The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[DaisyCloud]

it sounds like you 3 want me to claim.

I don't think I'm at that point. and I don't think I should either. we are not there yet.

[Scotty]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

[Timsup2nothin]

and unless I forgot how to read English.

scotty and gavial r not this role.

scotty could be town or mafia though

and

gavial could be town or mafia tho.

What exactly is this English that you read...specifically about Gavial? How is he confirmed not 3P to you?

Yes, Mace of Molag Ball is a bad thing.

Yes, it is in rogue hands, so 3P.

How does this connect to Gavial please?

it's part of my nite action. I can tell/see/find that information out.

and u can see how it would make sense for me to want to know if Scotty or Gavail could be this role. they are not though. they r not Molag bol's champion.

so you get a "is 3P?" check by going to...which shrine now?

iirc it's been none of the shrines you been wanting everyone to visit.

I'm trying to find some way to discount your claim so that I can just murder Gavial out of hand. That seems more reasonable is I can say "plus he could just be the 3P."

[Scotty]

We still gotta wait for marmot and Kyle to grace us with their wisdom. Until then, ima go take a jacuzzi bath because I’m #worthit

[Scotty]

Don’t let Tim pass me in post count while I’m gone

[Timsup2nothin]

Don’t let Tim pass me in post count while I’m gone

I'm out.

[DaisyCloud]

for all you guys know I can only access and/or target 1 shrine and/or I only have one artifact or all of them or none of these or all of these or I have one action and/or multi actions or no nite ones at all and only day ones.

[DaisyCloud]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

but you said there could be overlap. and in the game set up it speaks about how for some players there be delay before thry could do certain things again. so if thdy did a certain thing on nite 1 they gotta wait for nite 4 to do the thing again.

[Timsup2nothin]

Fair warning to everyone, if I decide that I believe Scotty got cursed with "you must be top poster on the day" I will probably shoot for a new high score for a 48 hour day phase, and my personal best is 489.

[DaisyCloud]

and unless I forgot how to read English.

scotty and gavial r not this role.

scotty could be town or mafia though

and

gavial could be town or mafia tho.

What exactly is this English that you read...specifically about Gavial? How is he confirmed not 3P to you?

Yes, Mace of Molag Ball is a bad thing.

Yes, it is in rogue hands, so 3P.

How does this connect to Gavial please?

it's part of my nite action. I can tell/see/find that information out.

and u can see how it would make sense for me to want to know if Scotty or Gavail could be this role. they are not though. they r not Molag bol's champion.

so you get a "is 3P?" check by going to...which shrine now?

iirc it's been none of the shrines you been wanting everyone to visit.

I'm trying to find some way to discount your claim so that I can just murder Gavial out of hand. That seems more reasonable is I can say "plus he could just be the 3P."

listen. I would like nothing more then for Gavial to be 3rd party. he is not.

only way to discount it is to scum read me. vote me and get me mislynched.

I town. I do not want to be mislynched. I k kw what my results r. unless we have a person with a role that can switch my results , then Gavial is just not 3rd party.

[DaisyCloud]

if gavial is town...

the reason I think he is alive is he scum reads rhe wrong people, votes wrong people, and/or he gives goofy reads and/or mafia think he is good mislynch bait.

if he is mafia, well lucky for us Mac died. im certain Mac would have thrown gavial under the bus by now.

[DaisyCloud]

Fair warning to everyone, if I decide that I believe Scotty got cursed with "you must be top poster on the day" I will probably shoot for a new high score for a 48 hour day phase, and my personal best is 489.

posting is fun.

if gavial is town...

the reason I think he is alive is he scum reads rhe wrong people, votes wrong people, and/or he gives goofy reads and/or mafia think he is good mislynch bait.

if he is mafia, well lucky for us Mac died. im certain Mac would have thrown gavial under the bus by now.

[DaisyCloud]

I didn't ean to quote myself

[Timsup2nothin]

and unless I forgot how to read English.

scotty and gavial r not this role.

scotty could be town or mafia though

and

gavial could be town or mafia tho.

What exactly is this English that you read...specifically about Gavial? How is he confirmed not 3P to you?

Yes, Mace of Molag Ball is a bad thing.

Yes, it is in rogue hands, so 3P.

How does this connect to Gavial please?

it's part of my nite action. I can tell/see/find that information out.

and u can see how it would make sense for me to want to know if Scotty or Gavail could be this role. they are not though. they r not Molag bol's champion.

so you get a "is 3P?" check by going to...which shrine now?

iirc it's been none of the shrines you been wanting everyone to visit.

I'm trying to find some way to discount your claim so that I can just murder Gavial out of hand. That seems more reasonable is I can say "plus he could just be the 3P."

listen. I would like nothing more then for Gavial to be 3rd party. he is not.

only way to discount it is to scum read me. vote me and get me mislynched.

I town. I do not want to be mislynched. I k kw what my results r. unless we have a person with a role that can switch my results , then Gavial is just not 3rd party.

I only want to kill him because I'm frustrated. I am fine with believing your claim. With all these shrines to assign powers to I wouldn't be surprised at a 3P cop check. I really wouldn't be surprised by much of anything.

[Scotty]

for all you guys know I can only access and/or target 1 shrine and/or I only have one artifact or all of them or none of these or all of these or I have one action and/or multi actions or no nite ones at all and only day ones.

*checks list*
Yep that just about covers the entirety of every branching possibility

[Scotty]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

but you said there could be overlap. and in the game set up it speaks about how for some players there be delay before thry could do certain things again. so if thdy did a certain thing on nite 1 they gotta wait for nite 4 to do the thing again.

Yes, overlap, of some abilities. I could see an overlap of a watcher shrine,, and a tracker shrine, but both together? That sounds like a unique role

[Scotty]

Fair warning to everyone, if I decide that I believe Scotty got cursed with "you must be top poster on the day" I will probably shoot for a new high score for a 48 hour day phase, and my personal best is 489.

I entreat everyone to partake in this endeavor.

The more you talk the more you can be read.

It’s all part of my master plan.

also I will gut you tim

[Scotty]

if gavial is town...

the reason I think he is alive is he scum reads rhe wrong people, votes wrong people, and/or he gives goofy reads and/or mafia think he is good mislynch bait.

if he is mafia, well lucky for us Mac died. im certain Mac would have thrown gavial under the bus by now.

The way mafia Mac plays, he would have thrown everyone under the bus by now, including the bus

[Timsup2nothin]

also i sorta think it's tim because he thought that there's a vig shrine which seems ??

How else do you explain kills on N1 and N4 that seem like towny but not really sharp towny shots? I guess 3P maybe takes those shots if they are townsiding?

This isn't your post that I was looking for here...but it will do. I was looking for where you guessed the wolves would be out of razor shots and wondered what you thought of Gavial's claim that Kyle visited Marmot and whether that might have been a razor shot?

[DaisyCloud]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

but you said there could be overlap. and in the game set up it speaks about how for some players there be delay before thry could do certain things again. so if thdy did a certain thing on nite 1 they gotta wait for nite 4 to do the thing again.

Yes, overlap, of some abilities. I could see an overlap of a watcher shrine,, and a tracker shrine, but both together? That sounds like a unique role

oh, hmmm, idk. seems like just by looking at the dead and what they can do, that this is not as op as it could be.

also, I wanna say something. but this might be too role revealing. idk.


I'm alive because I'm smol brain,

I think you guys want me to claim.


if it turns out that town loses because I chose to not claim then I am extending sorry.

[Timsup2nothin]

Fair warning to everyone, if I decide that I believe Scotty got cursed with "you must be top poster on the day" I will probably shoot for a new high score for a 48 hour day phase, and my personal best is 489.

I entreat everyone to partake in this endeavor.

The more you talk the more you can be read.

It’s all part of my master plan.

also I will gut you tim

If that is a real curse I will...I dunno what exactly, but it will be something extra nice for Sloonei because it would be absolutely hysterical.

[DaisyCloud]

has anyone seen me do anything, or move anywhere, or own anything, or targeted me in anyway, or followed me, or checked me? or anywhere at all?

[DaisyCloud]

I like reading scotty talk. I also like reading tim's posts.

if I have to post more to see mosr from them, then I'm down for that. ♡

[Scotty]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

but you said there could be overlap. and in the game set up it speaks about how for some players there be delay before thry could do certain things again. so if thdy did a certain thing on nite 1 they gotta wait for nite 4 to do the thing again.

Yes, overlap, of some abilities. I could see an overlap of a watcher shrine,, and a tracker shrine, but both together? That sounds like a unique role

oh, hmmm, idk. seems like just by looking at the dead and what they can do, that this is not as op as it could be.

also, I wanna say something. but this might be too role revealing. idk.


I'm alive because I'm smol brain,

I think you guys want me to claim.


if it turns out that town loses because I chose to not claim then I am extending sorry.

I’m not angling for you to claim, unless we’re hurting.

Let’s wait and see what Kyle and marmot have to say.

And maybe MR and Vulgard while we’re at it

[Timsup2nothin]

has anyone seen me do anything, or move anywhere, or own anything, or targeted me in anyway, or followed me, or checked me? or anywhere at all?

I have no abilities of any of those kinds. Other than buying writs to assassinate people approximately one time the only usefulness of my ability is that I can tell pretty accurately how many people went to the same shrine I did. So I guess if we had done mass claims every day maybe I catch too many people claiming the shrine I went to and know someone lied. Unfortunately I am very sure that doing mass claims every day would have been a genuinely terrible idea.

[Timsup2nothin]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

but you said there could be overlap. and in the game set up it speaks about how for some players there be delay before thry could do certain things again. so if thdy did a certain thing on nite 1 they gotta wait for nite 4 to do the thing again.

Yes, overlap, of some abilities. I could see an overlap of a watcher shrine,, and a tracker shrine, but both together? That sounds like a unique role

oh, hmmm, idk. seems like just by looking at the dead and what they can do, that this is not as op as it could be.

also, I wanna say something. but this might be too role revealing. idk.


I'm alive because I'm smol brain,

I think you guys want me to claim.


if it turns out that town loses because I chose to not claim then I am extending sorry.

I’m not angling for you to claim, unless we’re hurting.

Let’s wait and see what Kyle and marmot have to say.

And maybe MR and Vulgard while we’re at it

I'm actually about half a step from coin toss choosing Radishes v Vulgard, voting, and taking the day off.

Or 500 posting just to test your mettle.

[TonyStarkPrime]

also i sorta think it's tim because he thought that there's a vig shrine which seems ??

Nah I think Tim is either wolf or town.
And I believe that he killed mac.

Which is some huge 4D chess playing shit if he’s bad.

If he’s 3P there’s no fucking way mafia didn’t already try and shoot him.

And if they didn’t lolololol

if he's 3p yes that thing but the last two flips are indicative that maybe they did

if gav flips wolf then I think they know but can't kill him and that's why he's so confident that tim is 3p

[TonyStarkPrime]

reasonably I can say that the wolves probably are out of razor shots considering five nights have gone by and they lost one on the second wolf flip anyways and also I haven't really been counting but I think /i/ have the last artifact so no one else has it

I ignored this when I read it, but now I’m back.

U kidding right?

no i am the sun

[TonyStarkPrime]

also i sorta think it's tim because he thought that there's a vig shrine which seems ??

How else do you explain kills on N1 and N4 that seem like towny but not really sharp towny shots? I guess 3P maybe takes those shots if they are townsiding?

This isn't your post that I was looking for here...but it will do. I was looking for where you guessed the wolves would be out of razor shots and wondered what you thought of Gavial's claim that Kyle visited Marmot and whether that might have been a razor shot?

I'd think 3p who doesn't want to overlap because idk maybe he needs unique kills or something

[TonyStarkPrime]

and like more broadly 3p who's trying to hit mafia and just is bad at it

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think my day posting record is probably like 300 but I could go for the maximum. There's a lot of work to be done.

[Scotty]

and like more broadly 3p who's trying to hit mafia and just is bad at it

This does seem more and more likely

Especially if Tim is town

[Scotty]

I think my day posting record is probably like 300 but I could go for the maximum. There's a lot of work to be done.

Would you say you are Lawful Evil or chaotic evil?

[Scotty]

Gavial is voting me, whatever can I do?

He’s the Scrappy Doo to my Scooby

[Gavial]

Gavial is voting me, whatever can I do?

He’s the Scrappy Doo to my Scooby

OMGUS and scum claim!

[Scotty]

Gavial is voting me, whatever can I do?

He’s the Scrappy Doo to my Scooby

OMGUS and scum claim!

[Long Con]

Nothing LC has done this phase makes me feel like he’s actually putting in town effort by the by.

My vote remains

Weak and antitown action. Why is this your new obsession? Vote someone bad instead.

in before tim or scotty or Tony say thus means daisy is Molag's champion

This means

Spoiler: show

LC is probably the droids we are looking for

Please stop tinfoiling and imagining it's good logic.

[Scotty]

Nothing LC has done this phase makes me feel like he’s actually putting in town effort by the by.

My vote remains

Weak and antitown action. Why is this your new obsession? Vote someone bad instead.

in before tim or scotty or Tony say thus means daisy is Molag's champion

This means

Spoiler: show

LC is probably the droids we are looking for

Please stop tinfoiling and imagining it's good logic.

It would make sense to me based on what has been talked about so far this phase tho.

Ok let’s say maybe you aren’t bad...maybe you really are the 3P.
that’s ok. It is what it is. You can’t change who you are. You should be free to be who you want to be.

You touch base with just enough people to lay blame when you need to. Maybe you killed nook and nacho. Maybe we can work together LC

[Scotty]

Nothing LC has done this phase makes me feel like he’s actually putting in town effort by the by.

My vote remains

Weak and antitown action. Why is this your new obsession? Vote someone bad instead.

in before tim or scotty or Tony say thus means daisy is Molag's champion

This means

Spoiler: show

LC is probably the droids we are looking for

Please stop tinfoiling and imagining it's good logic.

Your defense to me referring to your blasé effort is pretty shit tho

[Long Con]

Nothing LC has done this phase makes me feel like he’s actually putting in town effort by the by.

My vote remains

Weak and antitown action. Why is this your new obsession? Vote someone bad instead.

in before tim or scotty or Tony say thus means daisy is Molag's champion

This means

Spoiler: show

LC is probably the droids we are looking for

Please stop tinfoiling and imagining it's good logic.

Your defense to me referring to your blasé effort is pretty shit tho

Tinfoil away, criticize the way I play all the way to your loss if you like. Wouldn't be the first time that my suspicions get completely ignored and they were right.

[Scotty]

Nothing LC has done this phase makes me feel like he’s actually putting in town effort by the by.

My vote remains

Weak and antitown action. Why is this your new obsession? Vote someone bad instead.

in before tim or scotty or Tony say thus means daisy is Molag's champion

This means

Spoiler: show

LC is probably the droids we are looking for

Please stop tinfoiling and imagining it's good logic.

Your defense to me referring to your blasé effort is pretty shit tho

Tinfoil away, criticize the way I play all the way to your loss if you like. Wouldn't be the first time that my suspicions get completely ignored and they were right.

In a world where you are indie, Vulgard could very well be a hit.

*poke*

[Long Con]

Nothing LC has done this phase makes me feel like he’s actually putting in town effort by the by.

My vote remains

Weak and antitown action. Why is this your new obsession? Vote someone bad instead.

in before tim or scotty or Tony say thus means daisy is Molag's champion

This means

Spoiler: show

LC is probably the droids we are looking for

Please stop tinfoiling and imagining it's good logic.

Your defense to me referring to your blasé effort is pretty shit tho

Tinfoil away, criticize the way I play all the way to your loss if you like. Wouldn't be the first time that my suspicions get completely ignored and they were right.

In a world where you are indie, Vulgard could very well be a hit.

*poke*

No, no, no, I am not indie, I am town. Hard claim.

[Gavial]

So if Gavial is bad, which he is making it VERY difficult not to think otherwise, that means he is probably lying about the tracking/watching, because I do not believe the designer of this game would give 2 mafia very similar shrine abilities in LM and gavial.

Unless there is an actual town with watcher/tracker duo that could counterclaim (which I’m not certain is a good idea yet) I believe gavial’s abilities.

The pattern seems to be everyone has overlap of shrines; however, shrines with 1-2 powerful unique abilities. A player with tracker and watcher? Pretty powerful.

Ok then when @Kylemii confirms they visited Marmot you will know for a fact I have Watcher.
Probably could have proved my Track too if Vulgard didn’t decide to jail keep me.

[Gavial]

What abilities do you have Scotty boy?

[Scotty]

What abilities do you have Scotty boy?

Some. Waiting for a good time to share my findings with the board

[Gavial]

What abilities do you have Scotty boy?

Some. Waiting for a good time to share my findings with the board

[Scotty]

Oh, by the way. There's a mechanical problem.
If I survive today, I don't know what to do. My options are all negative utility in this gamestate like the jailkeep on Gavial.

What to do

[Scotty]

What abilities do you have Scotty boy?

Some. Waiting for a good time to share my findings with the board

No, Scrappy. Bad! Go bug Velma

[Gavial]

Oh, by the way. There's a mechanical problem.
If I survive today, I don't know what to do. My options are all negative utility in this gamestate like the jailkeep on Gavial.

What to do

Give up and hard claim your alignment!

[Gavial]

But no honestly Scotty refusing to give anything about his role this late in the game is sus.