The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:33 pm**

Kate wrote:Did INH say he was going to be late?

yes I think he did.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:37 pm**

insertnamehere wrote:PUBLIC NOTICE: In my rush to leave, I forgot to add SVS and Birdwithteeth to the poll, and even more important, I changed the poll end time to tomorrow afternoon, not in two days. I probably will not be able to log on again until tomorrow afternoon.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:39 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:PUBLIC NOTICE: In my rush to leave, I forgot to add SVS and Birdwithteeth to the poll, and even more important, I changed the poll end time to tomorrow afternoon, not in two days. I probably will not be able to log on again until tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:45 pm**

I must have refreshed this page about 9000 times today...

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:49 pm**

Kate wrote:I must have refreshed this page about 9000 times today...

LOL....me too!

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:49 pm**

Kate wrote:I must have refreshed this page about 9000 times today...

Writing up the Day post now...

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:51 pm**

insertnamehere wrote:
Kate wrote:I must have refreshed this page about 9000 times today...
Writing up the Day post now...

Such a tease!!! lmao. I'm such a dork, I got all butterfly-ish...haha!

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:54 pm**

Still not the Day Post.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:01 pm**

OMG. that was just mean!!!!

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:03 pm**

insertnamehere wrote:Still not the Day Post.

Do it again.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:04 pm**

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:04 pm**

Life fades out, and I wonder what I'm doing in a room like this. There's a knock on the door, and just for a second, I thought I remembered you.

A poem as lovely as a tree:

As the night wind blows, the boughs move to and fro.
The rustling, the magic rustling that brings on the dark dream.
The dream of suffering and pain.
Pain for the victim, pain for the inflicter of pain.
A circle of pain, a circle of suffering.
Woe to the ones who behold the pale horse.

Nobody has died. It is now Night 3, you have 24 hours to PM me your night actions.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:05 pm**

Alright, now we are cooking with gas!

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:06 pm**

Hmmmm. What is everyone thinking?

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:08 pm**

Right now all I'm thinking is that its probably good Mata did not die. Now we need to read back and see what we can figure out.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:11 pm**

Kate wrote:Right now all I'm thinking is that its probably good Mata did not die. Now we need to read back and see what we can figure out.

I agree. And i just realised why I and Llama were never confirmed civvies. Because whoever is playing Donna Hayward knows how the move works.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:12 pm**

The only role I see that could have stopped a lynch at this point is Josie. So either Mata is Josie, or someone who is on the same team as Mata and knows it is Josie. Of course, any of these people could be recruits, so this tells us nothing.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:13 pm**

I think Mata is Josie, because she said she used her power when she was the only one with a vote. That doesn't make her civ, though.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:13 pm**

thellama73 wrote:The only role I see that could have stopped a lynch at this point is Josie. So either Mata is Josie, or someone who is on the same team as Mata and knows it is Josie. Of course, any of these people could be recruits, so this tells us nothing.

This is true. Or Mata is anyone else and her team mate is Josie

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:14 pm**

thellama73 wrote:I think Mata is Josie, because she said she used her power when she was the only one with a vote. That doesn't make her civ, though.

Just her saying it don't make it true.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:15 pm**

thellama73 wrote:I think Mata is Josie, because she said she used her power when she was the only one with a vote. That doesn't make her civ, though.

I think that necessarily makes her Josie either. I also think its a bad idea to ferret out civvie roles in the thread.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:18 pm**

and yeah, I thought when you stopped a lynch, that the people who already had votes would still get lynched. I thought cancel meant the whole thing doesnt count, and switch was well, you know.

same principle applies though, interesting vote manip was going on last night, and logic says that one of the two players who didnt get a vote, and was cleared yesterday, might have been recruited yesterday.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:19 pm**

and maybe not- I'll see what everyone else has to say.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:22 pm**

Are you under the impression that Bob does not have BTSC with his minions? I just reread his role, that seems like it may be true.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:24 pm**

Kate wrote:Are you under the impression that Bob does not have BTSC with his minions? I just reread his role, that seems like it may be true.

It must be true. Otherwise he would be vastly too powerful.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:27 pm**

I'm so sorry everyone! I was at a concert last night with my gf, MP, and SpaceDaisy, so I didn't get home late. And I worked at 8 EST this morning, so I completely forgot to check in late last night or early this morning, hence why I missed the vote. I knew being in 2 games right now was too much for me.

I'm HOPING I can finally get caught up in this game tonight and get some semblance of what in the world is going on. Because right now all I've really done is skimmed the day post.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:28 pm**

I'm confused as to when he actually recruits. So it says on even days. So when on even days? Are we to assume that once odd night X ends, he sends in a PM saying I'll take player Y as a minion?

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:28 pm**

good guestion, I'm working on the assumption that some smilie code was going on, either way

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:09 pm**

thellama73 wrote:The only role I see that could have stopped a lynch at this point is Josie. So either Mata is Josie, or someone who is on the same team as Mata and knows it is Josie. Of course, any of these people could be recruits, so this tells us nothing.

