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Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:24 pm**

Yeah mod-confirming townies doesn't sound like Jack's style. My guess is those three roles were secretly destined to start on Goodguyia, no matter who ended up with them. After all I haven't played a lot of Fire Emblem but a *shocking reveal* seems totally in character.

Not that one of them is necessarily bad, of course, since it would depend on how the draft shook out. But I'm not taking those positions as alignment-indicative.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:24 pm**

In all actuality, I'm from dunyia, land of the sand dunes and cats.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:25 pm**

Oh hey, just read the title where Rico is from Goodguyia.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:25 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:10 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:04 pm I'm not sure if I'm prepared to live in an universe where Marmot is confirmed civ.

The whole idea sounds alien in my mind.
I'm here to debunk that theory anyway.

It appears that there are particular roles in Ricochet's army: Paladin and Cavalier. All of those roles now exist in Ricochet's army.

Our alignment has no impact on the role we received, so you can go on believing I'm not confirmed civilian.
So you're not from Goodguyia?
Dunno, haven't gotten a backstory yet.
so how did you debunk the theory?
I can be a civilian and not from Goodguyia right?

4) All townies will be randomly assigned to the nations of Goodguyia, Allyia, Nomadia or Badguyia if their backstory does not specify one. Scum are all from Badguyia. This is mostly flavor but some powers are affected by what country you are from.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:25 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:10 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:04 pm I'm not sure if I'm prepared to live in an universe where Marmot is confirmed civ.

The whole idea sounds alien in my mind.
I'm here to debunk that theory anyway.

It appears that there are particular roles in Ricochet's army: Paladin and Cavalier. All of those roles now exist in Ricochet's army.

Our alignment has no impact on the role we received, so you can go on believing I'm not confirmed civilian.
So you're not from Goodguyia?
Dunno, haven't gotten a backstory yet.
so how did you debunk the theory?
I can be a civilian and not from Goodguyia right?

Yea, but the theory was you three are confirmed civs because your backstories line up with the fact you're recruited in Rico's Goodguyia army because you're from...wait for it...Goodguyia.

Which sounds really bad, but eh.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:26 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:24 pm In all actuality, I'm from dunyia, land of the sand dunes and cats.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm**

So in other words, each player has:
Class = public power
Backstory = claim and secret passive/one-shot power
Country = Flavor signifier (every mafia is from badguyia, not everyone from badguyia is necessarily mafia)
Alignment = what it says on the tin

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm**

What colonialbob said. Just because I'm from Goodguyia doesn't mean I'm civilian. Additionally, mafia roles have a townie and scum backstory.

So feel free to suspect me JaggedJimmyJay at your will.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:31 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm So feel free to suspect me JaggedJimmyJay at your will.

k, let's lynch JJJ Day 1. His holier-than-thou shtick is tiresome.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:32 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:10 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:04 pm I'm not sure if I'm prepared to live in an universe where Marmot is confirmed civ.

The whole idea sounds alien in my mind.
I'm here to debunk that theory anyway.

It appears that there are particular roles in Ricochet's army: Paladin and Cavalier. All of those roles now exist in Ricochet's army.

Our alignment has no impact on the role we received, so you can go on believing I'm not confirmed civilian.
So you're not from Goodguyia?
Dunno, haven't gotten a backstory yet.
so how did you debunk the theory?

MM's point is

Player alignments got drafted before the roles did. The three roles that went to goodguya are all similar (doctors) and obviously related to good guys. Either this is a huge coincidence or... they are not civ confirmed.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:32 pm**

Also I'll note it never says they're *from* Goodguyia, just that they're in the Army of Goodguyia.

