The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

Dom wrote:Golden, that's some BS.

Glorfindel wrote:It's a damn sight more than a possibility my friend, I can promise you that!

Glorfindel wrote:

juliets wrote:sprityo, i'm sorry I participated in your lynch. I guess there were just some things I took wrong or misunderstood. I hope you'll be back to play again in another game.

S~V~S wrote:
And I appreciate it when I would not even defend myself that day. I really had just thrown my hands up and said, "Fine, I'll show them" that day, and I appreciate you putting in the effort for me. Yesterday was different. Yesterday the self vote was more of a pressure vote. I wanted to see who would put their money where their mouth was. Golden keeps saying, "I don't know why SVS thinks I am gonna vote for her". Well, I was his main topic of discussion, every post where he mentioned me he mentioned some form of "bad", for starters. And Glorfindel (writing "Glor or Glorf" seems disrespectful to the High Elven, lol) clearly stated he was going to vote for me. I asked 3 tumes for his reasons, finally he said, search my posts. And I did and I could not find it, and asked him to link me to it two or three times,and he ignored me,even though he replied to posts both before & after mine.

Glorfindel, you did say you would vote for SVS and she did ask for your reasons. Why, especially after she couldn't find anything in your posts, did you ignore her request for a link?

Hey, Juliets . Basically for two reasons:

1. I didn't understand what she meant. If she wanted me to copy my post (please refer point 2). If she was expecting something else, I don't know what she expected or how to perform that operation on this site.

2. Given that my post was within a single page of her post, I considered her request vexatious,

I'm happy to cooperate with anyone who shares my desire to have this game turn out right but I'm harbouring grave doubts that S-V-S truly does. I note my question to MP remains unaddressed, I know he probably hasn't been around all that much but out of courtesy, I expect a reply when he does.

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Suspects.
Literally anything but complaining.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

Come on
Golden, that's some BS.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

This is how I feel.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

But why tho?
I've been asking for days.

Typhoony wrote:Ehm, my voting record beats yours DF.
Not only have you not voted for a baddie, you have only voted civs. You have voted Scotty, sig, MP and sprityo. Given that, talking about voting records may not be the best look for you. Maybe focus on posts, see what you can find. And I'm looking forward to your findings!

Typhoony wrote:Eh maybe you should try my approach next time. Not the one under major suspicion atm. You are though, probably because your gameplay this game is similar to your baddie gameplay. Gameplay from me this game is not. Maybe, probably even, people have noticed that. And that's why none of the major powerhouses as you describe it really suspect me.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Golden, that's some BS.

Sorry, Dom, but its not. If you think I've made any specific role hint, then you are reading into something wrong. For instance, I could see how you might think I was the cop who needs Freeze dead, but I had absolutely no intention of hinting at being that.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Golden, that's some BS.

Sorry, Dom, but its not. If you think I've made any specific role hint, then you are reading into something wrong. For instance, I could see how you might think I was the cop who needs Freeze dead, but I had absolutely no intention of hinting at being that.

If you had no intention of hinting at anything then you should shut the fuck up and not hint :P

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Suspects.
Literally anything but complaining.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

Come on
Golden, that's some BS.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

This is how I feel.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

But why tho?
I've been asking for days.

Have you read my posts

Enrique wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Ehm, my voting record beats yours DF.
Not only have you not voted for a baddie, you have only voted civs. You have voted Scotty, sig, MP and sprityo. Given that, talking about voting records may not be the best look for you. Maybe focus on posts, see what you can find. And I'm looking forward to your findings!

I thought this was pretty funny.

But also a post Typhoony made yesterday made me super uncomfortable so he's not a bad candidate to me.

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Suspects.
Literally anything but complaining.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

Come on
Golden, that's some BS.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

This is how I feel.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

But why tho?
I've been asking for days.

Have you read my posts

Yeah. I asked yo uwho yo uwanted to vote for and you avoided the question with humor.


So, I'm just looking for your input.

Enrique wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Eh maybe you should try my approach next time. Not the one under major suspicion atm. You are though, probably because your gameplay this game is similar to your baddie gameplay. Gameplay from me this game is not. Maybe, probably even, people have noticed that. And that's why none of the major powerhouses as you describe it really suspect me.

