The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:07 pm**

The Poisoner has been making really pro town shots lately which is pretty bizarre.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm**

Mac's been on the wrong side of nearly every dialogue that has come after Day 1. He's made some nice posts here and there, e.g. opposed to Sonny, but he hasn't been there when it's counted. He has defended players for very bad reasons -- buying Owner's fruit claim, giving orangecrush town credit for asking to be shot. No thanks. I suspect he and nutella agreed upon a bus, and it isn't hard to find that in her reception of his suspicion on Day 1, and he didn't figure the rest of his team would collapse around him so quickly. So he's tried to prevent that collapse however possible.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:09 pm**

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:11 pm**

ok so I decided to get into this game by reading ISOs and I got about to the point in Alison’s iso where I got desperadoed and I stopped reading so if anyone wants to catch me up pls do

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm Mac's been on the wrong side of nearly every dialogue that has come after Day 1. He's made some nice posts here and there, e.g. opposed to Sonny, but he hasn't been there when it's counted. He has defended players for very bad reasons -- buying Owner's fruit claim, giving orangecrush town credit for asking to be shot. No thanks. I suspect he and nutella agreed upon a bus, and it isn't hard to find that in her reception of his suspicion on Day 1, and he didn't figure the rest of his team would collapse around him so quickly. So he's tried to prevent that collapse however possible.

I agree, plus Seanzie was the last to push Mac and now he is dead.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:06 pm JJJ: I have a secret way of resolving Gnome, don't worry about her

*Gnome gets poisoned*

HMMM

I'll just claim since Gnome is poisoned.

I'm a "casual lover". I can choose each day to activate my role to become a lover with whoever the other lover is. Eventually Gnome and I found each other in the thread. I had refused to use the role until Night 4 since I am always a kill target and didn't want two town needlessly dead without learning more. Gnome being the lover made it more appealing, since she's deep in the POE. If I had died last night she'd have gone with me, clearing up the slot.

The "benefit" of our lovership is that we become mutual voyeurs the same night we engage in casual love to learn about any abilities targeting one another. That has struck me as mostly weak. We also shared BTSC last night. For what it's worth I think Gnome seemed mostly town-like in there.

I have two ability targets on Gnome from last night, one of which was the poison. I won't reveal the other just yet.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:11 pm ok so I decided to get into this game by reading ISOs and I got about to the point in Alison’s iso where I got desperadoed and I stopped reading so if anyone wants to catch me up pls do

If you feel like it, you could get into things by ISOing the three flipped mafiers for interactions.

Idk how else to catch you up on things. We’ve had lots of success so far and you are confirmed as Not Mafia, so uh go team.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm**

yay go team

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm**

I’ll flip through but tbh my hearts not super in it right now. My initial thought was it’s Jay and he’s going for the mafia post record but that’s based on zero things

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm Mac's been on the wrong side of nearly every dialogue that has come after Day 1. He's made some nice posts here and there, e.g. opposed to Sonny, but he hasn't been there when it's counted. He has defended players for very bad reasons -- buying Owner's fruit claim, giving orangecrush town credit for asking to be shot. No thanks. I suspect he and nutella agreed upon a bus, and it isn't hard to find that in her reception of his suspicion on Day 1, and he didn't figure the rest of his team would collapse around him so quickly. So he's tried to prevent that collapse however possible.

Interesting theory.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:06 pm JJJ: I have a secret way of resolving Gnome, don't worry about her

*Gnome gets poisoned*

HMMM
I'll just claim since Gnome is poisoned.

I'm a "casual lover". I can choose each day to activate my role to become a lover with whoever the other lover is. Eventually Gnome and I found each other in the thread. I had refused to use the role until Night 4 since I am always a kill target and didn't want two town needlessly dead without learning more. Gnome being the lover made it more appealing, since she's deep in the POE. If I had died last night she'd have gone with me, clearing up the slot.

The "benefit" of our lovership is that we become mutual voyeurs the same night we engage in casual love to learn about any abilities targeting one another. That has struck me as mostly weak. We also shared BTSC last night. For what it's worth I think Gnome seemed mostly town-like in there.

I have two ability targets on Gnome from last night, one of which was the poison. I won't reveal the other just yet.

So you’re dead at the end of today too?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm**

Nobody targeted mac last night.

Figured poisoner MO was to go after people on the fringe of the PoE which was kinda right they were a bit more direct than I expected and I guessed wrong, sorry.

And yeah I am trying to get poisoner identity over wolves cuz that's gonna be WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY harder to get if we gotta do it the old fashioned way.

I wanna vote martin today but out of respect for Alison's read I'll try made first.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:06 pm JJJ: I have a secret way of resolving Gnome, don't worry about her

*Gnome gets poisoned*

HMMM
I'll just claim since Gnome is poisoned.