There are quite a few roles with *secrets* though. Maybe one of them could have stopped the lynch or altered the results somehow?

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:53 pm**

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:The only role I see that could have stopped a lynch at this point is Josie. So either Mata is Josie, or someone who is on the same team as Mata and knows it is Josie. Of course, any of these people could be recruits, so this tells us nothing.
There are quite a few roles with *secrets* though. Maybe one of them could have stopped the lynch or altered the results somehow?

^^This.

Yay for no death, though, whatever the means. And Kate is right~ labeling civ roles in the thread is a bad idea. Even in a game like this where the baddies know who is a civ, they still may not know the roles, and it is good form to stay in for other games with 2 Mafias. Newer players, you WILL get crucified for labeling civ roles in big games with 2 mafias and multiple Indys. So stay in practice, just don't do it

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:15 pm**

S~V~S wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:The only role I see that could have stopped a lynch at this point is Josie. So either Mata is Josie, or someone who is on the same team as Mata and knows it is Josie. Of course, any of these people could be recruits, so this tells us nothing.
There are quite a few roles with *secrets* though. Maybe one of them could have stopped the lynch or altered the results somehow?
^^This.

Yay for no death, though, whatever the means. And Kate is right~ labeling civ roles in the thread is a bad idea. Even in a game like this where the baddies know who is a civ, they still may not know the roles, and it is good form to stay in for other games with 2 Mafias. Newer players, you WILL get crucified for labeling civ roles in big games with 2 mafias and multiple Indys. So stay in practice, just don't do it

Not just that but they may want to take out certain roles. Why let them know who is who?

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:20 pm**

Yeah, thats why i said they may not know the roles. But clarity is not always my strong suit, lol~

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:35 pm**

I feel like we really need some sort of cohesive lynch strategy. Without this will be a game of recruits picking civvies off.

I would like to hear what everyone thinks is the best way to go. I really did not like llama's plan of leaving 7 people uncovered but no one else really talked about it. Does anyone else see merit to his plan? Besides Snow Dog who is sure to agree with it

Mati I see why you think that but I am not a recruit. I will not be forced into killing anyone tonight.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:39 pm**

Also I hope it was a good thing Mati was saved - I actually was trusting bf before he bowed out of the game. Still though he could have been recruited. I don't think so. Who knows lol

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:59 pm**

Hey guys, I know I said I would probably get to this tonight, but I'm exhausted and will likely be up early tomorrow to study.

So I'm just here to say I'm going to attempt (key word) to try some sort of catch up on either or both of my games tomorrow. Just got out of night class after a long day.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:24 pm**

Roxy wrote:I feel like we really need some sort of cohesive lynch strategy. Without this will be a game of recruits picking civvies off.

I would like to hear what everyone thinks is the best way to go. I really did not like llama's plan of leaving 7 people uncovered but no one else really talked about it. Does anyone else see merit to his plan? Besides Snow Dog who is sure to agree with it

Mati I see why you think that but I am not a recruit. I will not be forced into killing anyone tonight.

Does anyone disagree with my logic that if we split the vote, the baddies cotrol who gets lynched? No one has addressed it and the fact that Roxy is pushing the opposite strategy without addressing why I am wrong pings me significantly.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:35 pm**

Hmmm. Well at least I understand all the hints Mata dropped now (I think).

So we're on Night 3 now, right? When does tonight end? And is anyone sure about when BOB recruits? Kate, it did also seem to me like it happens at the end of even day periods (so, for example, not today but tomorrow). Whether we should be counting on 3 or 4 baddies could affect my view of the best voting strategy.

Another thing: does each minion get a kill, or do they all share one? It seems like they'd be insanely overpowered if they could all kill.

One thing I realized is we could use the opposite strategy we've been using. Instead of spreading to nearly everyone, we could decide together on 2 or maybe 3 of the most suspicious players and lynch one of them while voting for the other(s). Ideally, I think, we'd try to lynch the person who seems most BOB-like and get votes on his possible recruits. That way we take down the most likely baddie and hopefully avoid any lynch manipulations, and if there's no NK (or fewer NKs than there should be, depending on the answer to my question about how minions kill) we'll know recruits are among the vote-getters.

Of course, that's a risky strategy because if we miss even one recruit there'll be an NK. I just thought I would bring it up, as it seems we may need a more aggressive strategy in order to find BOB quickly.

So I guess I'm a bit torn between llama's and Roxy's offensive and defensive strategies. I think we need to pretty much decide on one unanimously by tomorrow though or the lynch will be a disaster. I hope others will weigh in on this.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:39 am**

I'm kind of thinking that I'm not worth keeping around at this point, but if there is only one minion unvoted, I dont think I'm important enough to waste a kill on. On the off-chance two minions are unvoted (I think it was planned that way, but someone messed up the voting plan) then I might be a goner. Anyhow, it seems odd to me that Roxy is the only player who mentioned the smilie code. Very odd.

