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Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:57 pm
by DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:I did not.

Why do you see it as bogus?
It was extremely specific in nature. It took one basic question and turned it into a nuanced mafia strategy to identify the protective role.
DrWilgy wrote:Thought it would help you + I'm here currently. Who is your top pick for sk?
Could be anyone. My focus has been on mafia. I wouldn't expect it to be someone who has taken a severe stance against confirmed mafia like Rico, because that begs for a nightkill (assuming the *secrets* portion of the SK role doesn't include bulletproof or something OP like that).
DrWilgy wrote:Fuzz never lives this long so idk.
What do you think then of the theory I have proposed as being the motivator for those questions he's asked?
How so? Also, calling a single point on a case "specific in nature" is odd. The only reason why it was specific is because you specified it out from the rest of my interaction with Chou. Also, referring to the question as a basic one is also flawed. Even Matt F noticed the question and pointed out that it was scummy.

Would you be willing to vote for Rico then?

As far as I'm concerned his question style is the same as always. Whenever Fuzz is alive, his questions are similar to as they are now.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:22 pm
by Tangrowth
Guess what? It's that time again!

Love for Sale is accepting offers for its Day 11 vote! PM the hosts!

Apologies for failing to announce this (again) at start of Night 10.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:23 pm
by Tangrowth
Also, I will discuss potential extension of Day 11 with Sloonei and get back to you folks later.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:34 pm
by Tangrowth
Also, just 549 more posts and this game becomes the mafia game on The Syndicate with the most posts.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:36 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy wrote:How so? Also, calling a single point on a case "specific in nature" is odd. The only reason why it was specific is because you specified it out from the rest of my interaction with Chou. Also, referring to the question as a basic one is also flawed. Even Matt F noticed the question and pointed out that it was scummy.
Would you be willing to vote for Rico then?

As far as I'm concerned his question style is the same as always. Whenever Fuzz is alive, his questions are similar to as they are now.[/quote]

It's not specific because I pulled it from your case, it's specific because you attached a single night kill to a single other player based upon what I consider a dubious premise.

I said I don't think Rico is likely to be the serial killer. I am also not especially interested in lynching the serial killer immediately because I think the mafia remain the bigger problem -- unless someone can produce a truly conclusive case and not highly speculative theorizing.

Please give me a GTH read on Fuzz.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:37 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
EBWOP quote repair.
DrWilgy wrote:How so? Also, calling a single point on a case "specific in nature" is odd. The only reason why it was specific is because you specified it out from the rest of my interaction with Chou. Also, referring to the question as a basic one is also flawed. Even Matt F noticed the question and pointed out that it was scummy.

Would you be willing to vote for Rico then?

As far as I'm concerned his question style is the same as always. Whenever Fuzz is alive, his questions are similar to as they are now.
It's not specific because I pulled it from your case, it's specific because you attached a single night kill to a single other player based upon what I consider a dubious premise.

I said I don't think Rico is likely to be the serial killer. I am also not especially interested in lynching the serial killer immediately because I think the mafia remain the bigger problem -- unless someone can produce a truly conclusive case and not highly speculative theorizing.

Please give me a GTH read on Fuzz.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:38 pm
by Ricochet
MovingPictures07 wrote:Guess what? It's that time again!

Love for Sale is accepting offers for its Day 11 vote! PM the hosts!

Apologies for failing to announce this (again) at start of Night 10.
Oh, cool, I was already starting to count him as dead in the Night 9 massacre. :puppy:

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:41 pm
by RadicalFuzz
No. I'm not accusing you of doing something stupid, I'm accusing you of doing something rather brilliant. Of course people's reads can change, but that is definitely not going to stop any mafia player from trying to get a good read on how to maneuver the kills and lynches to give themselves the best chance when LyLo arrives. The questions you've been asking appear to stem from the void, and they make it seem like you're actively working to better understand players by asking them read-relevant questions. From there comes the wave of town reads on RadicalFuzz that you've claimed to loathe.

This would not be an illogical strategy. This is not a backwards strategy. It is literally not an accusation I've ever made before -- you're the first. You're going to have to tell me exactly what you really had to gain from those questions or I'm going to have no reason to change my mind
I'm going to answer, but I want to say something before that. Keep an open mind. You have so far, and I'm not trying to insinuate otherwise, but I've seen a lot of players go down the road of "This would be smart for X to do as Mafia, wouldn't it? Therefore it must be what's happening and I have to stop it!"

