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Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm**

I think Lily is my ride or die town here. I kinda don't trust anyone else.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Actually I could 100% get behind Neon as a wolf. I was thinking about it last night.
lol so ur wolfreads are belzy/neon but u think im a wolf

Eh tbh I'm not sure.

I just hate your start of day and it feels like a wolf who has built townreads trying to leverage it for a game-winning play. Including the assumption that this is lylo because you know there's a 2nd kill if wolves get this wagon off.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm I think from spew and activity in the game belzy is mafia

Spew? Like Porscha spew?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm**

Actually no I think ilario is wolf 100% of the time here.

Which probably means Neon/Belzy has 1 wolf max

Because there's no vote-skipper active. Unless it was a limited shot power and they got lucky, then this is essentially a frame job on me.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm**

I think Dya is wolf as well.

I've thought that a lot.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Actually I could 100% get behind Neon as a wolf. I was thinking about it last night.
lol so ur wolfreads are belzy/neon but u think im a wolf
Eh tbh I'm not sure.

I just hate your start of day and it feels like a wolf who has built townreads trying to leverage it for a game-winning play. Including the assumption that this is lylo because you know there's a 2nd kill if wolves get this wagon off.

You are reacting to him the exact same way I am. So I'll ride or die with you as well.

Man's gotta have some friends.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm**

Over the last 48 hours*

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm @Lilypetal
I'm not dense, but the conclusion could also just be my shots are considered items which most of the time can we used with abilities, if that's the case, you could have clarified that, since I didn't think to even ask, I just thought about that last night and wanted to come gunning for you

Okay

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm Actually no I think ilario is wolf 100% of the time here.

Which probably means Neon/Belzy has 1 wolf max

Because there's no vote-skipper active. Unless it was a limited shot power and they got lucky, then this is essentially a frame job on me.

I think Neon and Belzy has 0 wolves. I think Millium is a wolf.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm I think Lily is my ride or die town here. I kinda don't trust anyone else.

yeah i feel like everyone else is a wolf here and it's rly uncomfy lol

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm**

mac is there ever a world where belzy is town? im not sure what to make of everyone just circling in on belzy atm and not really looking into ender. but its really hard for me to see belzy as town based on their play the last couple days

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:09 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm Actually no I think ilario is wolf 100% of the time here.

Which probably means Neon/Belzy has 1 wolf max

Because there's no vote-skipper active. Unless it was a limited shot power and they got lucky, then this is essentially a frame job on me.
I think Neon and Belzy has 0 wolves. I think Millium is a wolf.

And town absolutely fucked themselves D1?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:09 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm Actually no I think ilario is wolf 100% of the time here.

Which probably means Neon/Belzy has 1 wolf max

Because there's no vote-skipper active. Unless it was a limited shot power and they got lucky, then this is essentially a frame job on me.
I think Neon and Belzy has 0 wolves. I think Millium is a wolf.

oh u answered me

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:09 pm**

guys was seven not the person taking away votes?? i read their role and it seemed like it

am i dumb

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:10 pm**

Anyway I do really need to close this thread so I'll be back later.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:10 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Actually I could 100% get behind Neon as a wolf. I was thinking about it last night.
lol so ur wolfreads are belzy/neon but u think im a wolf
Eh tbh I'm not sure.

I just hate your start of day and it feels like a wolf who has built townreads trying to leverage it for a game-winning play. Including the assumption that this is lylo because you know there's a 2nd kill if wolves get this wagon off.

except im actively wary of my townread rn pushing only belzy and ignoring you. so that argument is already debunked.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:11 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm mac is there ever a world where belzy is town? im not sure what to make of everyone just circling in on belzy atm and not really looking into ender. but its really hard for me to see belzy as town based on their play the last couple days

I think Belzy is town yes.

Unless you tell me Belzy slanking is in their scumrange and they are polarised that way.

They have shown solving mindset in chat. Their reaction to my interrogation was townish.

I know the mech says otherwise but I don't trust the mech.

I could just be a fool.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:12 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:10 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Actually I could 100% get behind Neon as a wolf. I was thinking about it last night.
lol so ur wolfreads are belzy/neon but u think im a wolf
Eh tbh I'm not sure.

I just hate your start of day and it feels like a wolf who has built townreads trying to leverage it for a game-winning play. Including the assumption that this is lylo because you know there's a 2nd kill if wolves get this wagon off.
except im actively wary of my townread rn pushing only belzy and ignoring you. so that argument is already debunked.

"Built Townreads" = made people townread you and got thread presence/control to take over the day.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:12 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:07 pm Actually no I think ilario is wolf 100% of the time here.

Which probably means Neon/Belzy has 1 wolf max

Because there's no vote-skipper active. Unless it was a limited shot power and they got lucky, then this is essentially a frame job on me.
I think Neon and Belzy has 0 wolves. I think Millium is a wolf.
And town absolutely fucked themselves D1?

Would that be surprising?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:12 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:11 pm
End of Day 3

With the bodies piling up, they quickly turned on each other.

"I saw you outside of Marmot's room last night!" Ricochet said and pointed at Nanook.

"I had just read him his bedtime story. I always do that!" Nanook replied. "What were you doing up anyway?"

"Excellent point!" Jack chimed in.

"Ricochet. I think it's time for you to go home." Dunya said sternly.

The man Ricochet was too stunned to speak. He had been looking forward to the meet up for months. And it certainly hadn't turned out the way he expected.

"We've already packed your bags. Why did you bring a wrestling outfit anyway?"

@Chamomile has been eliminated.

Spoiler: show
They were Ricochet, Town.

Chamomile, you are Ricochet (Town), long lost prince of Goodguyia, returned at last. Has it really only been four years? Seems fitting that you should be placed in a Jack game against your will to mark both your disappearance and triumphant return.

Impulsive? Me? What does this button do? - Each night you may press a button. There is a green, a yellow and a red button. You can only push one button each night, and you can only push each button once.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

@Belzy
@dyachei
@EnderWiggin
@ilario
@Lilypetal
@MacDougall
@Millium
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Neon
@RondoDimBuckle
@santygrass
@Seanzie

Please submit any night actions within the next 23 hours. Thank you!

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@Lilypetal wdym? how is this the vote blocker

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:13 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:12 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:10 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Actually I could 100% get behind Neon as a wolf. I was thinking about it last night.
lol so ur wolfreads are belzy/neon but u think im a wolf
Eh tbh I'm not sure.

I just hate your start of day and it feels like a wolf who has built townreads trying to leverage it for a game-winning play. Including the assumption that this is lylo because you know there's a 2nd kill if wolves get this wagon off.
except im actively wary of my townread rn pushing only belzy and ignoring you. so that argument is already debunked.
"Built Townreads" = made people townread you and got thread presence/control to take over the day.

who have i made townread me other than dya?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:13 pm**

belzy could be a 3p tbh with their level of involvement in the game

im just struggling to see them caring about winning here

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:13 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:11 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:08 pm mac is there ever a world where belzy is town? im not sure what to make of everyone just circling in on belzy atm and not really looking into ender. but its really hard for me to see belzy as town based on their play the last couple days
I think Belzy is town yes.

Unless you tell me Belzy slanking is in their scumrange and they are polarised that way.

They have shown solving mindset in chat. Their reaction to my interrogation was townish.

I know the mech says otherwise but I don't trust the mech.

I could just be a fool.

hmmm, okay i wont do belzy today. i want ender really badly though

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:14 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:11 pm
End of Day 3

With the bodies piling up, they quickly turned on each other.

"I saw you outside of Marmot's room last night!" Ricochet said and pointed at Nanook.

"I had just read him his bedtime story. I always do that!" Nanook replied. "What were you doing up anyway?"

"Excellent point!" Jack chimed in.

"Ricochet. I think it's time for you to go home." Dunya said sternly.

The man Ricochet was too stunned to speak. He had been looking forward to the meet up for months. And it certainly hadn't turned out the way he expected.

"We've already packed your bags. Why did you bring a wrestling outfit anyway?"

@Chamomile has been eliminated.

Spoiler: show
They were Ricochet, Town.

Chamomile, you are Ricochet (Town), long lost prince of Goodguyia, returned at last. Has it really only been four years? Seems fitting that you should be placed in a Jack game against your will to mark both your disappearance and triumphant return.

Impulsive? Me? What does this button do? - Each night you may press a button. There is a green, a yellow and a red button. You can only push one button each night, and you can only push each button once.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

@Belzy
@dyachei
@EnderWiggin
@ilario
@Lilypetal
@MacDougall
@Millium
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Neon
@RondoDimBuckle
@santygrass
@Seanzie

Please submit any night actions within the next 23 hours. Thank you!

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@Lilypetal wdym? how is this the vote blocker

It doesn't say what the buttons do. Figured seven pressed 2 mysterious buttons and 2 people were removed from the polls. Lined up in my head

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:14 pm**

mmac if ur town and we cant even see eye to eye on ender then this is always gonna be an L because thats the one read im not compromising on

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:14 pm**

Anyone here familiar with Belzy that can describe them as a player?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm**

because its not just my read there its mech as well

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm**

struggling to see how v!neon comes into thread with a meme prepped and then voting me

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:16 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:14 pm mmac if ur town and we cant even see eye to eye on ender then this is always gonna be an L because thats the one read im not compromising on

Oh well.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:17 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm because its not just my read there its mech as well

Well he indicates he was roleblocked.

The poll remover might have only been 2 shot. Or they holstered. Or they targeted Santy or Seanzie.

It's not a slam dunk my guy.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:17 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm because its not just my read there its mech as well
Well he indicates he was roleblocked.

The poll remover might have only been 2 shot. Or they holstered. Or they targeted Santy or Seanzie.

It's not a slam dunk my guy.

it could be 2 shot, i dont think they would holster or target the slots they nk + slots who happened to be easy mls to push

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm**

Dya
Millium
Rondo

Can this be the mafia team?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:21 pm**

sure i understand the benefit of blocking a poe spot to raise suspicion on them, but the margin for error is smaller now its less people and im sure wolves would just wanna have every ml candidate available when another ml probs just ends it

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:22 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:17 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm because its not just my read there its mech as well
Well he indicates he was roleblocked.

The poll remover might have only been 2 shot. Or they holstered. Or they targeted Santy or Seanzie.

It's not a slam dunk my guy.
it could be 2 shot, i dont think they would holster or target the slots they nk + slots who happened to be easy mls to push

Yeah targeting easy mls to push is definitely not the exact MO of the person doing it. See Tilgarial.

Also there is no guarantee for reasons stated Seanzie and Santy were mafia night kills.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm Dya
Millium
Rondo

Can this be the mafia team?

i can perhaps see dyas play as being oriented towards pocketing me this game but even then im not sure i can get to dya until i see flips from teammates and solve backwards. sell me on the other two?

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm**

I'm never mafia Mac and you should know that based on previous games

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:21 pm sure i understand the benefit of blocking a poe spot to raise suspicion on them, but the margin for error is smaller now its less people and im sure wolves would just wanna have every ml candidate available when another ml probs just ends it

Well if that's the case just vote out Belzy.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:24 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:22 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:17 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm because its not just my read there its mech as well
Well he indicates he was roleblocked.

The poll remover might have only been 2 shot. Or they holstered. Or they targeted Santy or Seanzie.

It's not a slam dunk my guy.
it could be 2 shot, i dont think they would holster or target the slots they nk + slots who happened to be easy mls to push
Yeah targeting easy mls to push is definitely not the exact MO of the person doing it. See Tilgarial.

Also there is no guarantee for reasons stated Seanzie and Santy were mafia night kills.

i sorta address this in my other post. i can see why they would do it to raise sus when theres plenty of easy slots to still push on d2. this close to the endgame i think they want all their options on the table, but thats just what i think.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:24 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm I'm never mafia Mac and you should know that based on previous games

Clearly there are things I should know that I don't so you'd do better offering actual evidence and reasoning than appealing to my self esteem.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:25 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:21 pm sure i understand the benefit of blocking a poe spot to raise suspicion on them, but the margin for error is smaller now its less people and im sure wolves would just wanna have every ml candidate available when another ml probs just ends it
Well if that's the case just vote out Belzy.

there was still easy pushes yesterday now that we know cham and santy are defs town. and also it wasnt lylo yesterday, thats the main point fmpov i think ur missing in this

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:26 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm Dya
Millium
Rondo

Can this be the mafia team?
i can perhaps see dyas play as being oriented towards pocketing me this game but even then im not sure i can get to dya until i see flips from teammates and solve backwards. sell me on the other two?

Millium has survived by the skin of their teeth on 2 separate days.

Day 1 they largely survived due to the persuasiveness of dya selling Alison and I on the Arogame wagon.

Dya voted Cham yesterday as well.

If you think I've been pushing villagers take a look at dya this game.

Anyway Rondo is just there cuz I am theorycrafting. I have no particular reason to put him there.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:27 pm**

mac i rly don't think those wagons were w/v

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:27 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:22 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:17 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:15 pm because its not just my read there its mech as well
Well he indicates he was roleblocked.

The poll remover might have only been 2 shot. Or they holstered. Or they targeted Santy or Seanzie.

It's not a slam dunk my guy.
it could be 2 shot, i dont think they would holster or target the slots they nk + slots who happened to be easy mls to push
Yeah targeting easy mls to push is definitely not the exact MO of the person doing it. See Tilgarial.

Also there is no guarantee for reasons stated Seanzie and Santy were mafia night kills.

well one of them has to be? and if they arent then ender is just confirmed even more because it means i blocked the nk. either way i think seanzie is probs nk and santy is like some 3p kill or town kill if i had to guess idek.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:27 pm**

unless like the exact team is dya/neon/millium lol

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:28 pm**

i feel like wolves getting a tied v/w wagons at eod isn't what I'd expect out of how disorganized town is this game.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:29 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:26 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:20 pm Dya
Millium
Rondo

Can this be the mafia team?
i can perhaps see dyas play as being oriented towards pocketing me this game but even then im not sure i can get to dya until i see flips from teammates and solve backwards. sell me on the other two?
Millium has survived by the skin of their teeth on 2 separate days.

Day 1 they largely survived due to the persuasiveness of dya selling Alison and I on the Arogame wagon.

Dya voted Cham yesterday as well.

If you think I've been pushing villagers take a look at dya this game.

Anyway Rondo is just there cuz I am theorycrafting. I have no particular reason to put him there.

ahh okay i see what ur getting at. i can see how dya/mill look paired in that regard.

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:30 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:03 pm End of Day 3 Votes

Chamomile - 6 - Neon, Millium, ilario, dyachei, Seanzie, Chamomile
Millium - 6 - MacDougall, RondoDimBuckle, Belzy, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, EnderWiggin, santygrass
Neon - 1 - Lilypetal

seanzie and chamo(lol) flipped villager

other 4 on chamo are neon, ilario, dyachei, millium

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:31 pm**

mac if u think belzy is town then what do u make of ender coming into today thinking belzy is scum out of nowhere. his last read on belzy the previous day phase was a townread im pretty sure.

(this looks like a question but its moreso a prod to state that enders reads flip based on what llooks like oppurtunism to me)

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:33 pm**

[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:33 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:59 pm [VOTE: neon] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:59 pm [VOTE: cham] aubergine

we both went millium -> off millium

so millium was saved by 2 villagers

therefore wagons were most likely v/v imo

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