Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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like he clarified it pretty early on Epi, this was day 3DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pmSyn N1 failed.
I would think that a claim plus me flipping green would warrant.
Rondo N2 showed him as a non threat.
remember that debate we had about syndicate site-wide rules and stuff about angleshooting and shit? and u was arguing that angleshooting is a poker term specifically and as such shoudnt apply to mafia or something? some ppl just like using words loosely man, we aint all english teachers :PEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:17 amWell, like I said, I try to pay attention to exact words.
It's rather convenient when he can interchange "non threat" with "innocent." They don't mean the same thing. That's a big reason I think Wilgy is full of shit and needs to die. That's mafia right there.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:17 amlike he clarified it pretty early on Epi, this was day 3DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pmSyn N1 failed.
I would think that a claim plus me flipping green would warrant.
Rondo N2 showed him as a non threat.
Uh, we all use words in this game. Deriving meaning from them is what we are supporsed tuh fdsoijoidjsfldsjlfkjsdlfkjsldkfjsldkfjtutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:18 amremember that debate we had about syndicate site-wide rules and stuff about angleshooting and shit? and u was arguing that angleshooting is a poker term specifically and as such shoudnt apply to mafia or something? some ppl just like using words loosely man, we aint all english teachers :PEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:17 amWell, like I said, I try to pay attention to exact words.
Explain how Wilgy is mechanically civilian. I'm looking forward to this.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:21 am i think that mechanically wilgy could be town and its the basis of my vote. i dont think that his claim contradicts epi's claim. especially if town can win with epi alive
[VOTE: epi] aubergine
on play alone i scumread him (wigly) and i did wanna flip wilgy before the 3p claim as evidenced by my posts and vote ITT, but i think this is just more correct now
this isnt a bastard game, so mechanically it would be eventutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:00 amwe dont know that he has equal amount of town and wolves in his bounty list doeRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:58 pmspecifically, 1 town is worth 1 wolf, every time I will take that deal and if your list is balanced 1 town to 1 wolf to 1 3p as I assume it would be. Letting you reach win con is fine for town because a wolf is worth 3 town. So even if its 2 town for 1 wolf I am ok with this trade. As long as wolves go first.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:52 pmI think I see what you mean. I responded to you above in detail based on what I thought you meant.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:50 pmif you are 3p, you kill 1 town to 1 mafia, that is fine for meEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:17 pmCould you rephrase what you mean?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:16 pmI mean, that equity is town favored?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm
I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.
Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.
Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.
he said he "evened up the platter or w/e" as a figure of speech. he shot axehole and sussed radish. he made no claim/elaboration on his execution targets
everyone can mechancially be civilian until proven otherwiseEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:22 amExplain how Wilgy is mechanically civilian. I'm looking forward to this.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:21 am i think that mechanically wilgy could be town and its the basis of my vote. i dont think that his claim contradicts epi's claim. especially if town can win with epi alive
[VOTE: epi] aubergine
on play alone i scumread him (wigly) and i did wanna flip wilgy before the 3p claim as evidenced by my posts and vote ITT, but i think this is just more correct now
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:21 am i think that mechanically wilgy could be town and its the basis of my vote. i dont think that his claim contradicts epi's claim. especially if town can win with epi alive
[VOTE: epi] aubergine
on play alone i scumread him (wigly) and i did wanna flip wilgy before the 3p claim as evidenced by my posts and vote ITT, but i think this is just more correct now
Damn, did that shift quickly.