List of my LyLo questions you had a bit ago, with my reasons in yellow:
Spoiler: show
J3, gun to your head LYLO, would you lynch me or motel room?
I wanted to verify the extent of your townread on me and assess your opinion of a player I hadn't been paying attention to
Sorry about that earlier J3, I forgot to add the actual statement. If you had to be stranded on the moon with three people from this game, which three would you take to avoid getting stabbed in the back?
This was to measure who you townread the strongest. As I said afterwards, I expected your strongest reads to be first by virtue of most likely logical thought process
J3 I'm aware you're out at the moment, but I want your opinion on something.
Ignoring the possibility of being lynched, what night phase do you think Wilgy will get killed?
Thanks for the clarification Bullzeye.
I wanted your opinion on Wilgy. A response of "he won't" or very far from now would mean you think he's scum, and similarly if you thought he was massively town you would say he would be killed very quickly
The reversed question also applies to Wilgy. Ignoring the possibility of J3 being lynched, what night phase do you think he will get killed?
Same as above
Wilgy, if you had to vote between J3 and Rico, gun to your head LYLO, who would you choose?
Curious on his opinion on those two players. I know where I stand on you but
J3, weird question, but could you tell me your cleanest 3 players? Excluding yourself, of course.

Same question as the "stranded" question directed at you earlier. Wanted your updated opinion on your townreads

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:41 pm
by RadicalFuzz
Oh god that was a horrible color. Fixing now.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:42 pm
by RadicalFuzz
No. I'm not accusing you of doing something stupid, I'm accusing you of doing something rather brilliant. Of course people's reads can change, but that is definitely not going to stop any mafia player from trying to get a good read on how to maneuver the kills and lynches to give themselves the best chance when LyLo arrives. The questions you've been asking appear to stem from the void, and they make it seem like you're actively working to better understand players by asking them read-relevant questions. From there comes the wave of town reads on RadicalFuzz that you've claimed to loathe.

This would not be an illogical strategy. This is not a backwards strategy. It is literally not an accusation I've ever made before -- you're the first. You're going to have to tell me exactly what you really had to gain from those questions or I'm going to have no reason to change my mind
I'm going to answer, but I want to say something before that. Keep an open mind. You have so far, and I'm not trying to insinuate otherwise, but I've seen a lot of players go down the road of "This would be smart for X to do as Mafia, wouldn't it? Therefore it must be what's happening and I have to stop it!"

List of my LyLo questions you had a bit ago, with my reasons in red:
Spoiler: show
J3, gun to your head LYLO, would you lynch me or motel room?
I wanted to verify the extent of your townread on me and assess your opinion of a player I hadn't been paying attention to
Sorry about that earlier J3, I forgot to add the actual statement. If you had to be stranded on the moon with three people from this game, which three would you take to avoid getting stabbed in the back?
This was to measure who you townread the strongest. As I said afterwards, I expected your strongest reads to be first by virtue of most likely logical thought process
J3 I'm aware you're out at the moment, but I want your opinion on something.
Ignoring the possibility of being lynched, what night phase do you think Wilgy will get killed?
Thanks for the clarification Bullzeye.
I wanted your opinion on Wilgy. A response of "he won't" or very far from now would mean you think he's scum, and similarly if you thought he was massively town you would say he would be killed very quickly
The reversed question also applies to Wilgy. Ignoring the possibility of J3 being lynched, what night phase do you think he will get killed?
Same as above
Wilgy, if you had to vote between J3 and Rico, gun to your head LYLO, who would you choose?
Curious on his opinion on those two players. I know where I stand on you but
J3, weird question, but could you tell me your cleanest 3 players? Excluding yourself, of course.

Same question as the "stranded" question directed at you earlier. Wanted your updated opinion on your townreads

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:44 pm
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bullzeye being mafia is not supported by Epignosis's theory, for what it's worth
Of the living players implicated by that theory, who do you lean toward?
Jay, same question to you.

Same to everyone else.

If Epignosis's theory is correct that the PSK missed the Night 5 kill because of inactivity, which player do you think is most likely to be the PSK based on players who did not post that night.

The candidates are bcornett (NK'd by mafia last night), Diiny, DrWilgy, and motel room.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:45 pm
by DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:EBWOP quote repair.
DrWilgy wrote:How so? Also, calling a single point on a case "specific in nature" is odd. The only reason why it was specific is because you specified it out from the rest of my interaction with Chou. Also, referring to the question as a basic one is also flawed. Even Matt F noticed the question and pointed out that it was scummy.

