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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:34 pm
by Long Con
Fuck, I'm sorry Tony.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:37 pm
by fingersplints
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:33 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm Did someone mention that this was the second day al had a lot of votes end of day? I can’t remember how many he had day 1
there's another thread in the "The Job" subforum where the final vote counts get logged
Thank you.

I just looked. I thought I was on to something about a save, but none of the voters match up. So scratch this post and the last one.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:38 pm
by Hally
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:22 pm I still think Ted is town but how come everyone else thinks so now too
michelle green peeked him

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:40 pm
by Hally
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 pm That is a disappointing result. I really thought I was on to something there.
To be fair, Tony didn't do himself many favors.
tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:41 pm
by Esooa
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:38 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:22 pm I still think Ted is town but how come everyone else thinks so now too
michelle green peeked him
how believable is it

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:41 pm
by Hally
you don’t kill a strong player like tony who is actually contributing and could possibly clear himself over someone who is literally doing nothing

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:41 pm
by Esooa
should I doctor Michelle tonight

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
by Hally
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
by Hally
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
Agreed.
why?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:43 pm
by Hally
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:41 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:38 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:22 pm I still think Ted is town but how come everyone else thinks so now too
michelle green peeked him
how believable is it
i highly doubt she’s lying

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:43 pm
by Hally
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:41 pm should I doctor Michelle tonight
won’t that roleblock her too?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm
by fingersplints
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:40 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 pm That is a disappointing result. I really thought I was on to something there.
To be fair, Tony didn't do himself many favors.
tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20
I’ve never played with Tony before, so I had no comparison.
Is there anyone who you think should have “known better” or any reason to think someone who voted him wasn’t genuine in their suspicion?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm
by Strawhenge
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
Agreed.
why?
I ISO'd Long Con here if you wanna look at that.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm
by Esooa
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:43 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:41 pm should I doctor Michelle tonight
won’t that roleblock her too?
no

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm
by Esooa
I have it that I can one shot not roleblock the person I target

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:46 pm
by Hally
fingersplints wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:40 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 pm That is a disappointing result. I really thought I was on to something there.
To be fair, Tony didn't do himself many favors.
tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20
I’ve never played with Tony before, so I had no comparison.
Is there anyone who you think should have “known better” or any reason to think someone who voted him wasn’t genuine in their suspicion?
i dunno. it’s something to investigate though

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:47 pm
by Alison
I'm detached from the game and probably not catching up because I'm multitabling like five games and my finals week just started. I'm probably dying tonight but in case I don't can someone cliffsnotes mech stuff

I know Michelle green checked ted, and I see TSP flipped green. By default I'm going to vote park Al unless someone has green checked there too.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:47 pm
by Hally
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm I have it that I can one shot not roleblock the person I target
ok then do it i guess assuming @MichaelScott can get other peeks

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:47 pm
by Hally
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:47 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:45 pm I have it that I can one shot not roleblock the person I target
ok then do it i guess assuming @MichaelScott can get other peeks
err @Michelle lol

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm
by Hally
i hope this is what we need to jolt us out of our complacency. let’s not lose our minds or anything though

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:54 pm
by KZA
Is JPIC mafia

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:55 pm
by Alison
I don't see why I shouldn't just assume Al sama is lock scum given that TSP and ted are cleared and I very much doubt zero wolves in those three.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:55 pm
by Alison
I am probably going to reassess Odd given these results though.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:56 pm
by Hally
odd did not care at all who was lunched today

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:59 pm
by Alison
To be perfectly honest I didn't either.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:00 pm
by Hally
if i had the motivation i would compile a list of people who had no real reason to suspect ted or tony and just we t along with the consensus on them for no reason

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:01 pm
by Esooa
I scum read tsp and town read Ted

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:01 pm
by Oddmerta
I was just helping out Alison

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:01 pm
by Hally
Alison wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:59 pm To be perfectly honest I didn't either.
yes but you did work to create the consensus that led to those wagons. you did care at some point. odd has not cared about anything at any point