if his bounty list wasnt even how it would be bastardRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:23 amthis isnt a bastard game, so mechanically it would be eventutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:00 amwe dont know that he has equal amount of town and wolves in his bounty list doeRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:58 pmspecifically, 1 town is worth 1 wolf, every time I will take that deal and if your list is balanced 1 town to 1 wolf to 1 3p as I assume it would be. Letting you reach win con is fine for town because a wolf is worth 3 town. So even if its 2 town for 1 wolf I am ok with this trade. As long as wolves go first.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:52 pmI think I see what you mean. I responded to you above in detail based on what I thought you meant.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:50 pmif you are 3p, you kill 1 town to 1 mafia, that is fine for me
he said he "evened up the platter or w/e" as a figure of speech. he shot axehole and sussed radish. he made no claim/elaboration on his execution targets
Yeah, no. You're Wilgy's teammate. Once Wilgy goes down, it will be known.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:24 ameveryone can mechancially be civilian until proven otherwiseEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:22 amExplain how Wilgy is mechanically civilian. I'm looking forward to this.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:21 am i think that mechanically wilgy could be town and its the basis of my vote. i dont think that his claim contradicts epi's claim. especially if town can win with epi alive
[VOTE: epi] aubergine
on play alone i scumread him (wigly) and i did wanna flip wilgy before the 3p claim as evidenced by my posts and vote ITT, but i think this is just more correct now
i didnt say that wilgy is mechanically civilian. i said could. there is no evidence for the contrary. if town can win with u staying alive u arent a threat to town. "innocent" and "not a threat" is something me and other people would use interchangably especially if we dodn't know there was 3p in this game, which we didnt until yesterday. wilgy is a man of few words
sure, that could be discussed on day 7, the day after wilgy is chopped, the day after the non-town player is choppedEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:26 amYeah, no. You're Wilgy's teammate. Once Wilgy goes down, it will be known.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:24 ameveryone can mechancially be civilian until proven otherwiseEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:22 amExplain how Wilgy is mechanically civilian. I'm looking forward to this.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:21 am i think that mechanically wilgy could be town and its the basis of my vote. i dont think that his claim contradicts epi's claim. especially if town can win with epi alive
[VOTE: epi] aubergine
on play alone i scumread him (wigly) and i did wanna flip wilgy before the 3p claim as evidenced by my posts and vote ITT, but i think this is just more correct now
i didnt say that wilgy is mechanically civilian. i said could. there is no evidence for the contrary. if town can win with u staying alive u arent a threat to town. "innocent" and "not a threat" is something me and other people would use interchangably especially if we dodn't know there was 3p in this game, which we didnt until yesterday. wilgy is a man of few words
I'm not really talking to you. I'm talking to show other people how full of shit you are.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:27 amsure, that could be discussed on day 7, the day after wilgy is chopped, the day after the non-town player is choppedEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:26 amYeah, no. You're Wilgy's teammate. Once Wilgy goes down, it will be known.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:24 ameveryone can mechancially be civilian until proven otherwiseEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:22 amExplain how Wilgy is mechanically civilian. I'm looking forward to this.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:21 am i think that mechanically wilgy could be town and its the basis of my vote. i dont think that his claim contradicts epi's claim. especially if town can win with epi alive
[VOTE: epi] aubergine
on play alone i scumread him (wigly) and i did wanna flip wilgy before the 3p claim as evidenced by my posts and vote ITT, but i think this is just more correct now
i didnt say that wilgy is mechanically civilian. i said could. there is no evidence for the contrary. if town can win with u staying alive u arent a threat to town. "innocent" and "not a threat" is something me and other people would use interchangably especially if we dodn't know there was 3p in this game, which we didnt until yesterday. wilgy is a man of few words
iss probably best if we disengage instead of repeating the same stuff at each other, at least on my end it feels like we said all we got to say for now
You're losing cause you claimed lulzEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 pm This is fun.
I kill a civilian = Epi must be good.
I kill a mafia = Epi must needs to go.
Wilgy calls me good = Epi must be good.
I call bullshit on Wilgy (for why? What purpose?) = Epi needs to go.
I'm happy with my play here. If I lose because mafia are running out of options, I'll consider that a personal victory.
Then I'm siding with you Rondo.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:32 am honestly if Epi is 3p I have no issue with him winning as long as mafia doesnt win
Watch him be on your bounty listEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:33 amThen I'm siding with you Rondo.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:32 am honestly if Epi is 3p I have no issue with him winning as long as mafia doesnt win
I would still take that trade
I just said I don't care.
if wiggly flips mafia and we end up going 2 nights with no kills (After we are confident there are no more mafia) I will let you murder me for bounty so we get a joint win. ezpz
I will not argue host vernacular. I simply provide what I was given.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pmI parse. It is my profession and my nature.
Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."
While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.
I don't think that makes me innocent.
I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.
That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?
I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").
I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."
I think Wilgy gambled and lost.
Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.
It's that easy.
I appreciate you fishing for infoRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:45 am @Epignosis considering you might die tonight can I get a list of mafia? Possibly a list of all the people you need to die to win so I can post humorously get you the win
He's a liar.
No, he's not scumRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:46 am There is a world where Epi is scum but why would he come out of slanking like this when we were pushing wiggly anyway or me or tutuu or falcon. I dont think he had any real threat on him
No.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:45 amI will not argue host vernacular. I simply provide what I was given.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pmI parse. It is my profession and my nature.
Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."
While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.
I don't think that makes me innocent.
I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.
That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?
I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").
I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."
I think Wilgy gambled and lost.
Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.
It's that easy.
Innocent as far as I am concerned meant to me that you were a non threat. This leads me to believe that you are honest in your win condition not being counter to towns.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:45 pmYis or failure.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:43 pmso u get "threat" result and "non-threat" result that it?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pmSyn N1 failed.
I would think that a claim plus me flipping green would warrant.
Rondo N2 showed him as a non threat.
Carrying over from last RD, so yeah...you seem upset. Why?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:31 pmnaked vote after made pushes me, no thought or insight just sheep
heh it was worth a chance and its not like I am blindly following youEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:48 amI appreciate you fishing for infoRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:45 am @Epignosis considering you might die tonight can I get a list of mafia? Possibly a list of all the people you need to die to win so I can post humorously get you the win
But I'm just gunning for mafia at this point. If I win, I win. If I don't, what else is new?
Wilgy
tutuu
Nanook
None of these three look like civilians. If they are, oh well. That's my stance as of right now.
I'm almost certain Wilgy is mafia, and if I'm right, there's plenty of meat to stew on in these pages.
last RD? you're just coasting by silently this game which isnt your norm as far as I know you. So I am bringing this to peoples attention. Upset? Not reallyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:50 amCarrying over from last RD, so yeah...you seem upset. Why?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:31 pmnaked vote after made pushes me, no thought or insight just sheep
The lady doth protest too much methinks?
"Innocent as far as I am concerned meant to me that you were a non threat. This leads me to believe that you are honest in your win condition not being counter to towns."Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:50 amNo.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:45 amI will not argue host vernacular. I simply provide what I was given.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pmI parse. It is my profession and my nature.
Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."
While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.
I don't think that makes me innocent.
I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.
That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?
I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").
I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."
I think Wilgy gambled and lost.
Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.
It's that easy.
Innocent as far as I am concerned meant to me that you were a non threat. This leads me to believe that you are honest in your win condition not being counter to towns.
No.
No.
No.
No.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:45 pmYis or failure.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:43 pmso u get "threat" result and "non-threat" result that it?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pmSyn N1 failed.
I would think that a claim plus me flipping green would warrant.
Rondo N2 showed him as a non threat.
That is how my role works. Innocent is just non threat as far as I'm concerned.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:50 amNo.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:45 amI will not argue host vernacular. I simply provide what I was given.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pmI parse. It is my profession and my nature.
Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."
While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.
I don't think that makes me innocent.
I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.
That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?
I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").
I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."
I think Wilgy gambled and lost.
Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.
It's that easy.
Innocent as far as I am concerned meant to me that you were a non threat. This leads me to believe that you are honest in your win condition not being counter to towns.
No.
No.
No.
No.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:45 pmYis or failure.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:43 pmso u get "threat" result and "non-threat" result that it?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pmSyn N1 failed.
I would think that a claim plus me flipping green would warrant.
Rondo N2 showed him as a non threat.
7. Please don't reference any communication with the host!
Very well. I rescind that question.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:55 am7. Please don't reference any communication with the host!
I am not going to argue vernacular.
My opinion is that my reference to innocent should be seen as non-threat as that is the understanding of my role. Again, I believe that you are not a threat to town. Same applies to Rondo. Does this mean you are town? No, but we do not need to yeet you.