Would you be willing to vote for Rico then?

As far as I'm concerned his question style is the same as always. Whenever Fuzz is alive, his questions are similar to as they are now.
It's not specific because I pulled it from your case, it's specific because you attached a single night kill to a single other player based upon what I consider a dubious premise.

I said I don't think Rico is likely to be the serial killer. I am also not especially interested in lynching the serial killer immediately because I think the mafia remain the bigger problem -- unless someone can produce a truly conclusive case and not highly speculative theorizing.

Please give me a GTH read on Fuzz.
And that attachment is a bad thing? When I gave Choutas many chances to comment on bcornett? When in one of my questions to Choutas that he responded to, I mentioned bcornett and he stated nothing?

JJJ plz

GTH Fuzz is civvie

GTH, who is the SK? Don't dance around it as if you have no idea.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bullzeye being mafia is not supported by Epignosis's theory, for what it's worth
Of the living players implicated by that theory, who do you lean toward?
Jay, same question to you.

Same to everyone else.

If Epignosis's theory is correct that the PSK missed the Night 5 kill because of inactivity, which player do you think is most likely to be the PSK based on players who did not post that night.

The candidates are bcornett (NK'd by mafia last night), Diiny, DrWilgy, and motel room.
If the theory is accurate, then Diiny. Apart from his pseudo-aggressive Day 1 I think he has mostly been non-threatening and willing to follow the trails carved by other players instead of carving his own.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:47 pm
by Ricochet
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bullzeye being mafia is not supported by Epignosis's theory, for what it's worth
Of the living players implicated by that theory, who do you lean toward?
Jay, same question to you.

Same to everyone else.

If Epignosis's theory is correct that the PSK missed the Night 5 kill because of inactivity, which player do you think is most likely to be the PSK based on players who did not post that night.

The candidates are bcornett (NK'd by mafia last night), Diiny, DrWilgy, and motel room.
Diiny or Wilgy. Diiny's extended miss (N5 and D6 - didn't he technically step outside the 72-hour mark, btw?) would make me lean on him, then again why would an SK miss on his near lynch, especially as part of a counterwagon to save someone else. This detail makes me lean on Wilgy, instead.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:49 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy wrote:And that attachment is a bad thing? When I gave Choutas many chances to comment on bcornett? When in one of my questions to Choutas that he responded to, I mentioned bcornett and he stated nothing?

JJJ plz
I think it could be interpreted as bad. Hence my interrogation. You also hounded bcornett himself with questions all game long and gave him crap for missing them and that could be viewed in the same light.
DrWilgy wrote:GTH, who is the SK? Don't dance around it as if you have no idea.
Why do you think I have any idea? I don't.

I've offered an explanation for Bullzeye as the SK, and just now Diiny too. Hunting the SK has not been a big component of my mindset at any point in this game because the mafia have been enjoying the lead for a long while.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:50 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Ricochet wrote:Diiny or Wilgy. Diiny's extended miss (N5 and D6 - didn't he technically step outside the 72-hour mark, btw?) would make me lean on him, then again why would an SK miss on his near lynch, especially as part of a counterwagon to save someone else. This detail makes me lean on Wilgy, instead.
If a guy isn't here then he isn't here -- whether he's about to be lynched or not.

Re: [DAY 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:51 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Someone please contest me, because my confidence level is increasing:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think your final two or three mafia are in this group:

RadicalFuzz
Bullzeye
Russtifinko
DrWilgy*
Diiny*

*darkhorse picks

Re: [DAY 6] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:54 pm
by Marmot
MacDougall wrote:Because he is obvscum. Bullzeye is scum. Fuzz is scum. Look to the throwaway votes imo.
Look where your top 2 scumreads sit, Jay.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:54 pm
by Ricochet
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Diiny or Wilgy. Diiny's extended miss (N5 and D6 - didn't he technically step outside the 72-hour mark, btw?) would make me lean on him, then again why would an SK miss on his near lynch, especially as part of a counterwagon to save someone else. This detail makes me lean on Wilgy, instead.
If a guy isn't here then he isn't here -- whether he's about to be lynched or not.
I don't remember the specifics of Diiny's absence being total lack of reach to play or observe the game anymore, so I can't take it at face value that he was gone and that's that, unless he can come and clarify.

If, on the other hand, he had even the slightest means to at least check on the situation, why would a SK Diiny not express any gesture towards almost getting killed, in a feud totally not involving him, but whether another play is civ or mafia? It'd be an "oh no I might get clipped, how about I keep doing nothing" nonsensical approach to surviving this game as the SK.

