The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:38 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:34 pmNo - he's told what action he gets at the start of each night. So he did have a roleblock.

Also I'm pretty sure we have to exe Tim on game theory - we can't leave someone alive if we strongly suspect they lied about their claim.

Well, I didn't really. I brought up that it's a completely weird lie to just come with out of the blue. But whatever.

I'm going to bed. Don't ask me why his block didn't go through, cause I don't know. Maybe it actually have to do with Ted, but that's also a bit farfetched. Strongman kill is the only thing that is an obvious action for Ted that is unblockable and obviously that was not used.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:38 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:34 pm What's keeping Alison from being scum again?

I'm mech cleared of being scum and have townsided too much to be a 3P.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:41 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:33 pm @Alison, I'm No Surprises from OK Computer.

There's flipped scum on this album.

[mention]Poison Chan[/mention], check Wilgy to see if this claim is truthful.

[mention]Herm[/mention], check some other album (bends or something) to lower the range of albums that scum can safely claim in.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm**

Hm. What do we think is the probability of Wilgy being 3P or the probability of there being 2 scum in the same album? Because there's no use verifying Wilgy is OK Computer if we have to exe him anyway because he could be 3P or there could be 2 wolves in Ok Computer. I'll sleep on it.

In the meantime, [mention]MacDougall[/mention] do you have any thoughts? You came up with the original plan so I'd be interested in hearing what you think the best moves are for town.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm**

Ugh. I should memorise this, but what role did Ted claim btw?

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:43 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm Ugh. I should memorise this, but what role did Ted claim btw?

Vote Manipulation Nullifier, I believe. He visits someone, and if votes by or against them count for any number other than 1, they count for 1.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:43 pm**

im gonna be a little less present tomorrow (and will be one handed for a while when typing)

I've got a track target in mind, but if anyone in the towncore would prefer to send me a pool of trackable people, just mention me

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:44 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:43 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm Ugh. I should memorise this, but what role did Ted claim btw?
Vote Manipulation Nullifier, I believe. He visits someone, and if votes by or against them count for any number other than 1, they count for 1.

Ah. Ok. Seems legit tbh. Did any of the flipped scum have vote manipulation?
I was thinking maybe Ted blocked Tim, coin flip or mafia block over town block, but that seems like a stretch.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:45 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:43 pm im gonna be a little less present tomorrow (and will be one handed for a while when typing)

I've got a track target in mind, but if anyone in the towncore would prefer to send me a pool of trackable people, just mention me

Well, you know who I'm tracking, so let's not double =p

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:46 pm**

At least we know for sure it’s 2 scum one rogue left

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:47 pm**

My hair is a fucking mess. This has been a public service announcement.

And good night. ^^

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 pm**

Dizzy, Herm, LC, Nanook, Oddmerta, Samusamu is my tentative track pool, [mention]dyachei[/mention]. I think any of them would be decent tracks.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:51 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 pmWhat?

I know my own alignment silly, thus Tim's alignment makes me read you differently? Also at the same time being aware that my alignment will be revealed after I die?
But what does Tim have to do with your alignment? It's just a weird way to say it. Like, you and me, we aren't connected by the whole claim business thingy. If I understood all that correctly.

Aren't you the one that raised the fact that Tim lied re my N1 random glance?

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:53 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 pm Dizzy, Herm, LC, Nanook, Oddmerta, Samusamu is my tentative track pool, @dyachei. I think any of them would be decent tracks.

Not samu. Hello

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:56 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:51 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 pmWhat?

I know my own alignment silly, thus Tim's alignment makes me read you differently? Also at the same time being aware that my alignment will be revealed after I die?
But what does Tim have to do with your alignment? It's just a weird way to say it. Like, you and me, we aren't connected by the whole claim business thingy. If I understood all that correctly.
Aren't you the one that raised the fact that Tim lied re my N1 random glance?

You mean the seeing one player visit Ted? Cause no. Read my later posts. You saw me and not Tim visit Ted. Looked like he lied at first, but it just seemed like a really unnecessary lie that scum doesn’t make. Didn’t know for sure, but now we do.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 pm Dizzy, Herm, LC, Nanook, Oddmerta, Samusamu is my tentative track pool, @dyachei. I think any of them would be decent tracks.
Not samu. Hello

Good point. Minus Samu then.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

I fell asleep and missed EOD. Tim, I'm sorry but you looked like the right yeet to me. I appreciate the fact that you kept throwing out ideas/thoughts until the yeet and I promise I will consider what you had to say.