*pukes*

Turnip Head wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Eh maybe you should try my approach next time. Not the one under major suspicion atm. You are though, probably because your gameplay this game is similar to your baddie gameplay. Gameplay from me this game is not. Maybe, probably even, people have noticed that. And that's why none of the major powerhouses as you describe it really suspect me.

*pukes*

Yeah this post rubbed me the wrong way too. I don't even really know what Typh's baddie gameplay looks like. Anyone wanna weigh in here?

Matt wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:It's a damn sight more than a possibility my friend, I can promise you that!

Lol. Dom's not gonna like that.

Btw, you haven't addressed my switch up on you and why I don't think you're a bad lynch.

Let me clarify...

I've been thinking, "Why would a player drop hints to being Two-Face?" The only answer I can come up with, is that you're mafia, and you dropped hints for Two-Face so later down the line if you were suspected, you could use that as a quasi-defense on why not to be lynched. Unfortunately for you, I caught it early, and said something before you could.

Either way, the amount of references to two you made before I called you out is astounding, and even if you are Two-Face, a cop needs you dead soooooo yeah.

I agree with MP btw. I think you're the cool beans, Glorfy, and I hope you're havin' a fun time here at Syndicate!

Golden wrote:Ha, Matt... what if glorfindel is cop #2...

Much like the Mr Freeze thing, I can't believe this isn't something that was on my mind earlier.

S~V~S wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

juliets wrote:sprityo, i'm sorry I participated in your lynch. I guess there were just some things I took wrong or misunderstood. I hope you'll be back to play again in another game.

S~V~S wrote:
And I appreciate it when I would not even defend myself that day. I really had just thrown my hands up and said, "Fine, I'll show them" that day, and I appreciate you putting in the effort for me. Yesterday was different. Yesterday the self vote was more of a pressure vote. I wanted to see who would put their money where their mouth was. Golden keeps saying, "I don't know why SVS thinks I am gonna vote for her". Well, I was his main topic of discussion, every post where he mentioned me he mentioned some form of "bad", for starters. And Glorfindel (writing "Glor or Glorf" seems disrespectful to the High Elven, lol) clearly stated he was going to vote for me. I asked 3 tumes for his reasons, finally he said, search my posts. And I did and I could not find it, and asked him to link me to it two or three times,and he ignored me,even though he replied to posts both before & after mine.

Glorfindel, you did say you would vote for SVS and she did ask for your reasons. Why, especially after she couldn't find anything in your posts, did you ignore her request for a link?

Hey, Juliets . Basically for two reasons:

1. I didn't understand what she meant. If she wanted me to copy my post (please refer point 2). If she was expecting something else, I don't know what she expected or how to perform that operation on this site.

2. Given that my post was within a single page of her post, I considered her request vexatious,

I'm happy to cooperate with anyone who shares my desire to have this game turn out right but I'm harbouring grave doubts that S-V-S truly does. I note my question to MP remains unaddressed, I know he probably hasn't been around all that much but out of courtesy, I expect a reply when he does.

I DID look for it, I couldn't find it. I just looked for it again. I can't find it.

Can you please link me to it? I was not trying to be vexatious. And tbh, ignoring people because you find them annoying does not make you look more civvie.

Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.

Golden wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Ehm, my voting record beats yours DF.
Not only have you not voted for a baddie, you have only voted civs. You have voted Scotty, sig, MP and sprityo. Given that, talking about voting records may not be the best look for you. Maybe focus on posts, see what you can find. And I'm looking forward to your findings!

I thought this was pretty funny.

But also a post Typhoony made yesterday made me super uncomfortable so he's not a bad candidate to me.

In what way does Typh making you uncomfortable make you lean good on him?

Golden wrote:Oh, btw, as far as I'm aware I'm not poisoned today. So, thank you whoever has the antidote. Unless having the antidote is simply not making any errors.

Enrique wrote:

Golden wrote:Oh, btw, as far as I'm aware I'm not poisoned today. So, thank you whoever has the antidote. Unless having the antidote is simply not making any errors.

I definitely got told when I got the antidote.

Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.

Golden wrote:I think SVS might be a good judge.

