The Syndicate

Typhoony wrote:Eh maybe you should try my approach next time. Not the one under major suspicion atm. You are though, probably because your gameplay this game is similar to your baddie gameplay. Gameplay from me this game is not. Maybe, probably even, people have noticed that. And that's why none of the major powerhouses as you describe it really suspect me.

Glorfindel wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Eh maybe you should try my approach next time. Not the one under major suspicion atm. You are though, probably because your gameplay this game is similar to your baddie gameplay. Gameplay from me this game is not. Maybe, probably even, people have noticed that. And that's why none of the major powerhouses as you describe it really suspect me.

Maybe I should... It's clear that being honest and genuine and respectful has done me no favours this game.

MacDougall wrote:Hypothetically speaking, what role would self target?

Typhoony wrote:Can someone point out the differences for me between Glorfindels Star Wars game and this game (or point me to a post where someone already does)?

Typhoony wrote:Glor seems to be more like his Star Wars game from the very little I've read.

MacDougall wrote:No interest in helping me at all here Glorfindel?

MacDougall wrote:Hypothetically speaking, what role would self target?

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Matt wrote:I'm tryin' to get things done, Dom. I'm tryin'.

You still like Turnips? I've never seen such a bad and/or indy player shove in my face how bad and/or indy they are, yet nobody wants to get behind a Turnips lynch. Does everyone still think he's Alfred or something?

Going back to another "confirmed civ", why isn't Mac dead? Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense for him to still be breathing. Derp.

Why do you think TH is bad and who thinks he is Alfred? The case was that he wasn't Alfred.

Despite dropping many hints in that direction over the last few days, there have been a distinct lack of TH or SVS (or anyone else) rejecting my assertion that SVS could be Batman.

Glorfindel wrote:

MacDougall wrote:No interest in helping me at all here Glorfindel?

I'm sorry, I didn't know your question was directed at me, my friend But sure...

MacDougall wrote:Hypothetically speaking, what role would self target?

Although, please allow me to clarify - are you asking what role would self-vote to have themselves lynched or what role would target itself with its own ability?

MacDougall wrote:Well Joker is dead so let's rule that one out.

MacDougall wrote:Anywho I'll let that one go for now.

Glorfindel wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:No problem, bud!

If you all disagree with me, that's totally fine with me; I'd be happy with a lynch of someone active too, particularly Glorfindel (he's increasingly seeming like his Star Wars self, and his lack of hunting is not convincing me otherwise) and sprityo (though, like others have speculated, it's very possible he's an inmate who's won). I just thought I'd throw my hat in the ring again this time for another inactive lynch. I may or may not go the same way tomorrow though. Just gotta see when I'll have some time to actually put more than a half-assed effort in the game at this point, since hosting is taking up a bunch of time.

@MP - my friend, you have gone from defending me at one point saying something to the effect that you would look suspiciously upon anyone who voted for me to advocating my lynching - and all of this seemingly based on a comparison between my playstyle in Star Wars and this game. I'm asking you now to explain what it is precisely that you identified in that comparison to lead you to such an apparent about face - it must surely have been something conclusive to have led you to such a change of heart.

Dom wrote:Also, when has Glorf been bandwagoned?

Matt wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Thank you!

You're welcome.

Linki - I think I've changed my mind. Let's lynch Glorfy.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Matt wrote:I'm tryin' to get things done, Dom. I'm tryin'.

You still like Turnips? I've never seen such a bad and/or indy player shove in my face how bad and/or indy they are, yet nobody wants to get behind a Turnips lynch. Does everyone still think he's Alfred or something?

Going back to another "confirmed civ", why isn't Mac dead? Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense for him to still be breathing. Derp.

Why do you think TH is bad and who thinks he is Alfred? The case was that he wasn't Alfred.

Despite dropping many hints in that direction over the last few days, there have been a distinct lack of TH or SVS (or anyone else) rejecting my assertion that SVS could be Batman.

DFaraday wrote:Linki: I'm kind of unclear about TH too. Everybody seems to be taking it for granted that he's civ and I feel like I missed why.

