The Syndicate

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:Oh and in reference to Zeek's first remark, what i currently fear is that the indy attempted to kill a guardian or Ganon which would mean that we don't learn who:
1. Attempted to kill
2. Who was the kill was attempted on.

Why do you think the indy tried to kill?? And if they had tried to kill an Overworld or Underworld character, how would we know who they were or who they tried to kill?

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:Oh and in reference to Zeek's first remark, what i currently fear is that the indy attempted to kill a guardian or Ganon which would mean that we don't learn who:
1. Attempted to kill
2. Who was the kill was attempted on.

Why do you think the indy tried to kill?? And if they had tried to kill an Overworld or Underworld character, how would we know who they were or who they tried to kill?

I don't have reason to believe that's what happen, but it would explain what happen N1 as the hypothesis that hyrule can kill without buying a item was proven false. In most games i've played, if a kill was attempted but blocked, it shows up that way in the night post. The fact that it wasn't mentioned either means no one tired to kill or that kill attempts aren't reported.

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:Oh and in reference to Zeek's first remark, what i currently fear is that the indy attempted to kill a guardian or Ganon which would mean that we don't learn who:
1. Attempted to kill
2. Who was the kill was attempted on.

Why do you think the indy tried to kill?? And if they had tried to kill an Overworld or Underworld character, how would we know who they were or who they tried to kill?

I don't have reason to believe that's what happen, but it would explain what happen N1 as the hypothesis that hyrule can kill without buying a item was proven false. In most games i've played, if a kill was attempted but blocked, it shows up that way in the night post. The fact that it wasn't mentioned either means no one tired to kill or that kill attempts aren't reported.

Wait I don't understand. How was this proven?

Epignosis wrote:

Day 3: Twelve in a Blue Moon

MovingPictures07 has been eliminated by Link’s sword.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Because bombs and arrows cost 40 rupees apiece, and based on how many rupees it's been possible to get so far, I figured that an active goodie would probably get there today or tomorrow.

That sounds reasonable.

I have a couple theories about Link now. Either he gets to kill on even nights, or he may attempt to kill every night, but he may not always succeed. This would be where the old man's capabilities come in, to strengthen Link's sword, and increase his odds for a successful kill. Someone may have survived Night 1, and we wouldn't know.

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote: <snip>
I don't get this strategy. As far as I know, the goodies do not need the Triforce to win; just whoever gets it wins automatically as an indy.

No, but Baddies do, and by voting to kill someone who wasn't a main suspect n2 and d2, we reduce the chance that they get someone they predicted. They need the triforce to win, so lynching someone who's been off the radar is in our best interest.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Made wrote: While yes, they are our top suspects (based on vote received/general night time consistence)

I am?

RIP MP.

you, and Sabie recieved 2 votes, Llama received 3. It's more than most others.

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:Oh and in reference to Zeek's first remark, what i currently fear is that the indy attempted to kill a guardian or Ganon which would mean that we don't learn who:
1. Attempted to kill
2. Who was the kill was attempted on.

Why do you think the indy tried to kill?? And if they had tried to kill an Overworld or Underworld character, how would we know who they were or who they tried to kill?

I don't have reason to believe that's what happen, but it would explain what happen N1 as the hypothesis that hyrule can kill without buying a item was proven false. In most games i've played, if a kill was attempted but blocked, it shows up that way in the night post. The fact that it wasn't mentioned either means no one tired to kill or that kill attempts aren't reported.

Wait I don't understand. How was this proven?

the night post said killed "With link's Sword" which means they didn't use something from the store.

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:Oh and in reference to Zeek's first remark, what i currently fear is that the indy attempted to kill a guardian or Ganon which would mean that we don't learn who:
1. Attempted to kill
2. Who was the kill was attempted on.

Why do you think the indy tried to kill?? And if they had tried to kill an Overworld or Underworld character, how would we know who they were or who they tried to kill?

I don't have reason to believe that's what happen, but it would explain what happen N1 as the hypothesis that hyrule can kill without buying a item was proven false. In most games i've played, if a kill was attempted but blocked, it shows up that way in the night post. The fact that it wasn't mentioned either means no one tired to kill or that kill attempts aren't reported.

Wait I don't understand. How was this proven?

the night post said killed "With link's Sword" which means they didn't use something from the store.

Did you mean "the hypothesis that hyrule CAN'T kill without being an item was proven false"?

Russtifinko wrote:
But you're missing something here, Made. Civs wouldn't be any more likely than the goodies to guess someone who's not a top suspect; in fact, they may be LESS likely to do so, since they don't have advantage of spreading out choices like the goodies.

