The Syndicate

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:00 pm I mean it quite literally does without even considering anything else. If there's 8 town and 2 mafia, each player is 20% chance to be mafia. If we then say Alison is town, there's 7 town 2 mafia, meaning each player has a 22% chance of being mafia. Regardless, Alison explained it well enough why Nutella is in her post. And if Alison is town, the post is to be believed. I think Alison is town. I agree with her post.

Could you formulate a theoretical nutella team that doesn't have me in it?

Esooa I don't think your progression has been genuine

How did you swap sides so abruptly and without consideration

nutella/Nanook/tutuu would be the ultimate JJJ's Worst Game scenario.

In my own POE I dunno about a fit. Maybe Omega if I squeeze.

nutella+tutuu+grogu

Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm nutella+tutuu+grogu

Forgot Grogu. I suppose he fits with almost anyone

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

Or she laid out her plan in scum chat that your only viable way forward was to try and bury me

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?

To conceptualize mafia nutella, I kind of need a mafia Nanook. For he and I to both be this wrong as town all game long just sounds improbable

I think Alison went for me specifically *because* I've been so towny and her "solve" is meant to seem almost outlandish in the sense that it would look like something only a townie would come up with

This is a layered thought I may not be expressing well but I think it makes a lot of sense within Alison's strategic style

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?

I didn't like Nutellas response to it, and her point about she wouldn't have been getting bussed was IMO accurate. The thread state around her feels like she doesn't have partners rn. I've not seen her wolf so I could be wrong on this, but yeah. In a similar vain I disagree with a lot of the teams you make with Alison and don't think she has many if any viable ones

Part of me worries Alison wants to flip nutella green, because that would do nothing at all to make me look any better and I'd be the next target.

Like her goal is to survive the day but she needs to make it look like she's okay with dying "as long as people sheep her solve" so she needs to make it look like she has a unique enough solve

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one

Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?

I didn't like Nutellas response to it, and her point about she wouldn't have been getting bussed was IMO accurate. The thread state around her feels like she doesn't have partners rn. I've not seen her wolf so I could be wrong on this, but yeah. In a similar vain I disagree with a lot of the teams you make with Alison and don't think she has many if any viable ones

Again I think the point about her getting bussed is moot bc someone like you would def be deeper than her anyway, and also if she's not the mafia PR she would want to go before them

Means alison is likely not the vig which would be nice to get today rip

But still she is trying to fight her chop still with reverse psychology so idk

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one

Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?

Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway

None of her voters look like likely "bussers" to me. Only Omega fits at all, at least by my off-hand view. So that dialogue doesn't seem relevant.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine


vanity vote cuz it looks like alison is going thru.

i still think alison is town here.

Also true

Her point was sort of that she wouldn't be the first wolf to die but I don't think that holds up in this gamestate at all

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:12 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?

I didn't like Nutellas response to it, and her point about she wouldn't have been getting bussed was IMO accurate. The thread state around her feels like she doesn't have partners rn. I've not seen her wolf so I could be wrong on this, but yeah. In a similar vain I disagree with a lot of the teams you make with Alison and don't think she has many if any viable ones

Again I think the point about her getting bussed is moot bc someone like you would def be deeper than her anyway, and also if she's not the mafia PR she would want to go before them

I mean first of all I'm blatantly town

second of all I'm never consdering this point

third of all, no, a team of Alison+Esooa+1 does not decide to bus in any way. Like at all. Why would we do that. We would own the thread

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:12 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?

I didn't like Nutellas response to it, and her point about she wouldn't have been getting bussed was IMO accurate. The thread state around her feels like she doesn't have partners rn. I've not seen her wolf so I could be wrong on this, but yeah. In a similar vain I disagree with a lot of the teams you make with Alison and don't think she has many if any viable ones

Again I think the point about her getting bussed is moot bc someone like you would def be deeper than her anyway, and also if she's not the mafia PR she would want to go before them

I mean first of all I'm blatantly town

second of all I'm never consdering this point

third of all, no, a team of Alison+Esooa+1 does not decide to bus in any way. Like at all. Why would we do that. We would own the thread

Yeah well you're not bussing

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one

Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?

Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway

I remember looking at post game chat of my recent wolf game

"Here is why Mac is obviously town while Esooa is wolf

Mac is trying to read the game and evaluate players

Esooa is saying 'I'm not in my range'"

He was right

saying ur out of ur scumrange is scummy

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:18 pm saying ur out of ur scumrange is scummy

yes

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine


vanity vote cuz it looks like alison is going thru.

i still think alison is town here.

this also seems like reverse psychology to sound like my wagon isn't viable but quietly hoping it can compete

idk

still mostly think you are the wrong town here and don't fit in the team but this post felt weord

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one

Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?

Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway

I remember looking at post game chat of my recent wolf game

"Here is why Mac is obviously town while Esooa is wolf

Mac is trying to read the game and evaluate players

Esooa is saying 'I'm not in my range'"

He was right

I have been reading the game and evaluating players this whole phase.

Guess who hasn't?

Trying to view the game through Alison's eyes to assess her argument about bussing

Omega - could technically be theorized as a busser
DkKoba - not bussing
Esooa - not bussing
Grogu - dunno, need to look
JJJ - could technically be theorized as a busser, but nah bruh
Made - can't bus
Michelle - can't bus
Nanook - could technically be theorized as a busser
nutella - highly unlikely bus
SPF - can't bus
tutuu - could technically be theorized as a busser

There aren't a ton of people who could theoretically bus Alison, either by vote or by voicing suspicion. Maybe the argument could be made for Esooa/DK as theoretical bussers pre-Alison wall.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:19 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one

Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?

Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway

I remember looking at post game chat of my recent wolf game

"Here is why Mac is obviously town while Esooa is wolf

Mac is trying to read the game and evaluate players

Esooa is saying 'I'm not in my range'"

He was right

I have been reading the game and evaluating players this whole phase.

Guess who hasn't?

flip me and you'll see I'm town :^)

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:19 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one

Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?

Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway

I remember looking at post game chat of my recent wolf game

"Here is why Mac is obviously town while Esooa is wolf

Mac is trying to read the game and evaluate players

Esooa is saying 'I'm not in my range'"

He was right

I have been reading the game and evaluating players this whole phase.

Guess who hasn't?

flip me and you'll see I'm town :^)

Thank you very cool!!!

If I'm mafia who are my teammates?

You haven't been solving shit

Koba voted Nutella

Now we have the locked town Nutella read

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@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are your feelings about nutella right this moment?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:26 am Oh okay so Nanook's reaction to the godfather thing makes me think Michelle is godfather and Nanook is her teammate lmfao

But we follow the green for now

doesn't seem teamy

It's one post but I remembered it specifically for a reason

Esooa is behaving like the game is solved

nutella is not

I relate more with nutella

She can still be mafia, but you see my trouble brevs

lol btw thank fuck we ended up in the setup without godfather

it doesnt rly matter cuz we have MLs to spare. if nutella is alive in lylo 1000% eliminate her.

I could just be a coward and do whatever the confirmed townies tell me to do

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 pm I love how Alison complaints about being consensus POE but then has me in all the worlds. Has no real read on me yet I’m scum with every possible team. Yikes

Grogu posts pack a heavy punch

Most annoying town feeling is knowing with near-absolute certainty that you're never getting night killed and will have to deal with the next day phase.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:36 pm Most annoying town feeling is knowing with near-absolute certainty that you're never getting night killed and will have to deal with the next day phase.

lol yeah I'm glad we have cleared prs but fml

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:27 pm Esooa is behaving like the game is solved

nutella is not

I relate more with nutella

She can still be mafia, but you see my trouble brevs

this is a logic i can follow but i need my brain to process it better when is not almost midnight

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:27 pm Esooa is behaving like the game is solved

nutella is not

I relate more with nutella

She can still be mafia, but you see my trouble brevs

this is a logic i can follow but i need my brain to process it better when is not almost midnight

It's stinky because sometimes town are overconfident, and sometimes mafia pretend to be uncertain. But they often don't and don't.

keen insights from Mafia Legend JaggedJimmyJay

this is literally esooa's meta but ok

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:49 pm this is literally esooa's meta but ok

"meta is trash"

meta is trash the way most ppl apply it.


im referring to esooa's townrange.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:36 pm i literaly dont care what u think that kind of post is always town

I keep returning to this in my head, because I make a post like Alison's literally every time I am mafia and on the chopping block.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:52 pm meta is trash the way most ppl apply it.


im referring to esooa's townrange.

If you're town, then:

you care about Esooa's town range because you know her

you don't care about nutella's town range because you don't know her

they're the same thing

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:52 pm meta is trash the way most ppl apply it.


im referring to esooa's townrange.

how is how people are applying it to my range different from how you are applying it to esooa's