The Syndicate

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

You think she is probably innocent? Just probably? And yet you will defend her to your last breath.

This is all very odd to me.

Very, very curious indeed.

Hedgeowl wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:I don't want to die.

I still think Ace is worth watching, but this post made me feel bad for voting for you.

thellama73 wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I see DP is online. Care to tie it up and make things interesting, DP? Like, in the next 8 minutes?

Are you invested in BWT's survival?

Where have you been? I've been fervently arguing that he is a civ for a long time now.

This post I find more interesting though. I was not originally suspicious of llama's defense of bwt, but this seems a bit desperate to me. Why would he specifically ask DP to vote for Ace to tie , unless it was to defend bwt? Since he voted much earlier possibly trying to start a trend, he couldn't protect a teammate maybe? Worth reading his posts for sure.

The strange voting for Mongoose surprised me too. DH claims to have shot in the dark at early A Person voters and then Vomps hopped on board right quick. Whether DH's vote is suspicous or not Vomps definitely is, so I'll be watching these few to see what happens.

If I get killed during the night, immediately look at those two.

Mongoose wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

You think she is probably innocent? Just probably? And yet you will defend her to your last breath.

This is all very odd to me.

Very, very curious indeed.

You still didn't explain why you're 350% suspicious of me now.

I have no defense for myself other than to say I thought I was reading civ BWT, and I thought I saw a baddie railroading of him from Rob and others. I felt really sure of myself, but I was wrong. I'm sorry I cast doubt on Epignosis now. He had more insight than I did.

I almost believe you Llama.

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

You think she is probably innocent? Just probably? And yet you will defend her to your last breath.

This is all very odd to me.

Very, very curious indeed.

You still didn't explain why you're 350% suspicious of me now.

...Quite a few people have explained why you look like one of BWT's teammates. Have you not been reading the thread, or are you choosing not to respond?

Vomps,

It was only 250%, so there's no reason to panic.

RE: our suspicion: I think partially it was not stuff you have said yourself. Like how bwt's was perceived to criticize all of the early voters, except for you.

And maybe your staunch defense of Lizzy is purely innocuous, but it does turn our interrogation lamp (wouldn't it be great to actually have one of those?) to both of you. You seem so certain of Lizzy's allegiance, which could mean very few explanations. (That is, if we assume that you do actually know what Lizzy is up to).

I think this was somewhat coherent, but I've not yet had coffee, so y'all have to let me know if this needs further clarification or elucidation.

Snow Dog wrote:I almost believe you Llama.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!

Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Maybe just a little something extra for us to go on?

Mongoose wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Maybe just a little something extra for us to go on?

I'm being framed.

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Maybe just a little something extra for us to go on?

I'm being framed.

Interesting. Do you have any suspects that you think would want to frame you?

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

How many days of straight listening is that going to take you!?

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

That's awesome. I can't even imagine how long that would take me, lol. It sounds like a cool project though.

Mongoose wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Maybe just a little something extra for us to go on?

I'm being framed.

Interesting. Do you have any suspects that you think would want to frame you?

Whoever it was who first brought up BWT excluding me from the suspicious early voters/randomizers.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

That's awesome. I can't even imagine how long that would take me, lol. It sounds like a cool project though.

I did it a few years back, only organized by song length, shortest to longest (the first few days were insanely schizophrenic.) It took me a full year to get through me library, and I have considerably more music now than I did then.

juliets wrote:Good points Epignosis. What do you think about Vomps? You can wait until day to answer if you feel more comfortable doing so.

In for a penny, in for a pound.

I don't know about Vompatti. The cavalier attitude that is prevalent in quite a few people makes me nervous, but Vomp always exhibits bizarre behavior. And I know that his eccentricities have gotten him killed or lynched early on before.

This, though, makes me wonder:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote: and so far I'm not seeing what Rob is in BWT.

He criticized people for early random voting.

Vompatti was the only one to do this.

He excused Vompatti.

He said "people who have randomized or talked about randomizing (e.g. A Person)" so Vomps wasn't the only one on his list. I don't know, I have been reading him as civ so far, but perhaps you are on to something.

linki: juliets. I also feel almost positive that Vomps is civ.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

That's awesome. I can't even imagine how long that would take me, lol. It sounds like a cool project though.

Based on what is currently on my laptop, it would take me exactly 1 month. If you did all my music period, it would easily be at least 2 months probably.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

That's awesome. I can't even imagine how long that would take me, lol. It sounds like a cool project though.

Based on what is currently on my laptop, it would take me exactly 1 month. If you did all my music period, it would easily be at least 2 months probably.

Well, obviously I don't listen to it 24 hours a day.

thellama73 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Ooooh. I'm not BWT's teammate.

Me neither!