And also, SOMEONE is going to win the Triforce no matter what. If not by predicting who dies, then by winning the "describe a Night power" contest. So we actually don't have any way at all of even being reasonably sure a goodie doesn't get it. I think it's a bad idea to throw off our whole lynch strategy since that's the case.

Epignosis wrote:
So...it is power you desire. Very well.

Describe to the Host the greatest Night power you have ever had...or the one you always wish you had.

“Is that all?” you ask? Ha! Of course not, fool!

In your private message containing the above, you may choose (or choose not) to grasp at the Triforce of Power and win it for yourself.

To attempt this feat, you must state who is going to be lynched on Day 3.

And then make it happen.

Made wrote: Yeah, that's what I meant

Russtifinko wrote: I think one of fingers or MM is very likely a goodie, to answer your question, llama. I've been suspicious of fingers basically since we started playing, and I'd lean her, but MM has been taking some flak. He's seemed helpful to me fwiw, but who knows.

Russtifinko wrote:Hey llama, did you participate in the Moon game last night? I don't wanna know your submissions or what you won or anything, just participation. Curious about something. Anyone else, please feel free to answer too.

Russtifinko wrote:I do NOT think voting Boogs today is a good idea.

Linki: But if no one guessed right, the Triforce wouldn't be given out?

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote: Yeah, that's what I meant

Cool, thanks.

Russtifinko wrote: I think one of fingers or MM is very likely a goodie, to answer your question, llama. I've been suspicious of fingers basically since we started playing, and I'd lean her, but MM has been taking some flak. He's seemed helpful to me fwiw, but who knows.

When you say goodie, you mean baddie, yes?

Russtifinko wrote:Hey llama, did you participate in the Moon game last night? I don't wanna know your submissions or what you won or anything, just participation. Curious about something. Anyone else, please feel free to answer too.

I think you know how I feel about non-participants, Russ. :P

Made wrote: two hours left.

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:I do NOT think voting Boogs today is a good idea.

Linki: But if no one guessed right, the Triforce wouldn't be given out?

I agree.
And I think so??? I mean if no one wins the contest, no one should get the piece right? ~ two hours left.

Rereading Bass, Sabie, and Spints to see if i find anything there.

zeek wrote:I have to get an early night, so I'm going to vote now... and it's going to be for MM. This is not a NO U because he's voted for me, but his vote is part of the reason I'm voting that way. Generally his posts have been somewhat pingy, but there's no substantial suspicion. It's gut I suppose.

After Hedgeowl's lynch, he doesn't seem to have learnt from lynching someone purely because they're not all that involved. I appreciate he said he was voting for me for now, but his criticisms of my quieter game were already addressed. I've just moved stores and have a big job on my hands, 12 hour days and such.

I won't deny I'm a bit cranky and that may have something to do with it, but I have to go to bed and I'm not completely feeling a Boogs vote right now. Though I think his point of the money game players is ridiculous. I

thellama73 wrote:And Dom. DOM! Dom has posted one word today. ONE WORD. And that word was "llama." Come on man, you can do better than that.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why do people keep saying that I am getting flak? I'm not. I've gotten a couple votes, but they weren't even warrented. What gives?

Linki:

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:I do NOT think voting Boogs today is a good idea.

Linki: But if no one guessed right, the Triforce wouldn't be given out?

I agree.
And I think so??? I mean if no one wins the contest, no one should get the piece right? ~ two hours left.

Rereading Bass, Sabie, and Spints to see if i find anything there.

I just don't see this. I think Epi will give it out regardless. But that's just me.

Also, for the record, I don't KNOW Boogs isn't a Hyrulean. He very well could be. However, as stated, I think we have a MUCH higher chance of getting a goodie if we lynch fingers or MM today, and of those I'm more comfortable with fingers.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why do people keep saying that I am getting flak? I'm not. I've gotten a couple votes, but they weren't even warrented. What gives?

Linki:

Seriously, did I say something funny? Why the

S~V~S wrote:Why exactly do you suspect Sabie again?

S~V~S wrote:I am voting for Russ. When he said Splits was piggybacking MP, and it was pointed out to him that that was not the case, he was like, well, um, ok, but I suspect her anyhow.

Thats just weird, and not the kind of thing I expect to see from Russ.

i will be in and out of here the rest of the PM, so if anything better comes up, I might move it, but as of now, this is what most gets my eye.

fingersplints wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Made wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:I do NOT think voting Boogs today is a good idea.