Re: [DAY 6] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:56 pm
by Ricochet
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Because he is obvscum. Bullzeye is scum. Fuzz is scum. Look to the throwaway votes imo.
Look where your top 2 scumreads sit, Jay.
I remember Mac doing with Fuzz a "ur cum... nah just messing with ya, ur town, Wilgy is cum" thingy.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:59 pm
by DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:And that attachment is a bad thing? When I gave Choutas many chances to comment on bcornett? When in one of my questions to Choutas that he responded to, I mentioned bcornett and he stated nothing?

JJJ plz
I think it could be interpreted as bad. Hence my interrogation. You also hounded bcornett himself with questions all game long and gave him crap for missing them and that could be viewed in the same light.
DrWilgy wrote:GTH, who is the SK? Don't dance around it as if you have no idea.
Why do you think I have any idea? I don't.

I've offered an explanation for Bullzeye as the SK, and just now Diiny too. Hunting the SK has not been a big component of my mindset at any point in this game because the mafia have been enjoying the lead for a long while.
In regards to the Bcornett hounding vs Chou hounding, Choutas reacted and responded to my questions, but for some reason didn't touch the name bcornett, even though he had quoted my question with his name in it. Bcornett seemed to have no reaction to my questions, until he went back and found them, where he did responded fully and understandably.

JJJ, how are you so sure mafia are in the lead? :eye:

I'm heading out for awhile shortly. Probably won't respond to anything in awhile.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:01 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy wrote:JJJ, how are you so sure mafia are in the lead? :eye:
I am not *sure*, but it's a strong hunch given the names that the SK has removed from the game. I don't think any of them were mafia except maybe HamburgerBoy, and I'm not going to gamble the game on that possibility.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:01 pm
by RadicalFuzz
J3, does my response satisfy you? What did you expect Wilgy to say, also, to that GTH, that the player he intentionally saved from a lynch is scum?

Re: [DAY 6] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:02 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Because he is obvscum. Bullzeye is scum. Fuzz is scum. Look to the throwaway votes imo.
Look where your top 2 scumreads sit, Jay.
Mac loves his WIFOM. It' all over his ISO. What do you think this says about those two?

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
RadicalFuzz wrote:J3, does my response satisfy you?
I'm mulling it over. The one hitch in my theory is that you asked Doc when I would be killed -- this question wouldn't be necessary if you're doing what I've proposed you might be doing.
RadicalFuzz wrote:What did you expect Wilgy to say, also, to that GTH, that the player he intentionally saved from a lynch is scum?
I figured he'd say you're town. I'm just trying to get more out of him about you, because he seems to be relying entirely on meta to read you and that troubles me. He isn't digging very deep into the matter of RadicalFuzz.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:05 pm
by DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:JJJ, how are you so sure mafia are in the lead? :eye:
I am not *sure*, but it's a strong hunch given the names that the SK has removed from the game. I don't think any of them were mafia except maybe HamburgerBoy, and I'm not going to gamble the game on that possibility.
Ok then, according to your hunch, how long have the mafia had a lead according to your "long while?"

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:JJJ, how are you so sure mafia are in the lead? :eye:
I am not *sure*, but it's a strong hunch given the names that the SK has removed from the game. I don't think any of them were mafia except maybe HamburgerBoy, and I'm not going to gamble the game on that possibility.
Ok then, according to your hunch, how long have the mafia had a lead according to your "long while?"
Since the 3-peat of town lynches that followed the LC lynch. The scales did probably even some when Mac, BR, and Floyd dropped in decently quick succession, but that was a short-lived thing since we've collectively blown the last two lynches.

Re: [DAY 6] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:08 pm
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Because he is obvscum. Bullzeye is scum. Fuzz is scum. Look to the throwaway votes imo.
Look where your top 2 scumreads sit, Jay.
Mac loves his WIFOM. It' all over his ISO. What do you think this says about those two?
I feel the same way. But as Ricochet pointed out, MacDougall immediately reversed his opinion of Fuzz, calling Wilgy scum and Fuzz town. Fuzz then pushed for a CFD of Wilgy.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:08 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Ricochet wrote:If, on the other hand, he had even the slightest means to at least check on the situation, why would a SK Diiny not express any gesture towards almost getting killed, in a feud totally not involving him, but whether another play is civ or mafia? It'd be an "oh no I might get clipped, how about I keep doing nothing" nonsensical approach to surviving this game as the SK.
I think "do nothing" is a strategy that doesn't make sense for any alignment. That's why I don't think he was employing that strategy.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:10 pm
by Ricochet
Oh, I forgot to mention, but I don't do Halloween, because the concept importing such holidays and partying like it means something usually annoys me. I don't even watch many horrors.

