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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:36 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm i hope this is what we need to jolt us out of our complacency. let’s not lose our minds or anything though
Yeah a whole 7000 posts of complacency lol
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got
why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything
well, i can see long con wanting to strongarm the chop onto someone on his opposing team as opposed to wanting the chop to fall on someone that he believed was a villager. if long con is a wolf with marmot then he probably thought that ted was town, since ted was clearly unaligned with TSP
They're both town. If I were on a bad team, I would not know which one is town and which one is Gerhardt.

I pushed for ted being town before Michelle outed the check. I wouldn't get any cred for it if ted wasn't yeeted because no one would know I was right. Given my tenuous position, it would be unwise for wolf-me to work to eliminate one of the strongest contenders to be executed over me.

Also: how can we be sure Michelle is legit, and not just on a team with ted?
if they’re on a team together they will be outed in due time
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:40 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:36 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm i hope this is what we need to jolt us out of our complacency. let’s not lose our minds or anything though
Yeah a whole 7000 posts of complacency lol
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:40 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?
why?
long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got
why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything
well, i can see long con wanting to strongarm the chop onto someone on his opposing team as opposed to wanting the chop to fall on someone that he believed was a villager. if long con is a wolf with marmot then he probably thought that ted was town, since ted was clearly unaligned with TSP
They're both town. If I were on a bad team, I would not know which one is town and which one is Gerhardt.

I pushed for ted being town before Michelle outed the check. I wouldn't get any cred for it if ted wasn't yeeted because no one would know I was right. Given my tenuous position, it would be unwise for wolf-me to work to eliminate one of the strongest contenders to be executed over me.

Also: how can we be sure Michelle is legit, and not just on a team with ted?
if they’re on a team together they will be outed in due time
I guess we could count on the *other* mafia team to take care of that, otherwise they are currently set up for the long haul as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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michelle is effectively claiming to be a cop. if she lives more than a night or two she will be outed. i’m pretty sure she’s a villager anyway though. i thought that before she even claimed
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:40 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:36 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm i hope this is what we need to jolt us out of our complacency. let’s not lose our minds or anything though
Yeah a whole 7000 posts of complacency lol
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
meta-ish reasons
how confident?
I didn't like falcon's EOD 2. I didn't like his blatantly lazy jump on the ted vote, or his subsequent vote, as I recall.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
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how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:42 pm michelle is effectively claiming to be a cop. if she lives more than a night or two she will be outed. i’m pretty sure she’s a villager anyway though. i thought that before she even claimed
If they kill Michelle, they either confirm ted, or out him.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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or actually, this is multiball so fake claiming cop when the other team will just take you out is crazy

and if they take out michelle and she flips wolf she kills ted too

i’m pretty surreal they are ~never wolves
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
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how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
slight mind meld :hugs:
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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My town reads so far have been perfect I believe

Had Jay and Joseph, had tutu/hally, had Michelle (assuming she's town which is a fair assumption for now at least)

I did get tsp wrong but I can't read tsp so it doesn't count
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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:44 pm or actually, this is multiball so fake claiming cop when the other team will just take you out is crazy

and if they take out michelle and she flips wolf she kills ted too

i’m pretty surreal they are ~never wolves
It would be surreal if they were wolves, I agree.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
meta-ish reasons
how confident?
I didn't like falcon's EOD 2. I didn't like his blatantly lazy jump on the ted vote, or his subsequent vote, as I recall.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:44 pm My town reads so far have been perfect I believe

Had Jay and Joseph, had tutu/hally, had Michelle (assuming she's town which is a fair assumption for now at least)

I did get tsp wrong but I can't read tsp so it doesn't count
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
meta-ish reasons
how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
what are the meta-ish reasons he’s a villager?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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I just realized that I hard inted this game by forgetting to submit night actions again. Mea maxima culpa. Oh well.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Alison wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:46 pm I just realized that I hard inted this game by forgetting to submit night actions again. Mea maxima culpa. Oh well.
I reminded you. :noble:
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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My deepest apologies everyone. I'm really sorry, I'm juggling five things and didn't realize EOD waa today.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Yeah it was my bad. I take full responsibility for this mistake.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Alison wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:47 pm My deepest apologies everyone. I'm really sorry, I'm juggling five things and didn't realize EOD waa today.
I missed at least twice in the GoC, and I didn't have five things. :hug:
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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michelle has been an obvious villager even without her claim imo and i think the way she went about breadcrumbimg/softing/claiming is never fake
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Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:45 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:44 pm My town reads so far have been perfect I believe

Had Jay and Joseph, had tutu/hally, had Michelle (assuming she's town which is a fair assumption for now at least)

I did get tsp wrong but I can't read tsp so it doesn't count
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Alison wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:47 pm My deepest apologies everyone. I'm really sorry, I'm juggling five things and didn't realize EOD waa today.
no worries, it’s easy to forget
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:45 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
meta-ish reasons
how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
what are the meta-ish reasons he’s a villager?
he self resolves typically

I might read his wolf performance from Bee Mafia and see if I can learn anything
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:48 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:45 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
meta-ish reasons
how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
what are the meta-ish reasons he’s a villager?
he self resolves typically

I might read his wolf performance from Bee Mafia and see if I can learn anything
self resolves how?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:50 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:48 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:45 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:19 pm why is falcon a villager again?
meta-ish reasons
how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
what are the meta-ish reasons he’s a villager?
he self resolves typically