Turnip Head wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Linki: I'm kind of unclear about TH too. Everybody seems to be taking it for granted that he's civ and I feel like I missed why.

Maybe it's not being taken for granted. Maybe other players are critically thinking about my contributions and have concluded that I'm playing a strong game for the town. Have you read my posts DF? Have you looked into my contributions? Or are you just sort of skating by and not thinking deeply about what's happening?

MacDougall wrote:No interest in helping me at all here Glorfindel?

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Enrique wrote:

Matt wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Thank you!

You're welcome.

Linki - I think I've changed my mind. Let's lynch Glorfy.

wait
what?

Turnip Head wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Linki: I'm kind of unclear about TH too. Everybody seems to be taking it for granted that he's civ and I feel like I missed why.

Maybe it's not being taken for granted. Maybe other players are critically thinking about my contributions and have concluded that I'm playing a strong game for the town. Have you read my posts DF? Have you looked into my contributions? Or are you just sort of skating by and not thinking deeply about what's happening?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Linki: I'm kind of unclear about TH too. Everybody seems to be taking it for granted that he's civ and I feel like I missed why.

Maybe it's not being taken for granted. Maybe other players are critically thinking about my contributions and have concluded that I'm playing a strong game for the town. Have you read my posts DF? Have you looked into my contributions? Or are you just sort of skating by and not thinking deeply about what's happening?

This. I have a stronger town read on TH than anyone else remaining solely for these reasons.

Matt wrote:

MacDougall wrote:No interest in helping me at all here Glorfindel?

If you're alluding to targeting someone (probably Glorfy based on your questions) and finding out they self targeted...

Glorfy being such a nice guy, I can definitely see him taking himself hostage. Derp.

Matt wrote:Sorry, I was writing out a response to your question about TH last night, got all into Paul Walker's "Running Scared", and fell asleep. Blah. Anyway, to answer you about TH...I simply think he's lying about being Riddlerfied and even yesterday, I won't say which post, but I'm pretty sure during the day phase he was blatantly laughing at me over something that was occurring.

Matt wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Linki: I'm kind of unclear about TH too. Everybody seems to be taking it for granted that he's civ and I feel like I missed why.

Maybe it's not being taken for granted. Maybe other players are critically thinking about my contributions and have concluded that I'm playing a strong game for the town. Have you read my posts DF? Have you looked into my contributions? Or are you just sort of skating by and not thinking deeply about what's happening?

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Lulz.

Matt wrote:K Turnips. What do you think of Mac still being around?

MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, I think everyone should be questioned and examined, and we shouldn't take anything or anyone's town status for granted. Regarding my own play this game, I realize I have become much less focused and intense; that's my fault, and I apologize. I just don't have the time to put more into this game given my current RL and other "free time" obligations I have.

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:K Turnips. What do you think of Mac still being around?

I'm not a collection of vegetables but I was under the impression that the role Mac claimed would be basically vanilla now and hardly worth wasting a kill on? That would explain why he's still around.

Matt wrote:K Turnips. What do you think of Mac still being around?

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Matt wrote:I'm tryin' to get things done, Dom. I'm tryin'.

You still like Turnips? I've never seen such a bad and/or indy player shove in my face how bad and/or indy they are, yet nobody wants to get behind a Turnips lynch. Does everyone still think he's Alfred or something?

Going back to another "confirmed civ", why isn't Mac dead? Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense for him to still be breathing. Derp.

Why do you think TH is bad and who thinks he is Alfred? The case was that he wasn't Alfred.

Despite dropping many hints in that direction over the last few days, there have been a distinct lack of TH or SVS (or anyone else) rejecting my assertion that SVS could be Batman.

I am not, but why would you want me or anyone else to out my role if I was??

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, I think everyone should be questioned and examined, and we shouldn't take anything or anyone's town status for granted. Regarding my own play this game, I realize I have become much less focused and intense; that's my fault, and I apologize. I just don't have the time to put more into this game given my current RL and other "free time" obligations I have.

