The Syndicate

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:32 am there is mechanically no way the two teams know eachother

that's just ridiculous

if their win cons don't align yet one person shares teams it would make no sense and just be way too confusing

if the win cons do align and then know eachother it's functionally not different teams

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:10 am So it's agreed. Falcon is tomorrow's chop.

Why falcon over Al?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:44 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:43 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 am i hate the bk drunk posting

what was wrong with it?

Felt incredibly fake and cliche

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:51 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:44 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:43 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 am i hate the bk drunk posting

what was wrong with it?

Felt incredibly fake and cliche

you think he faked being drunk?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:49 am any idea how many wolves could be in the two teams? someone mentioned 3-3

i have no clue how multiball ratio works

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:51 am @Hally who played that game you mentioned with wolf tony f3 that is playing this one? Basically who do you think might be justifiable paranoid?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:53 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:51 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:44 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:43 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 am i hate the bk drunk posting

what was wrong with it?

Felt incredibly fake and cliche

you think he faked being drunk?

Yes

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:19 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:39 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:26 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm i think that long con is on marmot's team.

thoughts?

why?

long con spent the majority of the day remaining overtly passive until an hour before the deadline - at which point he dropped a passionate defense of ted that was intended solely to spearhead the momentum onto the TSP wagon. i find it believable that long con could be a partner with marmot that believed that TSP was on the Other Team and decided to take a drastic measure to force the chop on him

it's not a theory that i believe in particularly strongly, though. i mostly dropped it to see what kind of reactions i got

why does he need to do that instead of just letting ted die? not saying i disagree with that theory though. it makes as much sense as anything

well, i can see long con wanting to strongarm the chop onto someone on his opposing team as opposed to wanting the chop to fall on someone that he believed was a villager. if long con is a wolf with marmot then he probably thought that ted was town, since ted was clearly unaligned with TSP

They're both town. If I were on a bad team, I would not know which one is town and which one is Gerhardt.

I pushed for ted being town before Michelle outed the check. I wouldn't get any cred for it if ted wasn't yeeted because no one would know I was right. Given my tenuous position, it would be unwise for wolf-me to work to eliminate one of the strongest contenders to be executed over me.

Also: how can we be sure Michelle is legit, and not just on a team with ted?

?????????????

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:50 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:19 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:04 pm @Michelle next time don't mess around, if you have mech on a hugely scumread player say so. Don't wait the whole 48 hours

TonyStarkPrime next time don't mess around, if you're so largely scumread don't get all prideful and not claim. You weren't going to be the NK ever, even if you were what are the chances we get two wolves off of you? Also now we don't have your RB and vote silence.

I didn't mess around, i spent all my free time trying to explain Ted is not an option and trying a wagon on Nanook, wagon who didn't grow more than 4.

About Syndicate's people pride you have to accept it and work with it. After a while you'll get it

What I don't like was how come the Sindicate vets didn't notice, like I did, that Tony has villagery posts.

I think some of them are scum in the town core and some of them are sheeping the firsts.
This is my idea for now.

If you are indeed the cop and you’re thinking of checking me: don’t. I’m about to self-resolve. Your shot is better spent elsewhere.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:50 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:32 am there is mechanically no way the two teams know eachother

that's just ridiculous

if their win cons don't align yet one person shares teams it would make no sense and just be way too confusing

if the win cons do align and then know eachother it's functionally not different teams

yeah, it’s not a thing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:55 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:51 am @Hally who played that game you mentioned with wolf tony f3 that is playing this one? Basically who do you think might be justifiable paranoid?

here’s the game: https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... =27&t=2055

jay ran it

boknows, falcon, kza, esooa, mac, spf, sloonei, nook, alison and lc were all in it

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:40 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm [VOTE: VOTE TSP] aubergine

I want to stick my neck out and say this is an ok look for falcon?

If we assume both wagons are town (Al & TSP) then why would falcon ever make this switch? He can stay right where he is.

Similarly, if Al is mafia then what mafia partner/or mafia on the other team would go out of their way to switch like that right at the last second to make themselves immediately obvious? Of course, this argument could be countered by WIFOM. It's not completely impossible but I think the scenario that falcon is town and had a change of heart is more likely.

