not loved Phoenix' posts either, tbh. But we are in a balls to the walls situation.

White Queen wrote:

Exodus wrote:

White Queen wrote:I could move to Sunfire, not sure how i feel about Spiral, or Havok.

What do you think about Phoenix?

I have not loved Phoenix' posts either, tbh. But we are in a balls to the walls situation.

Yeah, I am just trying to figure out which is the best option. And sadly, who will be able to get enough votes to override manipulation also matters.

Changed my vote to Sunfire. His day 2 vote was really strange, acknowledging that people had reasons to be suspicious of QS but then voting for Hawkeye because he'd voted QS. Felt like he was trying to make a half-hearted defense that wouldn't lead to him looking like he'd tried to save QS by voting TBird. I dunno, it's not a strong ping but I'd rather be safe than sorry if Magneto is messing about with votes. I had a question about that actually: @Epig: What are the rules re: double targeting for Magneto? If he makes someone his primary target one night, can they be a secondary target the following night?

QS just changed his vote to Phoenix.

I did read I have fresh eyes and yours are clouded.
If you cannot talk to me without disdain I might listen you act like I don't know what I am talking about.

The master of magnetism, Magneto targets one person at Night. On odd Nights, that person will receive the votes of two other selected targets the following Day. On even Nights, that person’s received votes may be halved and distributed evenly to two other selected targets.

Show me where it says its not the same person they target night 1.

They target 3 players night 1
(1 to get the votes 2 more to give votes to #1.)
They give their target 2 extra votes the following day
Then the same targets votes are halved the next day between 2 other people..

It says NOTHING about 2 different targets on odd/even nights.

I am staying with my vote and suspicion.

Because now you have to guess who the other two targets were that were picked.

Quicksilver wrote:I didnt feel like Phoenix was genuine when she posted "Oh my bleeding heart etc." And then showed up so sudden this vote and last. Not like I am going to survive, but i will vote her anyway and hope if the Magneto theory is true, it would backfire on them.

QS voted after this.

Exodus wrote:

Quicksilver wrote:I didnt feel like Phoenix was genuine when she posted "Oh my bleeding heart etc." And then showed up so sudden this vote and last. Not like I am going to survive, but i will vote her anyway and hope if the Magneto theory is true, it would backfire on them.

QS voted after this.

Oh thanks! I missed that.

Cable wrote:I did read I have fresh eyes and yours are clouded.
If you cannot talk to me without disdain I might listen you act like I don't know what I am talking about.

The master of magnetism, Magneto targets one person at Night. On odd Nights, that person will receive the votes of two other selected targets the following Day. On even Nights, that person’s received votes may be halved and distributed evenly to two other selected targets.

Show me where it says its not the same person they target night 1.

They target 3 players night 1
(1 to get the votes 2 more to give votes to #1.)
They give their target 2 extra votes the following day
Then the same targets votes are halved the next day between 2 other people..

It says NOTHING about 2 different targets on odd/even nights.

I am staying with my vote and suspicion.

Because now you have to guess who the other two targets were that were picked.

Why wouldn't Magneto be able to change his targets between nights though?

I'm freaking out lol, twenty minutes to go and I have no idea where to put my vote. Reading back thru the ones you are mentioning...

Cable wrote:I did read I have fresh eyes and yours are clouded.
If you cannot talk to me without disdain I might listen you act like I don't know what I am talking about.

The master of magnetism, Magneto targets one person at Night. On odd Nights, that person will receive the votes of two other selected targets the following Day. On even Nights, that person’s received votes may be halved and distributed evenly to two other selected targets.

Show me where it says its not the same person they target night 1.

They target 3 players night 1
(1 to get the votes 2 more to give votes to #1.)
They give their target 2 extra votes the following day
Then the same targets votes are halved the next day between 2 other people..

It says NOTHING about 2 different targets on odd/even nights.

I am staying with my vote and suspicion.

Because now you have to guess who the other two targets were that were picked.

Well what about when either the primary target dies from all the votes he got, or one of the secondary targets dies from their votes? That would be Magneto's aim, to control lynches and kill whoever he likes while protecting his team. I see where you're coming from but in my opinion it doesn't make sense for the power to work like that.

Cable, it would be worded differently. I think you are using this as an excuse to not move your vote and that you are bad, tbh.

The Vision wrote:I'm freaking out lol, twenty minutes to go and I have no idea where to put my vote. Reading back thru the ones you are mentioning...

Well I placed my vote on Sunfire because I thought I read some others who were willing to but if you want to place your vote on Phoenix I will switch to that too because I both find them to have pinged me. Two different types, Sunfire who feels like he made a contradiction and unexplained vote and then Phoenix who feels like she has a guilty conscience and is defending herself before even being accused

Exodus wrote:

Cable wrote:I did read I have fresh eyes and yours are clouded.
If you cannot talk to me without disdain I might listen you act like I don't know what I am talking about.

The master of magnetism, Magneto targets one person at Night. On odd Nights, that person will receive the votes of two other selected targets the following Day. On even Nights, that person’s received votes may be halved and distributed evenly to two other selected targets.

Show me where it says its not the same person they target night 1.

They target 3 players night 1
(1 to get the votes 2 more to give votes to #1.)
They give their target 2 extra votes the following day
Then the same targets votes are halved the next day between 2 other people..

It says NOTHING about 2 different targets on odd/even nights.

I am staying with my vote and suspicion.

Because now you have to guess who the other two targets were that were picked.

Why wouldn't Magneto be able to change his targets between nights though?

Why don't you ask the host? Can I help how the role is clearly written?

Vision show me were it says its a new target?

It is written so clearly why can't you get it - "That person votes are halved for the next day"

Yeah gtk I am bad for explaining role to you that you didn't understand.

You funny boy.

Exodus wrote:

The Vision wrote:I'm freaking out lol, twenty minutes to go and I have no idea where to put my vote. Reading back thru the ones you are mentioning...

Well I placed my vote on Sunfire because I thought I read some others who were willing to but if you want to place your vote on Phoenix I will switch to that too because I both find them to have pinged me. Two different types, Sunfire who feels like he made a contradiction and unexplained vote and then Phoenix who feels like she has a guilty conscience and is defending herself before even being accused

I had felt suspicious of Phoenix, just a gut thing, but didn't feel I could justify it. You do have a point though. I think I'll keep my vote on Sunfire for now actually, if we all keep changing them every minute leading up to the lynch it's gonna get crazy.

Linki - as in the day following the night they are targeted I'd assume Cable.

If I change my vote to Sunfire, he would only need one more, and none of the current QS voters have to change theirs.

Dazzler wrote:

Exodus wrote:

The Vision wrote:I'm freaking out lol, twenty minutes to go and I have no idea where to put my vote. Reading back thru the ones you are mentioning...

Well I placed my vote on Sunfire because I thought I read some others who were willing to but if you want to place your vote on Phoenix I will switch to that too because I both find them to have pinged me. Two different types, Sunfire who feels like he made a contradiction and unexplained vote and then Phoenix who feels like she has a guilty conscience and is defending herself before even being accused

I had felt suspicious of Phoenix, just a gut thing, but didn't feel I could justify it. You do have a point though. I think I'll keep my vote on Sunfire for now actually, if we all keep changing them every minute leading up to the lynch it's gonna get crazy.

Linki - as in the day following the night they are targeted I'd assume Cable.

Well if we both changed to Phoenix we'd have more than Sunfire currently has lol

Linki unless hawkeye votes lol

I'm going to vote Cable. He subs in and right away votes qs after the thread was asked not to, and then badgers in a time crunch. Ive never seen a civ sub in like that. Ive got to run, voting now.

I give up seriously do not know why I said I would sub into this game on day 3 knowing nothing about the XMen.

Voting for Quicksilver, for reasons previously stated (and I'm running out of time! Oops...) Let's see if we're all right about this...

The Vision wrote:I'm going to vote Cable. He subs in and right away votes qs after the thread was asked not to, and then badgers in a time crunch. Ive never seen a civ sub in like that. Ive got to run, voting now.

I feel you but isn't that kind of wasting a vote? That's not going to stop the QS split that you're worried about. This makes me nervous!?

Phoenix wrote:Voting for Quicksilver, for reasons previously stated (and I'm running out of time! Oops...) Let's see if we're all right about this...

Dont bother voting me I quit.

Exodus wrote:

Phoenix wrote:Voting for Quicksilver, for reasons previously stated (and I'm running out of time! Oops...) Let's see if we're all right about this...

Errrrr

Phoenix wrote:Voting for Quicksilver, for reasons previously stated (and I'm running out of time! Oops...) Let's see if we're all right about this...

What?

Exodus wrote:

The Vision wrote:I'm going to vote Cable. He subs in and right away votes qs after the thread was asked not to, and then badgers in a time crunch. Ive never seen a civ sub in like that. Ive got to run, voting now.

I feel you but isn't that kind of wasting a vote? That's not going to stop the QS split that you're worried about. This makes me nervous!?

I agree with this. This IS wasting a vote, and there goes the Havok one too down the drain.

Fuck! 5 minutes. Do we change to Phoenix?

Hawkeye wrote:Fuck! 5 minutes. Do we change to Phoenix?

Well if none of the Sunfire voters change he's dead anyway so hopefully we're safe-ish?

I will change to Phoenix if y'all do. I will keep refreshing and waiting LOL

i switched my vote to sunfire, if i'm understanding correctly, that will put her in the right numerical spot right? i'd been feeling better about her today, but it was mostly due to her thoughts on quicksilver, which.... i think may be invalidated if she's a baddie aware of the vote suction thing happening on quick silver? idk this whole thing is very confusing but everyone is being very frantic, and this feels like the right move

Dazzler wrote: @Epig: What are the rules re: double targeting for Magneto? If he makes someone his primary target one night, can they be a secondary target the following night?

Magneto can make a primary target a secondary target the next Night. Two separate things. Magneto, may not make a primary target one Night the primary target on the subsequent Night.

Oh ok. We don't need to move. But Phoenix's vote does not sit well with me.

Dazzler wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:Fuck! 5 minutes. Do we change to Phoenix?

Well if none of the Sunfire voters change he's dead anyway so hopefully we're safe-ish?

I see Banshee changed his. I do not like what Vision just did though, and neither what Phoenix.

Exodus wrote:I will change to Phoenix if y'all do. I will keep refreshing and waiting LOL

Done

Hawkeye wrote:

Dazzler wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:Fuck! 5 minutes. Do we change to Phoenix?

Well if none of the Sunfire voters change he's dead anyway so hopefully we're safe-ish?

I see Banshee changed his. I do not like what Vision just did though, and neither what Phoenix.

Right but I am confused why Vision would cause this stir and then not vote for someone that actually matters.

White Queen wrote:

Exodus wrote:I will change to Phoenix if y'all do. I will keep refreshing and waiting LOL

Done

there's not enough to switch, switch back lol