Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:05 am
Oh...
Where'd you move to?
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Oh...
Schia either gets purged or is first yeet post purge.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:13 am [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
Falcon wagon is noice, but all of Nutella/Jack/Ilario have been assumed to be players today from what I can see, so if at least one is mechanically forced to be an NPC, then I once-again return to the “Schia is playing like they’re a player and they’re doing literally nothing to actually play the game and that makes them mafia” now that there’s more basis for them to be so
Pretty much everybody else who was minposting was actually providing content in their minimal messages and have since stepped it up. The only person who’s doing as little as Schia is Rico, but even Rico has been consistently themed in their posts, whereas Schia is just “let’s go the whole day without posting and then post my 5 posts at EoD”
Agreed. if @Schiavetto does not play today, they are turbo'd post-purge if they're still alive.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:58 amSchia either gets purged or is first yeet post purge.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:13 am [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
Falcon wagon is noice, but all of Nutella/Jack/Ilario have been assumed to be players today from what I can see, so if at least one is mechanically forced to be an NPC, then I once-again return to the “Schia is playing like they’re a player and they’re doing literally nothing to actually play the game and that makes them mafia” now that there’s more basis for them to be so
Pretty much everybody else who was minposting was actually providing content in their minimal messages and have since stepped it up. The only person who’s doing as little as Schia is Rico, but even Rico has been consistently themed in their posts, whereas Schia is just “let’s go the whole day without posting and then post my 5 posts at EoD”
You don't have to, it's what implied from Hally's theory that I took out a loud voice against me (santy), and kept a shield voice (you) alive.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:58 amIt makes him less likely to die by NK, refuting your rebuttal to Hally.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:51 amDoes that make him towny or wolfy?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:48 amJack didn't push Vivax.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:37 amNo, Maf falcon wouldn't have killed either of them.
Plus, jack was pushing me harder than Santy, and still is today, so this logic doesn't even work within this theory.
Why is that?
I'll say this, from what I've seen? Jack's reads are pretty static, and don't seem to move much.
That's wolfy IMO.
Also, under the assumption I'm Maf and take out loud voices against my slot, why santy over more vocal/persistent Jack? Santy was first sheeping Jack's read on me IIRC
I don't agree with that assumption.
The Santy kill makes sense and makes more sense in a wolf!Falcon world. A Jack kill doesn't make sense. You saying something akin to "Why wasn't Jack killed if I'm mafia" holds little weight when a Jack kill doesn't make sense regardless of who is mafia.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:20 amYou don't have to, it's what implied from Hally's theory that I took out a loud voice against me (santy), and kept a shield voice (you) alive.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:58 amIt makes him less likely to die by NK, refuting your rebuttal to Hally.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:51 amDoes that make him towny or wolfy?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:48 amJack didn't push Vivax.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:37 amNo, Maf falcon wouldn't have killed either of them.
Plus, jack was pushing me harder than Santy, and still is today, so this logic doesn't even work within this theory.
Why is that?
I'll say this, from what I've seen? Jack's reads are pretty static, and don't seem to move much.
That's wolfy IMO.
Also, under the assumption I'm Maf and take out loud voices against my slot, why santy over more vocal/persistent Jack? Santy was first sheeping Jack's read on me IIRC
I don't agree with that assumption.
Vivax isn't even mentioned in Hally's theorem, so I'm not even sure why that was brough into play?
Oh wait, I voted santy.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
The Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
Since I am town, #2 & #4 seem equally likely at this pointSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:43 amThe Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
I also looked good after a Vivax flip, so the fact that they killed Santy over me is likely for one or more of the following reasons:
1.) Falcon is wolf - I protected Falcon, Santy pushed Falcon.
2.) Wolves aren't sure about my claim or if I am even a player. Good. Let them wifom.
3.) Santy has been a pain in their arses for longer than I have - this also kind of points to "Falcon is wolf" since Santy's next suspect after Vivax is Falcon, but maybe I should look through Santy and see who they were bothering earlier in the game.
4.) Seanzie is a wolf and snowing y'all.
Ilario and Pyxxy are pretty solid wolf reads.
But I've only been CC'd once.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmSince I am town, #2 & #4 seem equally likely at this pointSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:43 amThe Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
I also looked good after a Vivax flip, so the fact that they killed Santy over me is likely for one or more of the following reasons:
1.) Falcon is wolf - I protected Falcon, Santy pushed Falcon.
2.) Wolves aren't sure about my claim or if I am even a player. Good. Let them wifom.
3.) Santy has been a pain in their arses for longer than I have - this also kind of points to "Falcon is wolf" since Santy's next suspect after Vivax is Falcon, but maybe I should look through Santy and see who they were bothering earlier in the game.
4.) Seanzie is a wolf and snowing y'all.
And before you say "But Vivax, my town cred!"...well, I think you know my opinion about wolves & their teammate's
Ilario is not wolf.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmIlario and Pyxxy are pretty solid wolf reads.