Its also very odd the way those last minutes votes were going this morning, all that directing and following. Felt so planned, ya know?

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:00 am**

Roxy wrote:I feel like we really need some sort of cohesive lynch strategy. Without this will be a game of recruits picking civvies off.

I would like to hear what everyone thinks is the best way to go. I really did not like llama's plan of leaving 7 people uncovered but no one else really talked about it. Does anyone else see merit to his plan? Besides Snow Dog who is sure to agree with it

No I think it is a terrible idea. And I fear we ahve too many uncoverd now. I fear a night kill. There are at least two uncovered I do not trust at all.

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:The only role I see that could have stopped a lynch at this point is Josie. So either Mata is Josie, or someone who is on the same team as Mata and knows it is Josie. Of course, any of these people could be recruits, so this tells us nothing.
There are quite a few roles with *secrets* though. Maybe one of them could have stopped the lynch or altered the results somehow?

Yes but I have been only looking at the white roles. Blacks are not active yet as far as I know. So only Josie could have stopped this lynch.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:13 am**

Llama - I am not advocating any plan of my own. I do not have one. I am asking people what they think of your plan even though I don't like it.
I hate the part about leaving 7 people uncovered.

Mati - lol please pull any or all quotes where I talk about a smilie code b/c the only person who has been talking about it is you tbqh.
You are also talking about why you wouldn't be worth killing but you also say you don't think you are worth keeping around - what did all that mean?

Why do people think there is more than 2 baddies right now? We have only had ONE even day so that would mean only ONE recruit.

The only person I trust that is uncovered is me.

Snow Dog can you offer a better solution to our lynch quandry?

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:15 am**

At least until Day 4 then there will be 3.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:20 am**

Roxy wrote:Llama - I am not advocating any plan of my own. I do not have one. I am asking people what they think of your plan even though I don't like it.
I hate the part about leaving 7 people uncovered.

Mati - lol please pull any or all quotes where I talk about a smilie code b/c the only person who has been talking about it is you tbqh.
You are also talking about why you wouldn't be worth killing but you also say you don't think you are worth keeping around - what did all that mean?

Why do people think there is more than 2 baddies right now? We have only had ONE even day so that would mean only ONE recruit.

The only person I trust that is uncovered is me.

Snow Dog can you offer a better solution to our lynch quandry?

There are three baddies. Bob, his day two recruit and his day zero recruit.

As for a better solution. I seriously think we need to cover evryone except three at most. And we have to agree on a lynch. I cannot go through that last minute panic again.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:58 am**

I asked earlier in the game after taking over if Bob recruited on Day 0 no one answered me so assumed - wrongly - that there is only 1.

I agree with you going with llama's plan requires 7 people open and I am not comfortable with it. Yes as I said we need a cohesive plan.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:48 am**

So no one is bothered by the fact that if we cover seven people, there will be three votes left, all of which could be baddie and could be used to direct the lynch? If we let the baddies control the lynch, we will never kill a single one of them.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:50 am**

thellama73 wrote:So no one is bothered by the fact that if we cover seven people, there will be three votes left, all of which could be baddie and could be used to direct the lynch? If we let the baddies control the lynch, we will never kill a single one of them.

If anyone doesn't follow our plan (if we can actually agree who to lynch) then they will reveal themselves as baddie.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:03 am**

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:So no one is bothered by the fact that if we cover seven people, there will be three votes left, all of which could be baddie and could be used to direct the lynch? If we let the baddies control the lynch, we will never kill a single one of them.
If anyone doesn't follow our plan (if we can actually agree who to lynch) then they will reveal themselves as baddie.

Will it matter at that point? There will be four of them and 5 of us (making the rather large assumption that there are no NKs tonight or tomorrow night.)

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:07 am**

thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:So no one is bothered by the fact that if we cover seven people, there will be three votes left, all of which could be baddie and could be used to direct the lynch? If we let the baddies control the lynch, we will never kill a single one of them.
If anyone doesn't follow our plan (if we can actually agree who to lynch) then they will reveal themselves as baddie.
Will it matter at that point? There will be four of them and 5 of us (making the rather large assumption that there are no NKs tonight or tomorrow night.)

It's night 3 now so for tomorrows lynch still remains 7 - 3. But assuming one NK 6 - 3. I am fearing 2 nks though. I jusst hope I am totally wrong. If so we know where to look either way.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:37 am**

May the skimming of 10 pages or so commence!

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:21 am**

I'm confused by the assumption that each recruit gets their own NK. I was reading that power as they get a communal NK instead, what makes you guys think they could have 2?

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:25 am**

Russtifinko wrote:I'm confused by the assumption that each recruit gets their own NK. I was reading that power as they get a communal NK instead, what makes you guys think they could have 2?

I think INH confirmed it in the thread.

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