@falcon45ca why did you switch your vote at EoD?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Exactly. No one had work in the morning, so why wasn’t everybody in the thread doing heavy analysis?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Exactly. No one had work in the morning, so why wasn’t everybody in the thread doing heavy analysis?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:40 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm [VOTE: VOTE TSP] aubergine

I want to stick my neck out and say this is an ok look for falcon?

If we assume both wagons are town (Al & TSP) then why would falcon ever make this switch? He can stay right where he is.

Similarly, if Al is mafia then what mafia partner/or mafia on the other team would go out of their way to switch like that right at the last second to make themselves immediately obvious? Of course, this argument could be countered by WIFOM. It's not completely impossible but I think the scenario that falcon is town and had a change of heart is more likely.

@falcon45ca why did you switch your vote at EoD?

Why does it matter? I voted within my POE, I don't need to explain beyond that I'd think.

I was comfortable with Al or TSP and was quite clear about that all RD. Anyone acting like it was a sudden change of heart or was incongruous with my line of thought in game is being disingenuous

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Exactly. No one had work in the morning, so why wasn’t everybody in the thread doing heavy analysis?

Sometimes people go out on Saturday nights with friends and do things away from the game in their normal lives?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:40 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm [VOTE: VOTE TSP] aubergine

I want to stick my neck out and say this is an ok look for falcon?

If we assume both wagons are town (Al & TSP) then why would falcon ever make this switch? He can stay right where he is.

Similarly, if Al is mafia then what mafia partner/or mafia on the other team would go out of their way to switch like that right at the last second to make themselves immediately obvious? Of course, this argument could be countered by WIFOM. It's not completely impossible but I think the scenario that falcon is town and had a change of heart is more likely.

@falcon45ca why did you switch your vote at EoD?

Why does it matter? I voted within my POE, I don't need to explain beyond that I'd think.

I was comfortable with Al or TSP and was quite clear about that all RD. Anyone acting like it was a sudden change of heart or was incongruous with my line of thought in game is being disingenuous

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Exactly. No one had work in the morning, so why wasn’t everybody in the thread doing heavy analysis?

Sometimes people go out on Saturday nights with friends and do things away from the game in their normal lives?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Exactly. No one had work in the morning, so why wasn’t everybody in the thread doing heavy analysis?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm The super serious mafia player in me was skeptical that the drunk posting came at a time when we were starting to have a constructive dialogue about the gamestate.

it was a saturday night

Exactly. No one had work in the morning, so why wasn’t everybody in the thread doing heavy analysis?

Some people do work weekends. I mean not me lol and to be honest I don’t think I know what anyone does for work here really

I planned on looking at the thread more, but it was already late and I fell asleep on the couch

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:14 pm I was trying to get in on the banter but failed

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:22 pmhi

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:27 pm when did ted become clear?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:27 pm when did ted become clear?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:29 pm as long as people don't role claim we should be okay.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:30 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:29 pm as long as people don't role claim we should be okay.

Huh? Explain this

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:30 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:29 pm as long as people don't role claim we should be okay.

Huh? Explain this

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:30 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:29 pm as long as people don't role claim we should be okay.

Huh? Explain this

think that's a reference to the soup fear

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:30 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:29 pm as long as people don't role claim we should be okay.

Huh? Explain this

think that's a reference to the soup fear

what if he's TMIing it

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm @Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:39 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

he's throwing shade at me all game. he's not even trying anymore, just throws shade.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:08 am Anyone down for tring to build a 5-person POE as an exercise?

al_sama, nanook, and dom are unavoidably going to be in it, I think. Though some people seem to be treating nanook as self-resolving with his "I have a role" claim. But meh. If I am looking at this game big picture, then nanook is one of the three people I am most suspicious of.

The remaining two slots are trickier. My gut wants to throw Falcon in there as a signal that we need to re-evaluate, but that's hasty. I suppose JPIC belongs. He feels like a comfortable #4.

The fact that I am now struggling to name a 5th in the pool of remaining players is worrying.

"Clears":
Hally
Alison
Esooa
Michelle
Ted

Pseudo-clears:
Oddmerta
KZA

Me:
Me

That leaves the following group of people:
Long Con
falcon
fingersplints
BoKnows
staypositivefriend

So... which person(s) from that list can be crammed into shrunken POE pool?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:33 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm @Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)

His lack of an explanation upon request is not a great look either.

If you had to crunch the game down into a 5-player pool of suspects, who would they be?