I'm a "casual lover". I can choose each day to activate my role to become a lover with whoever the other lover is. Eventually Gnome and I found each other in the thread. I had refused to use the role until Night 4 since I am always a kill target and didn't want two town needlessly dead without learning more. Gnome being the lover made it more appealing, since she's deep in the POE. If I had died last night she'd have gone with me, clearing up the slot.

The "benefit" of our lovership is that we become mutual voyeurs the same night we engage in casual love to learn about any abilities targeting one another. That has struck me as mostly weak. We also shared BTSC last night. For what it's worth I think Gnome seemed mostly town-like in there.

I have two ability targets on Gnome from last night, one of which was the poison. I won't reveal the other just yet.
So you’re dead at the end of today too?

No. It's only a night thing, and on the same night it's activated. Our casual fling is over.

To be clear it could have happened multiple times, but poison.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm**

I have a thing to say about Mac: when I correctly called him mafia in Fallout, he responded with personal irritation. When I suggested my theory about him and nutella in this game, he responded with personal irritation.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:18 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:06 pm JJJ: I have a secret way of resolving Gnome, don't worry about her

*Gnome gets poisoned*

HMMM
I'll just claim since Gnome is poisoned.

I'm a "casual lover". I can choose each day to activate my role to become a lover with whoever the other lover is. Eventually Gnome and I found each other in the thread. I had refused to use the role until Night 4 since I am always a kill target and didn't want two town needlessly dead without learning more. Gnome being the lover made it more appealing, since she's deep in the POE. If I had died last night she'd have gone with me, clearing up the slot.

The "benefit" of our lovership is that we become mutual voyeurs the same night we engage in casual love to learn about any abilities targeting one another. That has struck me as mostly weak. We also shared BTSC last night. For what it's worth I think Gnome seemed mostly town-like in there.

I have two ability targets on Gnome from last night, one of which was the poison. I won't reveal the other just yet.
So you’re dead at the end of today too?
No. It's only a night thing, and on the same night it's activated. Our casual fling is over.

To be clear it could have happened multiple times, but poison.

I see.
@Garden Gnome do you have anything to add?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:19 pm**

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm**

I believe the casual lovers are both town because it would be a cruel game design decision to force mafia to have a member loverized with an unknown townie.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm**

Mac also tried to tack me to nutella as her "sure teammate" before she ever flipped which is probably TMI.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm**

Allcrab has seemed townie as well.

If I am right about Martin this leaves the POE very small.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:21 pm**

I am marinating the case against Mac in my mind. I will probably share my thoughts on it after he responds to the case.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm I have a thing to say about Mac: when I correctly called him mafia in Fallout, he responded with personal irritation. When I suggested my theory about him and nutella in this game, he responded with personal irritation.

Can you remind me of your nutella/Mac theory?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm**

HI friends, sorry for missing yesterday, i got my start of day/end of days dates twisted. Before I waste my time in iso hell, is Allcrab cleared for any reason? I see they claimed on day 2 and alison didn't buy it, but then they got a red check on owner.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm I believe the casual lovers are both town because it would be a cruel game design decision to force mafia to have a member loverized with an unknown townie.

This is irrelevant, but in an old school RYM game the theme was “vampires”, with the mafia team comprised of famous vampire characters and the town as humans.
I was Edward, my lover was Bella. We were not the same alignment. Bella figured this out in exactly two seconds. It was indeed cruel game design.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm HI friends, sorry for missing yesterday, i got my start of day/end of days dates twisted. Before I waste my time in iso hell, is Allcrab cleared for any reason? I see they claimed on day 2 and alison didn't buy it, but then they got a red check on owner.

Why do you ask?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm HI friends, sorry for missing yesterday, i got my start of day/end of days dates twisted. Before I waste my time in iso hell, is Allcrab cleared for any reason? I see they claimed on day 2 and alison didn't buy it, but then they got a red check on owner.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm**

I can entertain suspicion of Guillotine too, and I think in a Made-town world Mac/Guillotine is actually a believable pair. But he's not my first guess.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm**

I think a combination of the POE size and the dynamics of it suggests that there is one mafia between Guillo and Mac.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:24 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm I have a thing to say about Mac: when I correctly called him mafia in Fallout, he responded with personal irritation. When I suggested my theory about him and nutella in this game, he responded with personal irritation.
Can you remind me of your nutella/Mac theory?