S~V~S wrote:I am going to politely bang my head against the wall, lol.

S~V~S wrote:It is not just me, though.

Bubbles wrote:good job on sabie everyone, probably wouldve voted her (he?) as well if i'd been in time for the vote. i feel like im barely in this game but ive been trying to keep up with reading.
anyway voting wayne's manor cause it sounds cozy

S~V~S wrote:*Teammate sends PM to Bubbles, "you have to get in here & vote, hurry up!!"*

They should have said to make it convincing.

S~V~S wrote:Between work, and Admin-y things, I have spent all of my Mafia time here. I need to go see the other thread, I have barely been in there, so I am going to vote now.

Glorfindel, I think you are a very kind person, a gentleman, and a breath of fresh air. I also think you drew a bad role this game.

*Glorfindel*

Glorfindel wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Between work, and Admin-y things, I have spent all of my Mafia time here. I need to go see the other thread, I have barely been in there, so I am going to vote now.

Glorfindel, I think you are a very kind person, a gentleman, and a breath of fresh air. I also think you drew a bad role this game.

*Glorfindel*

My role is not the issue here my friend (as you will see for yourself at some point). The issue is purely the distorted lens through which you and others have and are judging my comments throughout this game. I doubt a single one of you (with the exception of Golden and maybe Juliets) has even attempted to stand back and consider the possibility that I am genuine. I'd like to think that (in that respect) there would be a perceptible similarity between my performance and my Pikmin game. Thank you for saying those nice things about me and I'm sorry but the fact that you can see that and believe that I am bad in spite of that says more about how you see things than it does about me. I've explained ad nauseum to you that the post to which you refer was 'crafted' the way it was out of respect for my fellow players. I could see grounds for your suspicions had you been able to identify some inconsistency with my subsequent posts but you haven't and I doubt you can. It's much the same thing that we've just witnessed with Matt and Golden and that ridiculous Two-Face accusation that has been leveled at me. The fact that Matt interpreted that 'data' he collected in the way he did, in an unbalanced way illustrates well the struggle that I'm having with this game right now in that his first assumption was that I was bad and he interpreted my posts in that way.

Bubbles wrote:i agree with golden don't think glorfindel is bad, seems genuine to me. voting S~V~S on his behalf

on a side note what is your username based upon glorfindel? it reminds me of lord of the rings

S~V~S wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Between work, and Admin-y things, I have spent all of my Mafia time here. I need to go see the other thread, I have barely been in there, so I am going to vote now.

Glorfindel, I think you are a very kind person, a gentleman, and a breath of fresh air. I also think you drew a bad role this game.

*Glorfindel*

My role is not the issue here my friend (as you will see for yourself at some point). The issue is purely the distorted lens through which you and others have and are judging my comments throughout this game. I doubt a single one of you (with the exception of Golden and maybe Juliets) has even attempted to stand back and consider the possibility that I am genuine. I'd like to think that (in that respect) there would be a perceptible similarity between my performance and my Pikmin game. Thank you for saying those nice things about me and I'm sorry but the fact that you can see that and believe that I am bad in spite of that says more about how you see things than it does about me. I've explained ad nauseum to you that the post to which you refer was 'crafted' the way it was out of respect for my fellow players. I could see grounds for your suspicions had you been able to identify some inconsistency with my subsequent posts but you haven't and I doubt you can. It's much the same thing that we've just witnessed with Matt and Golden and that ridiculous Two-Face accusation that has been leveled at me. The fact that Matt interpreted that 'data' he collected in the way he did, in an unbalanced way illustrates well the struggle that I'm having with this game right now in that his first assumption was that I was bad and he interpreted my posts in that way.

Well, you obviously convinced Bubbles, too

And Juliets changed her mind. I posted the post earlier today.

S~V~S wrote:The next post she made after that one, she said this, Glorfindel:

juliets wrote:I read Pikmin Mafia and Glorfindel's posts did look significantly different - he never appeared frustrated or upset. BUT there is a big difference between that game and the Star Wars game - he never had any pressure on him about being bad. So I don't think I can compare that game with this one.

I'd really like those thinking of voting for Glorfindel to read those two games - it doesn't take long - because I'd like to hear other opinions based on the reads.