My assignment for the night is Radishes but I'll be around in the morning in case we want to change the plan.

I'm out for the night now unless we have important business to do.

Oh, dya I agree with Alison's list except Samu because Dizzy has him.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:28 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm Hm. What do we think is the probability of Wilgy being 3P or the probability of there being 2 scum in the same album? Because there's no use verifying Wilgy is OK Computer if we have to exe him anyway because he could be 3P or there could be 2 wolves in Ok Computer. I'll sleep on it.

In the meantime, @MacDougall do you have any thoughts? You came up with the original plan so I'd be interested in hearing what you think the best moves are for town.

I don't see why the plan should be altered at this point.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:30 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 pm Dizzy, Herm, LC, Nanook, Oddmerta, Samusamu is my tentative track pool, @dyachei. I think any of them would be decent tracks.

Why would you want to track one of your cop clears?

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:51 pm**

mafia is all about mindreading ppl right friends

so here is a mindreading exercise

i am thinking of 1 person from this game for each 1 of these songs

song A:

song B:

song C:

song D:

song E:

if u guess all 5 ppl im thinking of u are the greatest mafia player that has ever existed

hint: A isn't samusamu

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 am**

Tim is dead and town leading TSP to say “I have told you so”

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm Hm. What do we think is the probability of Wilgy being 3P or the probability of there being 2 scum in the same album? Because there's no use verifying Wilgy is OK Computer if we have to exe him anyway because he could be 3P or there could be 2 wolves in Ok Computer. I'll sleep on it.

In the meantime, @MacDougall do you have any thoughts? You came up with the original plan so I'd be interested in hearing what you think the best moves are for town.

Get Bayes on this right away

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:25 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 pm Dizzy, Herm, LC, Nanook, Oddmerta, Samusamu is my tentative track pool, @dyachei. I think any of them would be decent tracks.
Why would you want to track one of your cop clears?

because 3P equity. the reason why I cop checked nook was because I was afraid of him being 3P - you can see that I was like "oops I fucked up" when I realized my cop doesn't find 3Ps. I'm going to make an educated guess and say that the 3P has to visit people to use their role, which is why a track on nanook isn't a bad idea because he has no reason to be visiting people at night so if he's tracked to someone that's very suspicious

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:34 am**

I’m definitely visiting someone tonight tho

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:03 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:34 am I’m definitely visiting someone tonight tho

why do you want the extra vote that bad

stay home, it will only make you look bad if you are caught visiting

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:07 am**

Well that's a shame, I won the rock paper scissors and everything

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:57 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:03 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:34 am I’m definitely visiting someone tonight tho
why do you want the extra vote that bad

stay home, it will only make you look bad if you are caught visiting

I mean I’m already cleared not-mafia so

And it should be easy for anyone that knows me to figure out I wouldn’t have ever a) forgotten to submit an action and b) worked to clear myself if I were 3p so

I don’t really care about looking bad or not, tbh, I’m never getting TKed this game so it doesn’t matter

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:59 am**

(More importantly Mac told me to and also if ted targets me and I successfully target the NK it should confirm his claim)

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:00 am**

It also doesnt fuck anyone up—watcher is dead, if a tracker sees me go nowhere or sees me go to not the NK it’s meaningless with two mafia alive. I don’t see the downside tbh

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:57 am**

I suppose I'm wrong about spf too, the whole premise being tim, spf and Hally banter was a 2 wolves 1 town situation

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:00 am It also doesnt fuck anyone up—watcher is dead, if a tracker sees me go nowhere or sees me go to not the NK it’s meaningless with two mafia alive. I don’t see the downside tbh

Nanook, you're wrong about your assumptions though. Check the plan for tonight.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:46 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:00 am It also doesnt fuck anyone up—watcher is dead, if a tracker sees me go nowhere or sees me go to not the NK it’s meaningless with two mafia alive. I don’t see the downside tbh
Nanook, you're wrong about your assumptions though. Check the plan for tonight.