I need to ISO Neon and gauge how I feel following Vivax's flip but haven't gotten there yet.
Your EoD and response following was off, but I think I still tr you. I think you are in a place where "If I'm wrong about everything else" it's Hally.
Oh, well then you must be Maf, 100%Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pmBut I've only been CC'd once.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmSince I am town, #2 & #4 seem equally likely at this pointSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:43 amThe Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
I also looked good after a Vivax flip, so the fact that they killed Santy over me is likely for one or more of the following reasons:
1.) Falcon is wolf - I protected Falcon, Santy pushed Falcon.
2.) Wolves aren't sure about my claim or if I am even a player. Good. Let them wifom.
3.) Santy has been a pain in their arses for longer than I have - this also kind of points to "Falcon is wolf" since Santy's next suspect after Vivax is Falcon, but maybe I should look through Santy and see who they were bothering earlier in the game.
4.) Seanzie is a wolf and snowing y'all.
And before you say "But Vivax, my town cred!"...well, I think you know my opinion about wolves & their teammate's
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:51 pmOh, well then you must be Maf, 100%Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pmBut I've only been CC'd once.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmSince I am town, #2 & #4 seem equally likely at this pointSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:43 amThe Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
I also looked good after a Vivax flip, so the fact that they killed Santy over me is likely for one or more of the following reasons:
1.) Falcon is wolf - I protected Falcon, Santy pushed Falcon.
2.) Wolves aren't sure about my claim or if I am even a player. Good. Let them wifom.
3.) Santy has been a pain in their arses for longer than I have - this also kind of points to "Falcon is wolf" since Santy's next suspect after Vivax is Falcon, but maybe I should look through Santy and see who they were bothering earlier in the game.
4.) Seanzie is a wolf and snowing y'all.
And before you say "But Vivax, my town cred!"...well, I think you know my opinion about wolves & their teammate's
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Why?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:51 pmIlario is not wolf.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmIlario and Pyxxy are pretty solid wolf reads.
I need to ISO Neon and gauge how I feel following Vivax's flip but haven't gotten there yet.
Your EoD and response following was off, but I think I still tr you. I think you are in a place where "If I'm wrong about everything else" it's Hally.
Yeah just got to the claim shenanigans. I agree.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:51 pmIlario is not wolf.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmIlario and Pyxxy are pretty solid wolf reads.
I need to ISO Neon and gauge how I feel following Vivax's flip but haven't gotten there yet.
Your EoD and response following was off, but I think I still tr you. I think you are in a place where "If I'm wrong about everything else" it's Hally.
This is too cheeky by half...did you actually crack a beer?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:53 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:51 pmOh, well then you must be Maf, 100%Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pmBut I've only been CC'd once.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmSince I am town, #2 & #4 seem equally likely at this pointSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:43 amThe Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
I also looked good after a Vivax flip, so the fact that they killed Santy over me is likely for one or more of the following reasons:
1.) Falcon is wolf - I protected Falcon, Santy pushed Falcon.
2.) Wolves aren't sure about my claim or if I am even a player. Good. Let them wifom.
3.) Santy has been a pain in their arses for longer than I have - this also kind of points to "Falcon is wolf" since Santy's next suspect after Vivax is Falcon, but maybe I should look through Santy and see who they were bothering earlier in the game.
4.) Seanzie is a wolf and snowing y'all.
And before you say "But Vivax, my town cred!"...well, I think you know my opinion about wolves & their teammate's
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[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Yes.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:55 pmThis is too cheeky by half...did you actually crack a beer?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:53 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:51 pmOh, well then you must be Maf, 100%Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pmBut I've only been CC'd once.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pmSince I am town, #2 & #4 seem equally likely at this pointSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:43 amThe Santy kill makes sense regardless of who is mafia because they were widely townread and gained even more towncred after Vivax's flip. That's how I would interpret the Santy kill in town!Falcon world.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I don't see why the santy kill makes more sense if I'm wolf than town.
I am town. Am I particularly effective? Well, who knows...I mean, it's not like we have any the players from my votes flipped, so who's to say.
In a world where I'm Town (which is the world we are in), then how do you interpret the santy kill?
I also looked good after a Vivax flip, so the fact that they killed Santy over me is likely for one or more of the following reasons:
1.) Falcon is wolf - I protected Falcon, Santy pushed Falcon.
2.) Wolves aren't sure about my claim or if I am even a player. Good. Let them wifom.
3.) Santy has been a pain in their arses for longer than I have - this also kind of points to "Falcon is wolf" since Santy's next suspect after Vivax is Falcon, but maybe I should look through Santy and see who they were bothering earlier in the game.
4.) Seanzie is a wolf and snowing y'all.
And before you say "But Vivax, my town cred!"...well, I think you know my opinion about wolves & their teammate's
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[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Ilario claimed they did not use their action at all.