Flavor-wise, FE is one of those games where you start with a small group of friends/prince and bodyguard or something similar, then as you progress you recruit more characters to your team. So I take that opening list of characters to basically be flavor.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am @Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?

honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:35 pm**

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am @Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?
honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever

Don't worry, lynching JaggedJimmyJay will be much less confusing than anything that has happened thus far.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:47 pm**

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?
honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever

that's understandable, everyone and everything is new. It's new to everyone here too. Feel free to ask gameplay related questions as they come to you though, you never know how the answers could help us.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:55 pm**

I’m pretty sure those roles line up with the starting characters in the first Fire Emblem game released outside of Japan. Maybe missing an archer.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:58 pm**

There’s also at least one Fire Emblem game where a character starts out as a player controlled “good guy” but eventually betrays you and becomes an enemy you fight. None of this matters, most likely. Just sayin’.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:02 pm**

Don't betray me wilikers, I have faith in you.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:07 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:47 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?
honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever
that's understandable, everyone and everything is new. It's new to everyone here too. Feel free to ask gameplay related questions as they come to you though, you never know how the answers could help us.

yeah sure

do you have your notebook filled with suspicions and theories yet?

taking notes would be a good idea in a game this big but i really don’t wanna stress over this

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:08 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:58 amI'm not entirely sure yet. I'm from Allyia, so I'm guessing RDW, JJJ and Marmot are from Goodguyia and can recruit people to them?

how do you know where you're from already?

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:12 pm**

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:55 pm I’m pretty sure those roles line up with the starting characters in the first Fire Emblem game released outside of Japan. Maybe missing an archer.

interesting. Out of those 3, only Jay specifically asked for Paladin and received it. I wonder if he knew how the game started.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:13 pm**

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:07 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:47 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?
honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever
that's understandable, everyone and everything is new. It's new to everyone here too. Feel free to ask gameplay related questions as they come to you though, you never know how the answers could help us.
yeah sure do you have your notebook filled with suspicions and theories yet? taking notes would be a good idea in a game this big but i really don’t wanna stress over this

My notebook is usually filled with lists, bad/good/suspicious

I've made a few notes down already, sure.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:13 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:08 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:58 amI'm not entirely sure yet. I'm from Allyia, so I'm guessing RDW, JJJ and Marmot are from Goodguyia and can recruit people to them?
how do you know where you're from already?

obviously because JOH PMd me my backstory.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:15 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:13 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:08 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:58 amI'm not entirely sure yet. I'm from Allyia, so I'm guessing RDW, JJJ and Marmot are from Goodguyia and can recruit people to them?
how do you know where you're from already?
obviously because JOH PMd me my backstory.

!!!!!!!!! it's finally happening

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:18 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:12 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:55 pm I’m pretty sure those roles line up with the starting characters in the first Fire Emblem game released outside of Japan. Maybe missing an archer.
interesting. Out of those 3, only Jay specifically asked for Paladin and received it. I wonder if he knew how the game started.

No idea.

The cavaliers are the unpromoted paladins. The three roles are already tied together without being colored green in the first post. I suspect this is a matter of flavor. The host isn’t revealing three civilians on Day 0. I do have civilian reads on the cavaliers though.

Which one is LeBron and which one is Kevin Love?

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:22 pm**

I'd have to know what distinguishes LeBron from Kevin Love first to be able to answer that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:24 pm**

Rdw is clearly LeBron.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:31 pm**

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:24 pm Rdw is clearly LeBron.

http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_ ... n_love.htm

Poor marmot, living in RDW's shadow.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:33 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm So feel free to suspect me JaggedJimmyJay at your will.
k, let's lynch JJJ Day 1. His holier-than-thou shtick is tiresome.

You haven't met many paladins, have you?

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:36 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm So feel free to suspect me JaggedJimmyJay at your will.
k, let's lynch JJJ Day 1. His holier-than-thou shtick is tiresome.
You haven't met many paladins, have you?

I think hiding behind roleplay is suspicious, especially when you're not familiar with the game, which you've indicated you aren't.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:37 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:34 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:45 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:05 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:02 am Those reactions always ring warning bells for me tbh.

“See guys, I can’t be scum. I didn’t even know those scum were chosen yet!!”
sorry, I'd say that about anyone else in the world (I've even said that in this thread about sprityo and sig maybe when they were all huffed and puffed out about not being chosen to be mafia?) but not Kenway. That feigning ignorance sort of thing is just not his style at all. He'll happily deceive you, but this particular kind of manipulation and lying and fake oversighting is not Kenway.