Quote it and tag me

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:53 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:46 am
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:00 am It also doesnt fuck anyone up—watcher is dead, if a tracker sees me go nowhere or sees me go to not the NK it’s meaningless with two mafia alive. I don’t see the downside tbh
Nanook, you're wrong about your assumptions though. Check the plan for tonight.
Quote it and tag me

Note Radishes action is watcher:

viewtopic.php?p=662122#p662122

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:54 am**

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] ^ ^

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:57 am**

Ok...you’re aware that in that post you linked, part of the quoted plan is:

Nanook target the towniest person that doesn't have cover so you have the best chance to get your double vote.

So uh

I’m not seeing where I’m supposed to stay home tbh

And a watcher should expect there’s a good chance of seeing me near a NK anyways tbh, I’m already cleared not-mafia so it literally does not matter

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:01 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:57 am Ok...you’re aware that in that post you linked, part of the quoted plan is:

Nanook target the towniest person that doesn't have cover so you have the best chance to get your double vote.
So uh

I’m not seeing where I’m supposed to stay home tbh

And a watcher should expect there’s a good chance of seeing me near a NK anyways tbh, I’m already cleared not-mafia so it literally does not matter

Ok, I was talking about your assumption that there was no watcher but I may have misunderstood your intent. Just ignore me.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:01 am**

What I’m saying is that me moving doesn’t mess anyone up cause a track or watch that sees me go to the NK is irrelevant given I’m already confirmed not-mafia, and me moving is good because it has the potential to catch a watcher or a tracker or ted’s vote nullifying thing in a lie

It’s low chance of reward but it’s also zero risk so I’m gonna do it

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:02 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:01 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:57 am Ok...you’re aware that in that post you linked, part of the quoted plan is:

Nanook target the towniest person that doesn't have cover so you have the best chance to get your double vote.
So uh

I’m not seeing where I’m supposed to stay home tbh

And a watcher should expect there’s a good chance of seeing me near a NK anyways tbh, I’m already cleared not-mafia so it literally does not matter
Ok, I was talking about your assumption that there was no watcher but I may have misunderstood your intent. Just ignore me.

I mean, sure, but whether there’s a watcher or not is actually irrelevant and it’s my bad for sort of garbling that sentence. I’m already confirmed not mafia so seeing me at a NK literally does not matter.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:11 am**

[mention]Alison[/mention] or [mention]MacDougall[/mention] is there an updated full night plan that incorporates PC and Herm's actions? If there is and you produced it I will just go through your ISO. I don't remember seeing one though.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:44 am**

[mention]Long Con[/mention] hey buddy please claim your song and album if thats alright

[mention]Herm[/mention] please check whatever album Long Con claims

[mention]Poison Chan[/mention] please lie detect Long Con's song claim

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:19 pm**

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:20 pm**

Should I check long con or Dr. Wilgy? What did long con claim?

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:21 pm**

Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:19 pmHey

Hi

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:24 pm**

The 3P Rogue person is probably deep within the Town core.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:26 pm**

I was planning to check King of the Limbs album.

Rogue is probably in the Thieves Album, but that's just me guessing.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:26 pm**

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:20 pm Should I check long con or Dr. Wilgy? What did long con claim?

Long Con didn't claim.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:27 pm**

How are you doing, Poison?

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:28 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:01 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:57 am Ok...you’re aware that in that post you linked, part of the quoted plan is:

Nanook target the towniest person that doesn't have cover so you have the best chance to get your double vote.
So uh

I’m not seeing where I’m supposed to stay home tbh

And a watcher should expect there’s a good chance of seeing me near a NK anyways tbh, I’m already cleared not-mafia so it literally does not matter
Ok, I was talking about your assumption that there was no watcher but I may have misunderstood your intent. Just ignore me.

The Watcher is dead. Hally was Watcher.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:32 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:53 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:46 am
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:00 am It also doesnt fuck anyone up—watcher is dead, if a tracker sees me go nowhere or sees me go to not the NK it’s meaningless with two mafia alive. I don’t see the downside tbh
Nanook, you're wrong about your assumptions though. Check the plan for tonight.
Quote it and tag me
Note Radishes action is watcher:

viewtopic.php?p=662122#p662122

Radishes and Wilgy have Watcher actions?

They're probably scum.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:37 pm**

DrWilgy is likely one of the scum.

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