I might read his wolf performance from Bee Mafia and see if I can learn anything
self resolves how?
he just has an obvious village game that he projected early on

he likes to ask lots of questions and poke anything that pings him, typically he has a jokey tone

last time I towned against him was months ago but he was noticeably more aggressive/serious in tone
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:53 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:50 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:48 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:45 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:41 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm

meta-ish reasons
how confident?
not very

his EoDs are suspect
what are the meta-ish reasons he’s a villager?
he self resolves typically

I might read his wolf performance from Bee Mafia and see if I can learn anything
self resolves how?
he just has an obvious village game that he projected early on

he likes to ask lots of questions and poke anything that pings him, typically he has a jokey tone

last time I towned against him was months ago but he was noticeably more aggressive/serious in tone
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why is fingersplints a suspect? i don’t understand that. her posts seem completely fine to me
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:00 pm why is fingersplints a suspect? i don’t understand that. her posts seem completely fine to me
I felt okay about her when I was catching up this morning, previously had her as pretty null
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:00 pm why is fingersplints a suspect? i don’t understand that. her posts seem completely fine to me
Just glancing at the thread after getting in from work. Have not read anything.

Fingersplints is in the “Not a townread” mold rather than the “scum read” mold.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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names that i would like to get a more confident read on today:

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Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:53 pm Like... don't *believe* me. Go into Sloonei's ISO and search for 'TSP' and decide for yourselves. I went in just to see what Sloonei's position on TSP has been, and what I found was more incriminating than I expected.
I know it’s moot now, but like you may want to also search “tony” while you’re in there next time, boss.
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I do not distrust Michelle, and it was the correct decision to back off of ted today. But I’m not 100% sure I believe ted is town.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:01 pm I do not distrust Michelle, and it was the correct decision to back off of ted today. But I’m not 100% sure I believe ted is town.
to clarify: we know nothing about the setup, and Michelle has not claimed anything specific about her role, that I know of. Even if she is a cop, it is possible for a godfather to exist.
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Marmot already showed as innocent to cops so hopefully theres not more than 1 of those
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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I am unlikely to do anything big tonight. My brain needs to recalibrate.

I want to echo the voices that have said we do not need to panic. Our POE is still likely to contain at least a couple of wolves.

But what I would like to see is more open communication from and with everyone. That includes myself. Everyone is town until proven otherwise. And it is going to take a full team effort to get where we need to go.
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KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:14 pm Marmot already showed as innocent to cops so hopefully theres not more than 1 of those
So he did. Two godfathers is broken and goofy.

I’ll still maintain a space in my brain for ted to be mafia. But it will not be a space I allow myself to dwell in at the expense of more pressing concerns.
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I will also tentatively call LC a town read for his reaction to my ted case.
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LC has had some decent vibes

I'd put him in my very light town lean tier with Fingersplints

I feel like one of my Canucks is a wolf and I should see if I can substantiate that feeling when I'm sober
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:29 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:00 pm why is fingersplints a suspect? i don’t understand that. her posts seem completely fine to me
Just glancing at the thread after getting in from work. Have not read anything.

Fingersplints is in the “Not a townread” mold rather than the “scum read” mold.
why isn’t she a town read?
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:38 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:53 pm Like... don't *believe* me. Go into Sloonei's ISO and search for 'TSP' and decide for yourselves. I went in just to see what Sloonei's position on TSP has been, and what I found was more incriminating than I expected.
I know it’s moot now, but like you may want to also search “tony” while you’re in there next time, boss.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:01 pm I do not distrust Michelle, and it was the correct decision to back off of ted today. But I’m not 100% sure I believe ted is town.
to clarify: we know nothing about the setup, and Michelle has not claimed anything specific about her role, that I know of. Even if she is a cop, it is possible for a godfather to exist.

it’s best to treat the peek as real for the foreseeable future
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:18 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:14 pm Marmot already showed as innocent to cops so hopefully theres not more than 1 of those
So he did. Two godfathers is broken and goofy.

I’ll still maintain a space in my brain for ted to be mafia. But it will not be a space I allow myself to dwell in at the expense of more pressing concerns.
yea, if ted is a wolf he’d have to be on the other team because marmot’s team wouldn’t have a second godfather
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Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:29 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:00 pm why is fingersplints a suspect? i don’t understand that. her posts seem completely fine to me
Just glancing at the thread after getting in from work. Have not read anything.

Fingersplints is in the “Not a townread” mold rather than the “scum read” mold.
why isn’t she a town read?
Her style has not leant itself to being overtly anything. She’s been active enough to avoid being a low poster, but has not done anything that has rocked the boat in any way either.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:42 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:29 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:00 pm why is fingersplints a suspect? i don’t understand that. her posts seem completely fine to me
Just glancing at the thread after getting in from work. Have not read anything.

Fingersplints is in the “Not a townread” mold rather than the “scum read” mold.
why isn’t she a town read?
Her style has not leant itself to being overtly anything. She’s been active enough to avoid being a low poster, but has not done anything that has rocked the boat in any way either.
that seems like more a playstyle thing than an alignment thing, no? is she usually one to rock the boat as a villager?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

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Why was nanook not an option after Michelle wiped ted off the board?

I would have voted for al_sama if I was here and being forced to choose between him and TSP. LC was partially right about me: I never suspected TSP that hard. If anything, I wish, I’d done more to stick up for him.
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Nanook has a claim and there was no use forcing that out if Al Sama or TSP was on the table
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