Forgot Nook was in the game tbh. 10/3 out of 19 counted players still around. 6 npcs left.Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:41 amidk i feel like nanook would ~always play if mac invited himJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:39 am I’d swap Pxxy and Nanook and say that’s close enough.
Locktown: Jack, Seanzie, Illario, Michelle, Wilgy
Maybe town: Hally, IAWY, Porscha, Neon
Idk: Nutella, Deezee
Probable wolves: Pxxy, Falcon
but he is playing like an NPC tbh
i’ve honestly been confused at how much he’s been town read
I advise you to worry more about who is wolf than about who is NPC.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:09 pmForgot Nook was in the game tbh. 10/3 out of 19 counted players still around. 6 npcs left.Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:41 amidk i feel like nanook would ~always play if mac invited himJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:39 am I’d swap Pxxy and Nanook and say that’s close enough.
Locktown: Jack, Seanzie, Illario, Michelle, Wilgy
Maybe town: Hally, IAWY, Porscha, Neon
Idk: Nutella, Deezee
Probable wolves: Pxxy, Falcon
but he is playing like an NPC tbh
i’ve honestly been confused at how much he’s been town read
Claimed npc Sprityo? Is that it? NPC likes in Manny, Nook, Schia, Rico? Missing one. Someone chime in and advise.
This feels accurate. I had Porscha as a solid TR for the interactions with Ran, I didn't think that W Porscha would be comfortable posting like they did. Porscha dipping feels like it takes away from that abit.
I believe I advised this last cycle, but I'm afraid our reliance on the purge is setting us up for a really spooky endgame.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:17 pmI advise you to worry more about who is wolf than about who is NPC.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:09 pmForgot Nook was in the game tbh. 10/3 out of 19 counted players still around. 6 npcs left.Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:41 amidk i feel like nanook would ~always play if mac invited himJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:39 am I’d swap Pxxy and Nanook and say that’s close enough.
Locktown: Jack, Seanzie, Illario, Michelle, Wilgy
Maybe town: Hally, IAWY, Porscha, Neon
Idk: Nutella, Deezee
Probable wolves: Pxxy, Falcon
but he is playing like an NPC tbh
i’ve honestly been confused at how much he’s been town read
Claimed npc Sprityo? Is that it? NPC likes in Manny, Nook, Schia, Rico? Missing one. Someone chime in and advise.
NPCs will be gone soon. Just chop wolves.
That's fine. Yeet people who are lurking then if you believe them to be wolves. That does not involve trying to find exactly who the NPCs are. I'm not saying "believe all NPC claims" or "don't sort through people who might look like an NPC", I'm saying yeet wolves.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:21 pmI believe I advised this last cycle, but I'm afraid our reliance on the purge is setting us up for a really spooky endgame.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:17 pmI advise you to worry more about who is wolf than about who is NPC.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:09 pmForgot Nook was in the game tbh. 10/3 out of 19 counted players still around. 6 npcs left.Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:41 amidk i feel like nanook would ~always play if mac invited himJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:39 am I’d swap Pxxy and Nanook and say that’s close enough.
Locktown: Jack, Seanzie, Illario, Michelle, Wilgy
Maybe town: Hally, IAWY, Porscha, Neon
Idk: Nutella, Deezee
Probable wolves: Pxxy, Falcon
but he is playing like an NPC tbh
i’ve honestly been confused at how much he’s been town read
Claimed npc Sprityo? Is that it? NPC likes in Manny, Nook, Schia, Rico? Missing one. Someone chime in and advise.
NPCs will be gone soon. Just chop wolves.
I.e. what if Sprit, Nook and Schia are all still around post purge? We chainyeet blind slots?
So while I agree, we should chop wolves, I think it's wise to recall wolves can be lurking and I think that the gamestate almost reflects this as the case.
can you elaborate at all on the falcon gut read? i'm still not really seeing much in his posts but occasionally i feel he has towny vibes, help me strengthen that if you're so confidentDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:27 pm And perhaps this is because I still don't see wolves in Nutella and Falcon, but the thread does.
Neither of these suspicions read true to me. Nutella and Vivax are VERY unlikely W/W. Vivax would've needed to be open wolfing for the early game between those two slots to not be a town/npc not just being pocketed, I think. There's also a few Vivax posts that at least indicate that howling at the thread wasn't their game plan 100% of the time. I can get the quotes later.
Falcon is a gut read, but I'm becoming more confident I'm it as we progress.
This here is a very T Falcon post.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:15 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine
I'm used to seeing them solve more, let's get em'
I'd also like to say that while I'm not going to shield Falcon today, I'm also not voting them (but I might change my mind). Right now, I still haven't gotten to a confident townread, but I'd still put them more than 65% likely to be town here (which I know is technically below rand, but still, I wouldn't call it a scum read, just not a super powerful townread).