The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 am

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.

Lol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.

@TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.

We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.

....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory

Yeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:25 am Thanks Jackofhearts2005 for the fun game!

Thanks for playing.

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:28 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 am

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.

Lol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.

TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.

We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.

....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory

Yeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1

THIS DOESN’T ADD UP

dunya targeted Tony nd was misdirected on n1 and speedchuck says he got a result on DDL n1

[VOTE: SPEEDCHUCK] aubergine

there’s no reason for him to be alive as he will become a bigger threat to mafia everytime the number of players goes down

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:49 am there are only two mafia left and only so many players who could even possibly be mafia based on mechanics and shit

this game is absolutely solvable by process of elimination at this point, i think

unless my math is wrong, we have 3 chances to get our next mafia lynch (unless speedchuck is mafia in which case we only have 2 chances)

if we can narrow down our communal suspect list to 3 most likely scum players then that would go a huge distance towards a victory

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 am [VOTE: gwilikers] aubergine

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:28 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 am

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.

Lol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.

TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.

We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.

....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory

Yeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1

THIS DOESN’T ADD UP

dunya targeted Tony nd was misdirected on n1 and speedchuck says he got a result on DDL n1

[VOTE: SPEEDCHUCK] aubergine

there’s no reason for him to be alive as he will become a bigger threat to mafia everytime the number of players goes down

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:49 am there are only two mafia left and only so many players who could even possibly be mafia based on mechanics and shit

this game is absolutely solvable by process of elimination at this point, i think

unless my math is wrong, we have 3 chances to get our next mafia lynch (unless speedchuck is mafia in which case we only have 2 chances)

if we can narrow down our communal suspect list to 3 most likely scum players then that would go a huge distance towards a victory

Strictly mechanically:

If gwilikers is town, Kites is town. If Kites is town, neither Sig nor nutella made the kill last night (doesn't prove they aren't mafia but is a point in their favor).

If Kenway is town, I didn't make the kill last night (same as above).

Any other mechanical clears?

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:42 am i prevented fliers from targeting DDL

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:36 am

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 am [VOTE: gwilikers] aubergine

Reasoning please

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:48 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:36 am

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 am [VOTE: gwilikers] aubergine

Reasoning please

Since like the first day Ive thought he could be wildcard scum. Just a hunch really but if I was scum I'd want to fake claim his role. And it's convenient his role didn't work when iron dwarf was on chopping block

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:47 am process of elimination
[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

have at it

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:48 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:36 am

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 am [VOTE: gwilikers] aubergine

Reasoning please

Since like the first day Ive thought he could be wildcard scum. Just a hunch really but if I was scum I'd want to fake claim his role. And it's convenient his role didn't work when iron dwarf was on chopping block

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:03 am

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:47 am process of elimination
[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

have at it

Do you believe Kenway is mafia?

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 pm anyways I didn’t allow fliers to target sprityo so nutella and sig didn’t do that if i wasnt misdirected

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:32 am

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 pm anyways I didn’t allow fliers to target sprityo so nutella and sig didn’t do that if i wasnt misdirected

I am a doctor. I protected spirityo. So barring shenanigans only a horseman could have performed the kill.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:48 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:36 am

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 am [VOTE: gwilikers] aubergine

Reasoning please

Since like the first day Ive thought he could be wildcard scum. Just a hunch really but if I was scum I'd want to fake claim his role. And it's convenient his role didn't work when iron dwarf was on chopping block

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:26 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:03 am

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:47 am process of elimination
[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

have at it

Do you believe Kenway is mafia?

does your alignment somehow depend on kenway's? what did I miss

anyway yeah I'm POEing cbob and... rdw I guess, or maaaayyybe sig but that feels less likely

[VOTE: cbob] aubergine

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:39 am I believe Kenway also has a horse. But rdw is the more likely of the two I’d say.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:32 am

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 pm anyways I didn’t allow fliers to target sprityo so nutella and sig didn’t do that if i wasnt misdirected

I am a doctor. I protected spirityo. So barring shenanigans only a horseman could have performed the kill.

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:32 pm bob didn’t remind us he has a horse and tries to distract cos he killed sprityo

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:36 pm RDW, Kenway, and Bob all have horses.

From what I'm gathering, either Kenway and Bob are scum together, RDW is scum with someone, or a LOT of redirecting might have happened.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.

News to me.

For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work

I got Good guy on all checks

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:44 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.

News to me.

For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work

I got Good guy on all checks

if you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:44 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.

News to me.

For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work

I got Good guy on all checks

if you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?

Like I said earlier, I didn't know that. I had to go back and ask for Dunya's results. Which I did around the time I copped Marmot. Otherwise I would have mentioned DDL's towncred earlier.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:44 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.

News to me.

For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work

I got Good guy on all checks

if you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?

Like I said earlier, I didn't know that. I had to go back and ask for Dunya's results. Which I did around the time I copped Marmot. Otherwise I would have mentioned DDL's towncred earlier.

hm... so is the theory that Dunya was misdirected from Tony and got a different result because of misdirection and then later on the host went back to answer your question and mistakenly gave you the final misdirected results including the misdirection target instead of dunya's actual target?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:38 pm alright so assuming gwilikers and kites are telling the truth about their targets and weren't misdirected, only a horseperson could have killed sprityo last night right? and if kenway is telling the truth about reversing cbob (and also wasn't misdirected) then that leaves kenway and rdw as potential killers, correct? are there any other horses?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:41 pm we should consider that the mafia was able to kill epignosis through sprityo's protection, however sprityo was a known doctor and gwilikers didn't reveal his PHD until today, so he couldn't have been tampered with for that purpose, right?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:38 pm alright so assuming gwilikers and kites are telling the truth about their targets and weren't misdirected, only a horseperson could have killed sprityo last night right? and if kenway is telling the truth about reversing cbob (and also wasn't misdirected) then that leaves kenway and rdw as potential killers, correct? are there any other horses?

cbob

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:36 pm RDW, Kenway, and Bob all have horses.

From what I'm gathering, either Kenway and Bob are scum together, RDW is scum with someone, or a LOT of redirecting might have happened.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:41 pm we should consider that the mafia was able to kill epignosis through sprityo's protection, however sprityo was a known doctor and gwilikers didn't reveal his PHD until today, so he couldn't have been tampered with for that purpose, right?

I was thinking Gwil said something about doctorin yesterday