Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:20 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
On day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
Oh I forgot about that.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:14 amI defended your slot D1, but then was concerned I was wrong with the Dya NK who was heavily suspecting you D1hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:06 am"I'm super town" isn't super appealing?
Why is JPIC super town?
Mac is quite capable of being wrongTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOn day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
Just be clear, when you say "Mac associated you with Cat" are you saying the case is valid because Mac made it, or that the case is valid generally.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOn day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
plx don't have expectations for me, no matter what they are I assure you I can disappoint them.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOh I forgot about that.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:14 amI defended your slot D1, but then was concerned I was wrong with the Dya NK who was heavily suspecting you D1hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:06 am"I'm super town" isn't super appealing?
Why is JPIC super town?
I also defended Thunal Day 1. Please live up to those expectations hk![]()
Isn't mac the one that delivered cat unto us? That's what I gather anyways.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:23 pmMac is quite capable of being wrongTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOn day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
Making Friends and Enemies, he nailed nutella and I pretty accurately (but I killed him before he could really push me)tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:01 pm i dont disagree with blindly sheeping a player who has a consistent track record of yeeting mafia - if there is such a player then this is a good play
From the games ive played with town mac the only one that stands out to me is radiohead wrt his accuracy. Nothing else stands out i dont think. My sample size is low
Perhaps other people have played more games with him and have seen more of his great games, thats my only logical explanation for this discrepancy in our perceptions
how is it pragmatic to withhold informationtutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pmHis name is in there
If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend
oh dear, we're not supposed to meld this openly Tim, they'll start to get ideas
Oh, no question. And if you recall I was very skeptical about his "lock it in" on day one. But we now actually know that he was right on Cat...and a big part of his Cat case was that Cat and Made were doing the w/w dance in their interactions. So he is actually proven right on the Cat part of that read. In my opinion that makes the Made part of that read the best thing to move forward on.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:23 pmMac is quite capable of being wrongTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOn day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
The way that hes defending himself: repeating that he was just not online to vote cat, and that post he just wrote that he doesnt wanna appear too scummy coz hes realizing how easily ppl in this game scumread stuff and i could empathize with it. Like im just reading his posts and they seem town
Okay wait. I was the one who convinced you not to vote Martin, Mac's top scum read. No?Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pmMaking Friends and Enemies, he nailed nutella and I pretty accurately (but I killed him before he could really push me)tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:01 pm i dont disagree with blindly sheeping a player who has a consistent track record of yeeting mafia - if there is such a player then this is a good play
From the games ive played with town mac the only one that stands out to me is radiohead wrt his accuracy. Nothing else stands out i dont think. My sample size is low
Perhaps other people have played more games with him and have seen more of his great games, thats my only logical explanation for this discrepancy in our perceptions
He had me pegged in Shadow Corridors as well. I don't recall who else he nailed.
And also yes, he got cat this game.
He's at least better than I am at catching scum.
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:25 pmJust be clear, when you say "Mac associated you with Cat" are you saying the case is valid because Mac made it, or that the case is valid generally.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOn day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
If you're saying the case is valid generally, then why bring Mac into it?
I'm saying that based on the ensuing flip of Cat as a wolf the case looks pretty damn valid, and I'm 'bringing Mac into it' because if I try to steal credit from him for Cat's pelt he will probably try to murder me, and rightfully so.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:25 pmJust be clear, when you say "Mac associated you with Cat" are you saying the case is valid because Mac made it, or that the case is valid generally.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:22 pmOn day one feelie reads are kinda all there is. This isn't day one. Mac associated you with Cat. Cat flipped red. The next thing to be done stands out as sort of obvious to me.Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:00 pmif not feelie reads, what do you prefer?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pmHow about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
If you're saying the case is valid generally, then why bring Mac into it?
C'mon tutuu! I will encourage you with every patting in every fibre of my being. Turn that frown upside down!tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:28 pmThe way that hes defending himself: repeating that he was just not online to vote cat, and that post he just wrote that he doesnt wanna appear too scummy coz hes realizing how easily ppl in this game scumread stuff and i could empathize with it. Like im just reading his posts and they seem town
Also probbaly relevant that my townread on tim dropped after i realized game isnt multiball since that was the only reason why i townread him. I dont like mades wagon, i townread syn and marmot there but. Yea
Hard to verbalize, my motivation is at 0, my desire to ask ppl to follow me is 0, i wish this game to be over so theres that. i think made town thats all i gonna commit soz
only townies can be cool, mr. rad
Hi Syn! Why do people think you're wolfy?Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pmhow is it pragmatic to withhold informationtutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pmHis name is in there
If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend
they don't unfortunatelyhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmHi Syn! Why do people think you're wolfy?Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pmhow is it pragmatic to withhold informationtutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pmHis name is in there
If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend
I'm not arguing anything, I'm just clarifying whether the biggest weight of the case against me comes from Mac's Ethos or the Logos of the argument itself. It can obviously be both, but It sounds like to me that saying "Mac's case" makes it more like a Mac thing than a case thing.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:30 pm wait, hang on, what are you arguing here?
The case that associates you with cat was produced by mac, right? Seems like that's how you bring mac into it. He was right on cat, he associates you and cat together, and he's not been wrong yet this game (read as he's delivered a pelt). So like I'm struggling to understand what you're doing here.
would you feel better if I did? I mean I don't, but if you'd like me to I can work something up to get there.Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:33 pmthey don't unfortunatelyhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmHi Syn! Why do people think you're wolfy?Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pmhow is it pragmatic to withhold informationtutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pmHis name is in there
If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend
When did that happen? I have fond memories of having been a town read? Pretty sure I could go find lists in your ISO. How did I become not just sketchy, but sketchy enough to taint an entire wagon almost by myself?
@MarmotMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:25 pmfairMade wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:23 pmit's almost like i trusted your read and voted there because i believed you when you outlined the case.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 pmLikes catMade wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:21 pm oh my voters. already said some of this.. but.
best look - cat. saw scummy play, voted scummy player, left.
i don't think any of my voters look particularly bad, but that might just be because the whole multi team thing.. voting scummy looking people doesn't have the same advantage it normally does and i'm still internalizing that. more thinking required, but i'm leaving the processor running on that one.
I make case, suddenly doesn't like cat
I said it a bit earlier timmie on this page, tldr i realized i tr u coz game multiball but game isnt multiball. that made me go like oh waitTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:36 pmWhen did that happen? I have fond memories of having been a town read? Pretty sure I could go find lists in your ISO. How did I become not just sketchy, but sketchy enough to taint an entire wagon almost by myself?
i tr ur predecessor but then the n1 kill was convinced ur slot was maf, super super super convinced so im stuck between trsutinf my read and trustinf that read
let's not