A Day extension would solve Sunday being a deadline for me (although if the deadline will be 7 EDT, it'll be manageable), otherwise I don't have any real preference.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:11 pm
by Ricochet
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:If, on the other hand, he had even the slightest means to at least check on the situation, why would a SK Diiny not express any gesture towards almost getting killed, in a feud totally not involving him, but whether another play is civ or mafia? It'd be an "oh no I might get clipped, how about I keep doing nothing" nonsensical approach to surviving this game as the SK.
I think "do nothing" is a strategy that doesn't make sense for any alignment. That's why I don't think he was employing that strategy.
Yet... Diiny is your SK choice?

Bit confused here.

Re: [DAY 6] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:12 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Because he is obvscum. Bullzeye is scum. Fuzz is scum. Look to the throwaway votes imo.
Look where your top 2 scumreads sit, Jay.
Mac loves his WIFOM. It' all over his ISO. What do you think this says about those two?
I feel the same way. But as Ricochet pointed out, MacDougall immediately reversed his opinion of Fuzz, calling Wilgy scum and Fuzz town. Fuzz then pushed for a CFD of Wilgy.
I think that Mac post is good evidence that one of them is scum, but not necessarily both. Bullzeye's feeble combat last day phase makes me lean in his direction. I mentioned in my motel room spew review that I have a tinfoil theory that Mac "tried" to build a counterwagon on DrWilgy instead of Diiny on Day 6, knowing full well that it would never stick because not enough people had beefed with Doc. That tinfoil could be expanded to include Fuzz.

I don't normally tinfoil, but when I do I'm 1955 Doc Brown. ;)

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:13 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:If, on the other hand, he had even the slightest means to at least check on the situation, why would a SK Diiny not express any gesture towards almost getting killed, in a feud totally not involving him, but whether another play is civ or mafia? It'd be an "oh no I might get clipped, how about I keep doing nothing" nonsensical approach to surviving this game as the SK.
I think "do nothing" is a strategy that doesn't make sense for any alignment. That's why I don't think he was employing that strategy.
Yet... Diiny is your SK choice?

Bit confused here.
That's my point. I don't think Diiny deliberately allowed his near-lynch to happen without interference because he'd never do that as any alignment -- town, mafia, or SK. I think he was literally not available to influence the ordeal at all.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:15 pm
by Tangrowth
So is anyone here dressing up as David Byrne for Halloween?

If so and you get a pic into the thread tomorrow, you automatically win the game. /maybe

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:19 pm
by Ricochet
MovingPictures07 wrote:So is anyone here dressing up as David Byrne for Halloween?

If so and you get a pic into the thread tomorrow, you automatically win the game. /maybe
I don't have clothes that grey, nor too big of a size.

Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:20 pm
by Marmot
Jay, I'll entertain your notion that RadicalFuzz and Bullzeye are mafia. I noticed this post from RadicalFuzz on Night 5.
RadicalFuzz wrote:Bullzeye, if you're still here, how have my posts in the last hour changed your opinion of me? Feel free to do a simple before and after analysis instead of a short answer. I'll read it.
Fuzz asks Bullzeye to analyze Fuzz's recent posts and explain why his opinion has changed. Looking at Bullzeye's posts, he did not mention any change in heart on RadicalFuzz, or any read of Fuzz at all. Here is Bullzeye's response.
Bullzeye wrote:I don't know that they've had any impact at all to be honest. I've never suspected you regardless. I actually have a fairly good vibe about you, I think you've been making good efforts to get involved and find baddies. I might not always think you're right, but as of now I haven't seen a reason to think you're bad yet.
Link to the start of the conversation. RadicalFuzz is forcing Bullzeye to take a stance on him, and Bullzeye does. But RadicalFuzz's approach to Bullzeye isn't consistent with what was stated before.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:21 pm
by Tangrowth
Ricochet wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So is anyone here dressing up as David Byrne for Halloween?

If so and you get a pic into the thread tomorrow, you automatically win the game. /maybe
I don't have clothes that grey, nor too big of a size.
Someday I'm making this happen.