What would you say to the accusation that you only played hard enough to get suspicion off you and are now coasting?

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Matt wrote:I'm tryin' to get things done, Dom. I'm tryin'.

You still like Turnips? I've never seen such a bad and/or indy player shove in my face how bad and/or indy they are, yet nobody wants to get behind a Turnips lynch. Does everyone still think he's Alfred or something?

Going back to another "confirmed civ", why isn't Mac dead? Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense for him to still be breathing. Derp.

Why do you think TH is bad and who thinks he is Alfred? The case was that he wasn't Alfred.

Despite dropping many hints in that direction over the last few days, there have been a distinct lack of TH or SVS (or anyone else) rejecting my assertion that SVS could be Batman.

Well I did reject having any knowledge of SVS's role, but I don't know if you just glossed over it or what. I've defended other players the same way I've defended SVS, that doesn't make any of them Batman. But at the same time I'm not gonna sit here all day repeatedly rejecting your theory because I think both your time and mine is better spent elsewhere.

That said, you keep asserting this assertion over and over, what's your angle for doing so? Are you trying to get the Batman killed?

Matt wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:K Turnips. What do you think of Mac still being around?

I'm not a collection of vegetables but I was under the impression that the role Mac claimed would be basically vanilla now and hardly worth wasting a kill on? That would explain why he's still around.

What role are you assuming he claimed? I'm pretty sure he took responsibility for killing Zeebs, which leaves one role, which is not vanilla.

S~V~S wrote:I had forgetten that I read somewhere where Golden posted that he does not think drawing targets is an issue any more, iirc?

In any case, no matter what my role is, I am not going to hint at it or confirm it to you.

Golden wrote:I am saying that, if you are not the Batman, you have been perfectly happy to let my theory that you are lie for days. To me, you are either Batman or bad. The reason I didn't vote for you yesterday, and the reason I'm not today, is that I landed on Batman. If I'm wrong, then the real Batman should vote for you.

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:K Turnips. What do you think of Mac still being around?

I'm not a collection of vegetables but I was under the impression that the role Mac claimed would be basically vanilla now and hardly worth wasting a kill on? That would explain why he's still around.

What role are you assuming he claimed? I'm pretty sure he took responsibility for killing Zeebs, which leaves one role, which is not vanilla.

Zebra was killed by Bullock and I'd missed the fact he could track someone at night:
Detective Harvey Bullock
Bullock tracks or kills someone each Night. He has just one kill. Better make it a good one.

I somehow skipped over a bit and just read "he has one kill", leading me to assume that with his kill cashed in he was now powerless. Still, maybe the baddies just don't think a tracker is too big of a threat. Or maybe they don't buy his claim.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, I think everyone should be questioned and examined, and we shouldn't take anything or anyone's town status for granted. Regarding my own play this game, I realize I have become much less focused and intense; that's my fault, and I apologize. I just don't have the time to put more into this game given my current RL and other "free time" obligations I have.

What would you say to the accusation that you only played hard enough to get suspicion off you and are now coasting?

I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for thinking that, especially because it's partially true and I'll be the first to admit it. I misjudged how active this game was really going to be and how busy I would be. I really didn't have the time to play before my failed lynch, but I felt compelled to spend more of my free time ensuring certain things would happen and actually trying to actively hunt. Simultaneously though, I just have way more things taking up available free time than before my no lynch (when I mostly just had this game happening, whereas hosting Turf Wars now is taking up a buttload of time). Nonetheless, I won't sit here and lie and say it's not easier to sit back and coast more now that my suspicion has faded, become less invested in the game, and just not care as much about hunting as a result. Because all of that is true. I lack any sense of urgency at this point. Probably not fair to the rest of my civilian team, but it is what it is, especially since the hosts are lacking replacements (and there are about 4 or 5 players who would need them before me). I promise to try to recapture what I can going forward, but I also recognize my time and motivation limitations enough to be forthcoming with all of this.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wild theory time:

Is it possible that Golden wants to expose Batman because he's been targeted by a hallucinogen by Scarecrow, and now he needs Batman dead to win?