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:02 pm
by Alison
I will reassess Odd if I am alive D3.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:03 pm
by Oddmerta
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:01 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:59 pm To be perfectly honest I didn't either.
yes but you did work to create the consensus that led to those wagons. you did care at some point. odd has not cared about anything at any point
I care about stuff

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:05 pm
by Hally
Oddmerta wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:03 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:01 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:59 pm To be perfectly honest I didn't either.
yes but you did work to create the consensus that led to those wagons. you did care at some point. odd has not cared about anything at any point
I care about stuff
no you don’t

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:05 pm
by KZA
Odd is definitely coasting

I am too but will try to stop that

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:06 pm
by Hally
the list of people i trust in this game is shorter than the list of people i don’t

that’s bad

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:07 pm
by KZA
Mafia I dare you to have a doc and try to protect Al Sama

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:09 pm
by Hally
the only people i trust right now are

alison
ted
michelle
spf

next group in is like

sloonei
boknows
straw
esooa
falcon (?)

after that i literally don’t know

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm
by Hally
why is falcon a villager again?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
by staypositivefriend
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:22 pm
by staypositivefriend
i don't believe there is a need to panic, but yes, there is a need to critically re-evaluate the townreads that we have to make sure that we're still headed in the right direction. a world where michelle, TSP, and tedextr are all villagers implies a world where the solve is not nearly as easy as it has been proposed

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm
by Hally
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got
why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm
by Hally
i guess i could see lc trying to parlay his defense of ted into some town cred

if he’s on team marmot and knows ted isn’t, he might conclude ted is a villager and try to push for a lunch on tony thinking he’s on the other team

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm
by staypositivefriend
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got
why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything
well, i can see long con wanting to strongarm the chop onto someone on his opposing team as opposed to wanting the chop to fall on someone that he believed was a villager. if long con is a wolf with marmot then he probably thought that ted was town, since ted was clearly unaligned with TSP

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:27 pm
by Hally
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got
why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything
well, i can see long con wanting to strongarm the chop onto someone on his opposing team as opposed to wanting the chop to fall on someone that he believed was a villager. if long con is a wolf with marmot then he probably thought that ted was town, since ted was clearly unaligned with TSP
yeah, sounds as reasonable as anything i guess

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:28 pm
by Hally
the wolves should just shoot each other tonight imo

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:30 pm
by Hally
if one of the wolf teams claims i’ll offer you immunity. we can bond together and kill the other team. stop hiding in the shadows and live openly

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:35 pm
by Hally
when jpic was a wolf in radiohead he basically just lolcatted with words. here he is not lolcatting with words. is that a good thing? or is the bar too low?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:36 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm i hope this is what we need to jolt us out of our complacency. let’s not lose our minds or anything though
Yeah a whole 7000 posts of complacency lol

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
by Alison
We have a POE and a backup POE if the main POE is wrong. Clean out the main POE and then clean out the backup POE, adjusting as you go based on new info. One townie exe and one green check is not a reason to table flip.

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
by Long Con
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got
why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything
well, i can see long con wanting to strongarm the chop onto someone on his opposing team as opposed to wanting the chop to fall on someone that he believed was a villager. if long con is a wolf with marmot then he probably thought that ted was town, since ted was clearly unaligned with TSP
They're both town. If I were on a bad team, I would not know which one is town and which one is Gerhardt.

I pushed for ted being town before Michelle outed the check. I wouldn't get any cred for it if ted wasn't yeeted because no one would know I was right. Given my tenuous position, it would be unwise for wolf-me to work to eliminate one of the strongest contenders to be executed over me.

Also: how can we be sure Michelle is legit, and not just on a team with ted?

Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:36 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm i hope this is what we need to jolt us out of our complacency. let’s not lose our minds or anything though
Yeah a whole 7000 posts of complacency lol
who are the wolves nook?