And I will pass out candy with the Psycho Killer tape from Stop Making Sense playing in the background.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:23 pm
by Marmot
MovingPictures07 wrote:So is anyone here dressing up as David Byrne for Halloween?

If so and you get a pic into the thread tomorrow, you automatically win the game. /maybe
What if I can get you to dance like this? :P

Image

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:24 pm
by Tangrowth
Auto-win, MM.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:24 pm
by Tangrowth
Sloonei and I have decided to extend Day 11 to 72 hours instead of 48 hours.

Night 10 will still end at 7:53PM Eastern tonight. Get your PMs in by then at the latest.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:26 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MovingPictures07 wrote:Sloonei and I have decided to extend Day 11 to 72 hours instead of 48 hours.

Night 10 will still end at 7:53PM Eastern tonight. Get your PMs in by then at the latest.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:28 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Jay, I'll entertain your notion that RadicalFuzz and Bullzeye are mafia. I noticed this post from RadicalFuzz on Night 5.
RadicalFuzz wrote:Bullzeye, if you're still here, how have my posts in the last hour changed your opinion of me? Feel free to do a simple before and after analysis instead of a short answer. I'll read it.
Fuzz asks Bullzeye to analyze Fuzz's recent posts and explain why his opinion has changed. Looking at Bullzeye's posts, he did not mention any change in heart on RadicalFuzz, or any read of Fuzz at all. Here is Bullzeye's response.
Bullzeye wrote:I don't know that they've had any impact at all to be honest. I've never suspected you regardless. I actually have a fairly good vibe about you, I think you've been making good efforts to get involved and find baddies. I might not always think you're right, but as of now I haven't seen a reason to think you're bad yet.
Link to the start of the conversation. RadicalFuzz is forcing Bullzeye to take a stance on him, and Bullzeye does. But RadicalFuzz's approach to Bullzeye isn't consistent with what was stated before.
I'll leave Fuzzy Bear to answer to your assertion. When I view that exchange I see more of the investigative town-looks that have made me doubt my read on Fuzz and more of the easy responsiveness from Bullzeye. It's not a mafia-incompatible interaction though -- it's a softball conversation. I'm also reminded of Bullzeye shouting at Matt F for asking him questions that required info dumping. :p

Of the two, which do you find more suspicious MM?

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:29 pm
by Ricochet
OY. No more MM winning games for dancing! :meany:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So is anyone here dressing up as David Byrne for Halloween?

If so and you get a pic into the thread tomorrow, you automatically win the game. /maybe
I don't have clothes that grey, nor too big of a size.
Someday I'm making this happen.

And I will pass out candy with the Psycho Killer tape from Stop Making Sense playing in the background.
Yeah, I liked that version, especially the whole tape thing.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Everybody: can you share your tinfoil reads?

If you're not sure what I mean by that, I mean pick the player who you're most concerned is mafia because he will be a very difficult lynch and/or is a consensus town read?

For me: Ricochet.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:34 pm
by Ricochet
Tinfoil reads means for me to read someone in a total bad light, regardless how unrealistic it may come off as.

But for your version:

JaggedJimmyJay, lol.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:35 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I'd just like to thank the hosts for not including resurrection in this game (unless it just hasn't been seen yet). I hate resurrection in Mafia. :P

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:37 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd just like to thank the hosts for not including resurrection in this game (unless it just hasn't been seen yet). I hate resurrection in Mafia. :P
Host Announcement:

MacDougall has been resurrected.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Thoughts, Rico?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:That's my point. I don't think Diiny deliberately allowed his near-lynch to happen without interference because he'd never do that as any alignment -- town, mafia, or SK. I think he was literally not available to influence the ordeal at all.

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:38 pm
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everybody: can you share your tinfoil reads?

If you're not sure what I mean by that, I mean pick the player who you're most concerned is mafia because he will be a very difficult lynch and/or is a consensus town read?

For me: Ricochet.
Jay.

So many reasons to trust you, but significant reasons to not trust you.

To be honest, if it came down to three players in LyLo, you, me, and anybody else (even Ricochet), I would almost undoubtedly vote for you.

Linki: sonofabitch

Re: [NIGHT 10] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:39 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MovingPictures07 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd just like to thank the hosts for not including resurrection in this game (unless it just hasn't been seen yet). I hate resurrection in Mafia. :P
Host Announcement:

MacDougall has been resurrected.
:eek: :evileye: :disappoint: :mad: :( :puppy: :scared: :fist: