The Syndicate

Golden, I'm having flashbacks to Economics with those meme posts re: S~V~S. I seriously kept thinking you were G-Man.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Golden, I'm having flashbacks to Economics with those meme posts re: S~V~S. I seriously kept thinking you were G-Man.

Turnip Head wrote:A sprityo lynch feels like the easiest thing we could possibly do, but hey look how the Floyd lynch turned out. I'm not convinced this will be a great result for us and will only serve to rid the thread of his idiosyncratic weirdness. I feel like we're afraid to make the wrong choice so we're just going with whatever is easiest.

Voting for Glorfy. If he's civ I want him to stop telling me that he's town and SHOW me that he's town.

I swear, I don't know what you expect of me DH. I AM trying and will continue to. I still don't get a bad feeling about you at all but I am frustrated by your apparently inability to even consider the possibility that I am being truthful. As I said earlier, I feel increasingly uneasy about Sprityo and his behaviour so on this occasion, I'll support this lynch. I hope I'm right - you seem like a really nice guy Sprityo and if I'm wrong, I'm genuinely sorry.

Yeah fuck you DH

Wait.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

This is my point; I am being used as a distraction to draw attention away from the real baddies. And I can think of nothing more tedious that having to defend myself against the same tepid *meh* accusations.

I would like to lynch Spityo or Glorfindel or even Golden. But every time people start diuscussion about others, I come back up. So if you want to lynch a real baddie,do it. But if you choose to lynch me, you will be able to move past it and get the game back on track. Either way, yay civs.

And maybe that is my point too my friend - you see me as bad when I simply am not. I have no idea how I can convince you otherwise - convince you of the truth. The fact that you have self-voted concerns me greatly too.. As I've made reference previously, I think self-voting as Town is irresponsible unless there is some 'greater good' that that may be achieved as a result and I take your point about feeling like a distraction. I may be making a heinous mistake here but I'm not voting for you today. I'd like to look again at your performance this game from more of a holistic perspective - I just want to be certain about that decision (well, more certain).

Lots of empty words backed with no town-minded effort to find mafia.

Thank you MP for that utterly irrelevant assessment of my post. I'd respectfully suggest to you that your limited time and energy would have been better spent addressing the questions that I put to you last night. I think that would be a far more constructive use of your time in assisting our cause.

Glorfindel wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

This is my point; I am being used as a distraction to draw attention away from the real baddies. And I can think of nothing more tedious that having to defend myself against the same tepid *meh* accusations.

I would like to lynch Spityo or Glorfindel or even Golden. But every time people start diuscussion about others, I come back up. So if you want to lynch a real baddie,do it. But if you choose to lynch me, you will be able to move past it and get the game back on track. Either way, yay civs.

And maybe that is my point too my friend - you see me as bad when I simply am not. I have no idea how I can convince you otherwise - convince you of the truth. The fact that you have self-voted concerns me greatly too.. As I've made reference previously, I think self-voting as Town is irresponsible unless there is some 'greater good' that that may be achieved as a result and I take your point about feeling like a distraction. I may be making a heinous mistake here but I'm not voting for you today. I'd like to look again at your performance this game from more of a holistic perspective - I just want to be certain about that decision (well, more certain).

Lots of empty words backed with no town-minded effort to find mafia.

Thank you MP for that utterly irrelevant assessment of my post. I'd respectfully suggest to you that your limited time and energy would have been better spent addressing the questions that I put to you last night. I think that would be a far more constructive use of your time in assisting our cause.

Why is it irrelevant?

I went ahead and voted Sprit. since SVS is at least offering some defense, and Sprit isn't even bothering that.

Have we suffered a single mislynch?

Yo who's batarangs do I gotta tickle to get a fucking location PM around here

I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Who shot up the A.S.S.?

Poll ended at Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:49 pm

Bass_the_Clever
0
No votes

Bubbles
0
No votes

Bullzeye
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

ekeknat
0
No votes

Enrique
0
No votes

Equivocate
1
MovingPictures07 (6) 5%

Golden
1
Typhoony (10) 5%

Glorfindel
1
Turnip Head (17) 5%

juliets
0
No votes

Lorab
0
No votes

MacDougall
0
No votes

Matt
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

sprityo
9
Bullzeye (11), LoRab (13), juliets (14), Dom (15), MacDougall (16), Glorfindel (18), Golden (19), DFaraday (20), Sorsha (21) 43%

S~V~S
2
DharmaHelper (8), S~V~S (12) 10%

TheFloyd73
0
No votes

Turnip Head
1
Matt (7) 5%

Typhoony
0
No votes

Gotham City Animal Control (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
6
Epignosis (1), sig (2), Metalmarsh89 (3), Quin (4), a2thezebra (5), Scotty (9)

Sorsha wrote:I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Point me to that post if you don't mind

*sigh*

I don't understand sprit's decision to give up. Was it meta games? It's kind of disappointing. Just because the Joker is dead and you can win dead or alive... the town still has to actually WIN.

This is something I like about alive to win. You have to fight for it.

At least he wasn't a powered role.

I'm sorry sprit. :/

Turnip Head wrote:A sprityo lynch feels like the easiest thing we could possibly do, but hey look how the Floyd lynch turned out. I'm not convinced this will be a great result for us and will only serve to rid the thread of his idiosyncratic weirdness. I feel like we're afraid to make the wrong choice so we're just going with whatever is easiest.

Voting for Glorfy. If he's civ I want him to stop telling me that he's town and SHOW me that he's town.

I agree with the underlined sentiment entirely.

Golden wrote:*sigh*

I don't understand sprit's decision to give up. Was it meta games? It's kind of disappointing. Just because the Joker is dead and you can win dead or alive... the town still has to actually WIN.

This is something I like about alive to win. You have to fight for it.

He didn't give up, he just wasn't trying very hard. There were signs that this is what he would flip, but not many people wanted to see it.

I'm sure there are other players who try harder because they don't have to be alive to win, so that argument doesn't make sense to me personally.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:*sigh*

I don't understand sprit's decision to give up. Was it meta games? It's kind of disappointing. Just because the Joker is dead and you can win dead or alive... the town still has to actually WIN.

This is something I like about alive to win. You have to fight for it.

He didn't give up, he just wasn't trying very hard. There were signs that this is what he would flip, but not many people wanted to see it.

I'm sure there are other players who try harder because they don't have to be alive to win, so that argument doesn't make sense to me personally.

I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm just annoyed that no-one (including me) came up with this answer. The only one I heard was Mr Freeze.

Going to the Docks. I'll find out whats there in two weeks,

If I'd realised there was another answer that wasn't Mr Freeze, I would have been proclaiming it louder.

Golden, I have a hard time believing you didn't see this as an option.

I considered it but thought I was right. I wasn't.

Golden wrote:If I'd realised there was another answer that wasn't Mr Freeze, I would have been proclaiming it louder.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:To be clear I think sprityo is either a cop who's already nabbed his inmate or an inmate who's already won the game and now he's just chillin.

How would a cop know if they have nabbed their inmate? Unless they are cop number one, I guess.

Yeah I was thinking Joker...

You don't say, Goldie

Bullsuit, indeed.

Dang blud got em

Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

Glorfindel wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:A sprityo lynch feels like the easiest thing we could possibly do, but hey look how the Floyd lynch turned out. I'm not convinced this will be a great result for us and will only serve to rid the thread of his idiosyncratic weirdness. I feel like we're afraid to make the wrong choice so we're just going with whatever is easiest.

Voting for Glorfy. If he's civ I want him to stop telling me that he's town and SHOW me that he's town.

I swear, I don't know what you expect of me DH. I AM trying and will continue to. I still don't get a bad feeling about you at all but I am frustrated by your apparently inability to even consider the possibility that I am being truthful. As I said earlier, I feel increasingly uneasy about Sprityo and his behaviour so on this occasion, I'll support this lynch. I hope I'm right - you seem like a really nice guy Sprityo and if I'm wrong, I'm genuinely sorry.

Because "the possibility that I am being truthful" isn't very convincing. A mafioso who constantly calls himself town is one of the easiest lies, so when you keep saying it over and over again, it doesn't make me want to believe you.

Per the underlined, I went back to look for this. Working backwards:

Glorfindel wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Good Luck with that

You, Golden & Glorfindel, I presume?

Not necessarily, my friend. Firstly, let me say that I'm unsure what you were asking of me earlier. You asked for why I would vote for you without stating any of Golden's case? I've already done that less than a couple of pages ago - you're welcome to go back and read it for yourself. I've slept on this vote overnight and I'm now considering if there might be better options this Day phase. As I've said earlier, I am feeling bad vibes over the Sprityo thing right now so my vote for you is by no means locked in at this point.

Glorfindel wrote:As for your 'other suspicions' I share them too. While I didn't have a problem with Sprityo earlier, I am now concerned at his behaviour this Day phase and would consider him as an option for my vote. As far as your point three goes, you should forgive me for what I see as a significant number of more experienced players getting a 'free ride'. Take Matt for example. He made a statement towards the end of the last Day phase referencing his suspicions on TH and MP. I asked for him to elaborate and I can't recall a single 'on topic' post from him since. Meanwhile, someone makes a statement to the effect that my playstyle is reminiscent of my Star Wars performance (without any obvious level of analysis to justify the claim) and people who weren't even in Star Wars accept that.

I feel like you did not go out of your way to elaborate on this read at all, even though you did think to include "As I said earlier" every time you name checked your sprityo suspicion. This makes me think it wasn't a genuine read, that you were just parroting the thread. Whatever you found "concerning" about sprityo's behavior you did not specify. I know sprit was obviously acting strange but I can't help but feel a town Glorfindel would have thought to ask why is he acting strange instead of just trying to pass it off as concerning. I don't see you actually trying to get to the bottom of this suspicion, and I find that concerning.

Let's lynch Glorfindel tomorrow.

Golden wrote:Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

Clearly.

Golden wrote:I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

You keep saying that he gave up. I didn't interpret it that way at all. And to say so after he's dead... it feels like you're blaming the victim.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Point me to that post if you don't mind

Wasn't he? I thought it was him and svs?

RIP sprityo

Golden wrote:Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

I don't understand either, Golden, but you literally acknowledged it as a possibility, then in post-lynch claimed you wouldn't have voted had you known it was a possibility.

You are back pedalling so hard.

Golden wrote:If I'd realised there was another answer that wasn't Mr Freeze, I would have been proclaiming it louder.

And so what if he was Mr. Freeze? There's more anti-town roles than town roles for Freeze to block, if he's already won he can be a great asset to the town.

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Point me to that post if you don't mind

Wasn't he? I thought it was him and svs?

RIP sprityo

I believe it was SVS and LoRab.

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

I don't understand either, Golden, but you literally acknowledged it as a possibility, then in post-lynch claimed you wouldn't have voted had you known it was a possibility.

You are back pedalling so hard.

Well whatever. Do you think I have a baddie reason for coming out right after the lynch and saying what I said?

Reminds me of SVS going after me in recruitment for admitting to having tried to bait an epi kill.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:If I'd realised there was another answer that wasn't Mr Freeze, I would have been proclaiming it louder.

And so what if he was Mr. Freeze? There's more anti-town roles than town roles for Freeze to block, if he's already won he can be a great asset to the town.

If you feel so passionate about neither of the options for sprit being worth lynching, why didn't YOU fight hard for him to not be lynched?

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

I don't understand either, Golden, but you literally acknowledged it as a possibility, then in post-lynch claimed you wouldn't have voted had you known it was a possibility.

You are back pedalling so hard.

Well whatever. Do you think I have a baddie reason for coming out right after the lynch and saying what I said?

Reminds me of SVS going after me in recruitment for admitting to having tried to bait an epi kill.

Well yeah you could be trying to wash your hands of this mislynch

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

I don't understand either, Golden, but you literally acknowledged it as a possibility, then in post-lynch claimed you wouldn't have voted had you known it was a possibility.

You are back pedalling so hard.

Well whatever. Do you think I have a baddie reason for coming out right after the lynch and saying what I said?

Reminds me of SVS going after me in recruitment for admitting to having tried to bait an epi kill.

Well yeah you could be trying to wash your hands of this mislynch

Because it would otherwise be on me? I hardly think so. No-one would be perceiving me as responsible for it.

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:If I'd realised there was another answer that wasn't Mr Freeze, I would have been proclaiming it louder.

And so what if he was Mr. Freeze? There's more anti-town roles than town roles for Freeze to block, if he's already won he can be a great asset to the town.

If you feel so passionate about neither of the options for sprit being worth lynching, why didn't YOU fight hard for him to not be lynched?

Are you kidding me? That's exactly what I've been doing, I just pointed you to a post where I did exactly that

And am I blaming the victim?

Yes.

And I think thats perfectly fair.

I am blaming myself too, for not thinking about it harder.

I don't like logically preventable civilian deaths.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:If I'd realised there was another answer that wasn't Mr Freeze, I would have been proclaiming it louder.

And so what if he was Mr. Freeze? There's more anti-town roles than town roles for Freeze to block, if he's already won he can be a great asset to the town.

If you feel so passionate about neither of the options for sprit being worth lynching, why didn't YOU fight hard for him to not be lynched?

Are you kidding me? That's exactly what I've been doing, I just pointed you to a post where I did exactly that

If I had believed it, you would have seen fucking 50 memes from me saying it. I wouldn't have let it go.

Nice NO U golden.


I'll think on this.

Dom wrote:Nice NO U golden.


I'll think on this.

I don't think TH is bad in the slightest. You won't get me no u'ing him.

I'm asking TH to think about his own behaviour before he judges me for mine.

On the other hand, Dom, you were VERY eager to jump on me.

What are you trying to say Golden? That I didn't do enough? After I basically gave myself an ulcer defending SVS the other day, and you replied with "I can't understand why TH is defending her so strongly?"

I made the points in sprityo's defense that he wasn't making himself. I tried to get people off of him and onto other suspects. It's weird that you're acting like I should have done more when YOU'RE the one who wouldn't consider the points I was making.

Turnip Head wrote:What are you trying to say Golden? That I didn't do enough? After I basically gave myself an ulcer defending SVS the other day, and you replied with "I can't understand why TH is defending her so strongly?"

I made the points in sprityo's defense that he wasn't making himself. I tried to get people off of him and onto other suspects. It's weird that you're acting like I should have done more when YOU'RE the one who wouldn't consider the points I was making.

I'm not blaming you, TH. In case I haven't made it abundantly clear, I'm pissed at ME. I just don't understand why you are criticising me for having entirely forgotten about the cop 1 idea when its not exactly like anyone was shouting it from the rooftop.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Nice NO U golden.


I'll think on this.

I don't think TH is bad in the slightest. You won't get me no u'ing him.

I'm asking TH to think about his own behaviour before he judges me for mine.

On the other hand, Dom, you were VERY eager to jump on me.

I made a point, Golden. I said I'm going to think on it. I pressed someone who I think made an inconsistency in their narrative.

I think you no u'd me when you were quick to compare me to SVS in Recruitment, where if memory serves me right, she was bad.

You made an inconsistency. I think that's worth discussing.

Did anyone ever mention it other than that one exchange?

linki @dom - oh in that case, no you misconstrued. SVS genuinely thought I was bad in recruitment (despite being bad herself). I didn't mean to imply that, just that the idea I'm bad for my lynch reaction is wrong. You won't get a frank reaction from me to a lynch like that when I'm bad.

Golden wrote:You won't get a frank reaction from me to a lynch like that when I'm bad.

That's a pretty bold statement. What does your lynch reaction look like when you're bad?

Never a dull moment in this game.

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Point me to that post if you don't mind

Wasn't he? I thought it was him and svs?

RIP sprityo

As someone also answered, it was SVS and me.

Which is a factor that gives me pause about SVS. i know I'm not bad, but there is circumstantial evidence that SVS very well could be.

Pretty fishy voting reason all things considered Sorsha.