Linki: But if no one guessed right, the Triforce wouldn't be given out?

I agree.
And I think so??? I mean if no one wins the contest, no one should get the piece right? ~ two hours left.

Rereading Bass, Sabie, and Spints to see if i find anything there.

I just don't see this. I think Epi will give it out regardless. But that's just me.

Also, for the record, I don't KNOW Boogs isn't a Hyrulean. He very well could be. However, as stated, I think we have a MUCH higher chance of getting a goodie if we lynch fingers or MM today, and of those I'm more comfortable with fingers.

You have a 0% chance of getting a hyrulian with me. I still don't even understand what I have done that you suspect. You voted me yesterday for incorrect reasons. and when I asked you yesterday about that post you said something like you couldn't even remember what you meant to say. It seems like no matter what I do you are just trying to find some reason to suspect me at this point. I'll keep addressing whatever you want to bring to the table against me, but if you really are trying to hunt baddies you are barking up the wrong tree.

S~V~S wrote:I am voting for Russ. When he said Splits was piggybacking MP, and it was pointed out to him that that was not the case, he was like, well, um, ok, but I suspect her anyhow.

Thats just weird, and not the kind of thing I expect to see from Russ.

i will be in and out of here the rest of the PM, so if anything better comes up, I might move it, but as of now, this is what most gets my eye.

fingersplints wrote:Russ, was there supposed to be more to this? Your quote from SVS has nothing after it.

Russtifinko wrote:

sabie12 wrote:Well I'm suspicious of the Hedge voters. I didn't see a whole lot there that pinged me about her and she did turn up civ so I'll be paying attention to them for the next lynch. I just need some time to look over everything. Too much going on with halloween and such right now.

I agree with giving more of a look at Hedge voters. It just seemed so drummed-up to me at the time, even before Hedge flipped civ.

S~V~S wrote:Russ, this was MPs first post about Hedge; he referenced Splints suspicions.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay no death!

Nice job, those who worked on the riddle.

Made wrote:Yo MP,
If you feel that d2 shouldn't begin with you, where do you feel it should begin?

Very good question, sir! I'm not honestly quite sure yet, I'll have to think about it myself. However, I did wonder if there was a push to lynch you over Sabie due to saving a teammate OR whether a push to lynch both of you could have been bandwagoned by some baddies.

I also wonder if splints is onto something with Hedge's posts being all jokey too, that was a good point.

So this is saying MP jumped on splints' suspicion and not the other way around, right?

If so I think a harder look needs to be taken at MP. However, I still think the suspicion itself was a little out there, and I have been getting bad vibes from fingers, so I stand by that suspicion too.

This is Splints, 1:15 Tuesday

fingersplints wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I don't know, I always find Sabie's "oh gosh, how does this work? I don't know what I'm doing!" schtick suspicious, but she has done it in a bunch of games now, so I don't know if it means anything.

hedgeowl' bothered me more then sabie's. Sabie has otherwise contributed. Hedgie has not.

Linki, MP is Alex

Russtifinko wrote:Voted MM. Because why not. I think he has an ok chance of being bad. llama hasn't really pinged me, so no use voting him, and this lynch isn't going on anyone other than llama or Boogs. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Voted MM. Because why not. I think he has an ok chance of being bad. llama hasn't really pinged me, so no use voting him, and this lynch isn't going on anyone other than llama or Boogs. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

llama, let's combine our votes somewhere against all these hooligans voting willy-nilly...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Voted MM. Because why not. I think he has an ok chance of being bad. llama hasn't really pinged me, so no use voting him, and this lynch isn't going on anyone other than llama or Boogs. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

llama, let's combine our votes somewhere against all these hooligans voting willy-nilly...

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Voted MM. Because why not. I think he has an ok chance of being bad. llama hasn't really pinged me, so no use voting him, and this lynch isn't going on anyone other than llama or Boogs. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

llama, let's combine our votes somewhere against all these hooligans voting willy-nilly...

I do think the votes for you are really weird. Dom keeps saying you need to be stopped without explanation.

Made wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Voted MM. Because why not. I think he has an ok chance of being bad. llama hasn't really pinged me, so no use voting him, and this lynch isn't going on anyone other than llama or Boogs. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

llama, let's combine our votes somewhere against all these hooligans voting willy-nilly...

I'm willing to hop on this train assuming we don't lynch Boogs and Llama is on board. Drive by votes is not sitting right with me, and A piece of power is at risk.

Russtifinko wrote:Voted MM. Because why not. I think he has an ok chance of being bad.