The thing about Mac presenting a certain image of mafia nutella so that he could appear better in relation to her.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:24 pm**

Guilo voting Mac now but not before (where he soon switched to push on Seanzie after the post below)

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 6:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 4:36 pm [VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine
You are outing, you more than anyone know that this is not scum me. So remove your very opportunistic vote RIGHT NOW MAC!

rubs me as awkward and suspicious

in fact despite voting JJJ, Me, Alison, and Act he never voted Mac yesterday

I wonder if Gulio is not-town at the very least and suspects Mac as well

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:25 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm HI friends, sorry for missing yesterday, i got my start of day/end of days dates twisted. Before I waste my time in iso hell, is Allcrab cleared for any reason? I see they claimed on day 2 and alison didn't buy it, but then they got a red check on owner.
Why do you ask?

cuz you embarresed me yesterday, and I'm trying not to spend all my time in thread reading cleared folk :P

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:25 pm**

Guillo we can leave unless another mason actually claims otherwise we just lynch them for lying about their role 6 times on the span of 5 minutes.

Mac is a maybe but he's be bussing real hard this game to be a wolf so not my go to atm.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:26 pm**

What if Guillo/Mac is 3P and Mafia and they each realized they are fucked but the other is evil so they are trying to rack up towncred by leading a crusade against the other person?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm I can entertain suspicion of Guillotine too, and I think in a Made-town world Mac/Guillotine is actually a believable pair. But he's not my first guess.

I can work with this

I'm on the case Jay

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:27 pm**

To be honest Made seems to be mafia in all worlds anyway and his posting has been really bad so I might just vote him as the highest % exe.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:27 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm HI friends, sorry for missing yesterday, i got my start of day/end of days dates twisted. Before I waste my time in iso hell, is Allcrab cleared for any reason? I see they claimed on day 2 and alison didn't buy it, but then they got a red check on owner.
Why do you ask?
cuz you embarresed me yesterday, and I'm trying not to spend all my time in thread reading cleared folk :P

Lol.

I am cleared because I desperado’d orangecrush yesterday.
TangyStarkPrime is still clear for being desperado’d on Day 2.
We can now possibly treat Jay/Garden Gnome as pseudo-cleared because of Gnome’s poisoning and Jay’s claim. It Gnome flips as something other than what Jay has claimed for her, that changes. But I think the likelihood of that happening is zilch.

Other than that we have no mechanically cleared players.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:29 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:26 pm What if Guillo/Mac is 3P and Mafia and they each realized they are fucked but the other is evil so they are trying to rack up towncred by leading a crusade against the other person?

I am willing to entertain the notion even independent of theory just given the players remaining. Could be.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:31 pm**

Nanook and lost monkey are the living players I have given the least thought to in this game.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm**

Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:35 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.

I take it not much came of them?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:37 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:03 pm Gnomeypoo

Gnome feels sick, but she feels loved.
You were the target of one action during the night.
You were vote manipulated.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:37 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:35 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.
I take it not much came of them?

N1 was useful, N2 i blocked sloonei and N4 tried protecting you.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:40 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:37 pm
Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:35 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.
I take it not much came of them?
N1 was useful, N2 i blocked sloonei and N4 tried protecting you.

Why o_0

Like appreciate it sure but ain't no wolves gonna be shooting me when we got Jay, Tony, and Sloonei still alive lol. I'll be honest my role kinda doesn't do shit atp considering the only cafe people left are you, guillo and myself.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:40 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.

Could you, like, elaborate on the "possibility"?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:41 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm I believe the casual lovers are both town because it would be a cruel game design decision to force mafia to have a member loverized with an unknown townie.

Probably not particularly reasonable

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:06 pm JJJ: I have a secret way of resolving Gnome, don't worry about her

*Gnome gets poisoned*

HMMM
I'll just claim since Gnome is poisoned.

I'm a "casual lover". I can choose each day to activate my role to become a lover with whoever the other lover is. Eventually Gnome and I found each other in the thread. I had refused to use the role until Night 4 since I am always a kill target and didn't want two town needlessly dead without learning more. Gnome being the lover made it more appealing, since she's deep in the POE. If I had died last night she'd have gone with me, clearing up the slot.

The "benefit" of our lovership is that we become mutual voyeurs the same night we engage in casual love to learn about any abilities targeting one another. That has struck me as mostly weak. We also shared BTSC last night. For what it's worth I think Gnome seemed mostly town-like in there.

I have two ability targets on Gnome from last night, one of which was the poison. I won't reveal the other just yet.
So you’re dead at the end of today too?
No. It's only a night thing, and on the same night it's activated. Our casual fling is over.

To be clear it could have happened multiple times, but poison.
I see.
@Garden Gnome do you have anything to add?

Yes. JJJ was vote manipulated.
I don't know what that means.
But I think that JJJ's votes will be wonky today.
Do not pay attention to the votes...

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:44 pm**

Ok but it would be nice if someone could like fax me a copy of the POE

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:44 pm**

Actually im thinking that maybe Seanzie was killed to frame Mac.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:44 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.

No dizzy’s the joat!

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:44 pm**

Jay if that’s true but you don’t know why just don’t vote today

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:45 pm**

Hard claim JOAT

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