On a lighter note, I've decided to listen to my entire music library in alphabetical order by song. I've gone through 120 songs so far, and I'm up to Ag, so it's going to take a while.

That's awesome. I can't even imagine how long that would take me, lol. It sounds like a cool project though.

Based on what is currently on my laptop, it would take me exactly 1 month. If you did all my music period, it would easily be at least 2 months probably.

Well, obviously I don't listen to it 24 hours a day.

You don't?

What a weirdo.

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

omgomgogngh I will defend you with my life as well k innocent or guilty

Snow Dog wrote:
Fair enough. Then I will trust my own feelings.

I don't want to rain on your parade (again :P) but last time(s) you did that, well... it didn't turn out exactly as it should have. Although, maybe this is a lucky break. Also, thanks for the nice compliments. Being called a clever and convincing liar is a compliment, right? Right?

I'm somewhat tormented because I don't want to go after someone again just because they are eccentric or come across as quirky. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. I listen to Belle & Sebastian for goodness sake. I can hardly point fingers for that alone. I feel really bad about the A Person situation , so I want to try to get a better read on Vompers before we cast someone out again just because his/her persona is a little more sparkly.

I'm not at all saying that I'm crossing him off my suspects list, but just rather saying we should be cautious before picking him next go-round. Any thoughts on this?

Mongoose wrote:I'm somewhat tormented because I don't want to go after someone again just because they are eccentric or come across as quirky. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. I listen to Belle & Sebastian for goodness sake. I can hardly point fingers for that alone. I feel really bad about the A Person situation , so I want to try to get a better read on Vompers before we cast someone out again just because his/her persona is a little more sparkly.

I'm not at all saying that I'm crossing him off my suspects list, but just rather saying we should be cautious before picking him next go-round. Any thoughts on this?

My thought when I mentioned Vomps (I think I said this but not sure) is that bwt exempting Vomps from the early random voters has my eye but I'm not ready to lynch him yet. There is nothing in his behavior that I've found suspicious (I'll re-read his posts to make double sure) it's just bwt's actions concerning Vomps that draws my eye.

Snow Dog wrote:Dom, frankly I don't care if you liked what I said or not. I admit I back pedalled a little because I shouldn't have posted in annoyance. But that doesn't make me bad. A bad person maybe and maybe bad judgement in posting it. But not in game bad.
Why not vote for Aceofspaces who was even more forthright than I? I don't see you questioning his post!

Because he didn't say that he didn't care about allignment.... . . ... ...? You seemed a bit more extreme to me. And I don't think Aces is bad at the moment... nice subtle attempt to bring attention onto me, though.

Snow Dog wrote:In case anybody else thinks I was completely out of order in my comment regarding aglaminranks, may I take this opportunity to remind everyone of what AceofSpaces said.

No one look at me! Look at Aces!

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

omgomgogngh I will defend you with my life as well k innocent or guilty

RIPIYWG juliets and LT!

Dom wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

omgomgogngh I will defend you with my life as well k innocent or guilty

I can only guess but I think we're defending each other because it wasn't until recently that destiny brought us back together.

First of all RIP and juliets.

Dom wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Dom, frankly I don't care if you liked what I said or not. I admit I back pedalled a little because I shouldn't have posted in annoyance. But that doesn't make me bad. A bad person maybe and maybe bad judgement in posting it. But not in game bad.
Why not vote for Aceofspaces who was even more forthright than I? I don't see you questioning his post!

Because he didn't say that he didn't care about allignment.... . . ... ...? You seemed a bit more extreme to me. And I don't think Aces is bad at the moment... nice subtle attempt to bring attention onto me, though.

Snow Dog wrote:In case anybody else thinks I was completely out of order in my comment regarding aglaminranks, may I take this opportunity to remind everyone of what AceofSpaces said.

No one look at me! Look at Aces!

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

omgomgogngh I will defend you with my life as well k innocent or guilty

Simply pointing out Aces pretty much has the same opinion as me. Look at me everyone. I'm just saying that. This Dom guy seems a bit desperate to be honest. I actually think Aces is civ too and won't vote for him for sharing my opinion.

And how was I bringing attention on you subtly actually? Bit paranoid. You credit me with far too much savvy.

Just a friendly reminder... Don't forget about looting! Remember, a quick looter is an effective looter!

I won't be issuing any more such reminders, but wanted to just this once because I realize there is a lot going on this game.

Additionally, there will be an event. In order to sign up for this event, PM me by the end of Day 3 expressing interest in this event. Those who perform best in this event will certainly be grateful, while the unfortunate soul who comes in last... well, not so much. What is the event, you ask? Well, that's a secret.

Is anyone else watching Nik Wellenda walk across the Grand Canyon? It's going to be live on Discovery any minute now. My husband made me leave the room to watch it. It's such a big deal here cause we are near Sarasota, where all the Wellendas live. And the Ringling Museum.

I was not aware it was going to be a double elimination. That is pretty intense.

RIP LT and Juliets.

I was leaning civ on juliets and baddie on LT, so this is an interesting set of kills.

thellama73 wrote:RIP LT and Juliets.

I was leaning civ on juliets and baddie on LT, so this is an interesting set of kills.

Just dropping in. I can see how you can see juliets as possibly being civvie, but why LT as baddie? Care to explain? And my thoughts on vomp: He is usually quite bizarre in his ways and especially now with lizzy in the game. I'm trying hard to see if i can read anything off of him but I cant seem to get much. I am, however, seeing Mongoose as a bit wishy washy with the whole "I'm 350% suspicious of vomps" and then "Lets maybe not go after vomps so hard just yet in case he's civ like AP" deal going on.

Also still not ruling out Aces for the whole thing with agleaminranks.

>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:

thellama73 wrote:RIP LT and Juliets.

I was leaning civ on juliets and baddie on LT, so this is an interesting set of kills.

Just dropping in. I can see how you can see juliets as possibly being civvie, but why LT as baddie? Care to explain? And my thoughts on vomp: He is usually quite bizarre in his ways and especially now with lizzy in the game. I'm trying hard to see if i can read anything off of him but I cant seem to get much. I am, however, seeing Mongoose as a bit wishy washy with the whole "I'm 350% suspicious of vomps" and then "Lets maybe not go after vomps so hard just yet in case he's civ like AP" deal going on.

Someone mentioned how Vomps usually acts like that and wasn't pinging them so I went back through and concentrated on his posts. Also, I was interacting with A Person in a non-Mafia thread on here and just thinking it was such a shame that s/he was gone already. I'd rather look a little flaky than vote erroneously for a civ again.

Let the record show that I did state that Vomps was in no way off my radar.

>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:

thellama73 wrote:RIP LT and Juliets.

I was leaning civ on juliets and baddie on LT, so this is an interesting set of kills.

Just dropping in. I can see how you can see juliets as possibly being civvie, but why LT as baddie? Care to explain? And my thoughts on vomp: He is usually quite bizarre in his ways and especially now with lizzy in the game. I'm trying hard to see if i can read anything off of him but I cant seem to get much. I am, however, seeing Mongoose as a bit wishy washy with the whole "I'm 350% suspicious of vomps" and then "Lets maybe not go after vomps so hard just yet in case he's civ like AP" deal going on.

I was pinged by the way she came after me so hard the first day, then disappeared and never mentioned it again, even though I asked her about it. I feel like she was laying pretty low before her death. Not enough to have voted for her, but she was on my list of suspects.

Whew! Lots happening. RIPIYWG juliets and LT. Mathematically, it seems most likely you both were.

Even despite BWT flipping bad, I still think llama is most likely civ and just had the wool pulled over his eyes. He seems far too savvy to defend BWT so staunchly at the 11th hour when the lynch was that close. Unless he says something to really make me change my mind I won't be voting him tomorrow.

I do think late Ace voters are worth keeping in mind, and I plan on rereading them before decision time tomorrow to see if a certain one stands out. As someone pointed out, they definitely can't all have been on BWT's team because he only had 2 teammates.

I think Vomps is a better place to look than llama. To me it seems more likely that BWT would defend a teammate on Day 1, when no one suspected BWT yet and a lynch of Vomps was probably a ways off, than it does that llama would defend a soon-to-be-revealed teammate. Maybe it's WIFOM-y, but I find it logical.

I also don't think BWT's evilness necessarily precludes Aces, Lizzy, or Dex from being bad. I do feel a bit better about Aces now, because he read fairly sincere to me toward the end of Day 2. Still very unsure about Dex's angle, and of those 3 I feel worst about Lizzy, especially if Vomps is bad.

That's more or less who I'll be looking at as we had into Day 3.

:coffee bath:

RIP Juliets and LT. I was thinking civ for LT, or at least not on BWT's team. I had no read on Juliets.

I need to do a reread on Lizzy and Dex, because neither one struck me as terribly pingy last round (Dex is always wacky in my experience).

RIP JC and LT.

This game is hurting my head.

RIP juliets and LT.

I'm looking at Lizzy and Vomps today. Although, since I read llama as civ, the way he and Vomps mutually vouched for each other as civvies seems like it could be genuine.

Snow Dog wrote: Simply pointing out Aces pretty much has the same opinion as me. Look at me everyone. I'm just saying that. This Dom guy seems a bit desperate to be honest. I actually think Aces is civ too and won't vote for him for sharing my opinion.

And how was I bringing attention on you subtly actually? Bit paranoid. You credit me with far too much savvy.

Yeah, not trying to put attention on me at all.