I'd actually say it about a lot of people in the world. I think it looked sincere even without accounting for the personality that is Kenway, and that solidifies it further. Kenway moves from orange to green.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:39 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm So feel free to suspect me JaggedJimmyJay at your will.
k, let's lynch JJJ Day 1. His holier-than-thou shtick is tiresome.
You haven't met many paladins, have you?
I think hiding behind roleplay is suspicious, especially when you're not familiar with the game, which you've indicated you aren't.

1. "Hiding behind roleplay is suspicious" is probably the most frequently wrong suspicion I have seen in my Mafia life, so bah humbug at that bullshit.

2. I have no idea about Fire Emblem, but paladins are in a ton of different fictional realms. I spent a long time playing one in Dungeons and Dragons.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:35 pm All of these roles are for NERDS, so who cares!

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:40 pm**

I feel sorry for the townies who get assigned to Badguyia. You guys are doomed with a microsope. I wouldn't be surprised when scum people (probably 1) claim they are from Badguyia to win points. I'm watching.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm So feel free to suspect me JaggedJimmyJay at your will.
k, let's lynch JJJ Day 1. His holier-than-thou shtick is tiresome.
You haven't met many paladins, have you?
I think hiding behind roleplay is suspicious, especially when you're not familiar with the game, which you've indicated you aren't.
1. "Hiding behind roleplay is suspicious" is probably the most frequently wrong suspicion I have seen in my Mafia life, so bah humbug at that bullshit.

Jay doesn't agree with it, so it must be wrong!

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm**

yeah kenway’s reaction was sincere imo, maybe cos my thoughts were p much identical but he posted first so i didn’t bother to say anything

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm Jay doesn't agree with it, so it must be wrong!

No, it's more like this:

"Jay has seen that accusation hurled 500 times across tons of games, and it very rarely amounts to anything useful."

Roleplay is fun. Civilians like to have fun too. And the notion of "hiding" is the issue. Am I hiding at all? So often players feature real content in their roleplay, and others ignore or overlook it because they don't look past the surface appearance.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm Jay doesn't agree with it, so it must be wrong!
No, it's more like this:

"Jay has seen that accusation hurled 500 times across tons of games, and it very rarely amounts to anything useful."

Roleplay is fun. Civilians like to have fun too. And the notion of "hiding" is the issue. Am I hiding at all? So often players feature real content in their roleplay, and others ignore or overlook it because they don't look past the surface appearance.

My point was that it's much easier for scum to hide behind roleplay.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm**

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:53 pm Don't fucking NK me.

rabbit's smarmy call to avoid night kills was the post right before the draft began, meaning the mafia team had been selected. It was his first post and the only one he made that day. I call WIFOM.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:47 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm My point was that it's much easier for scum to hide behind roleplay.

Okay. So am I scum?

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:51 pm**

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm yeah kenway’s reaction was sincere imo, maybe cos my thoughts were p much identical but he posted first so i didn’t bother to say anything

Can you clarify exactly which thoughts you had which were identical to Kenway's?

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:31 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:24 pm Rdw is clearly LeBron.
http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_ ... n_love.htm

Poor marmot, living in RDW's shadow.

He should be pleased to live in my shadow. Prime real estate

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:47 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm My point was that it's much easier for scum to hide behind roleplay.
Okay. So am I scum?

you're capable of stabbing me in the back, so I haven't made a final decision yet

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm**

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:17 am Just like on RYM, rundontwalk is posting like a madman aka #ballstothewall. And dunya can't wait to start digging around in everyone's post histories.
Hey Dwarf, what do these observations mean to you as it pertains to those two players' alignments?
There was no particular judgment made here. It's their M.O. every game basically.

Also, this will be my last post for Sunday probably.

Dwarf loses a point for saying things just to say things.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm**

JJJ doesn't look the super town JJj I know

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:54 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm Jay doesn't agree with it, so it must be wrong!
No, it's more like this:

"Jay has seen that accusation hurled 500 times across tons of games, and it very rarely amounts to anything useful."

Roleplay is fun. Civilians like to have fun too. And the notion of "hiding" is the issue. Am I hiding at all? So often players feature real content in their roleplay, and others ignore or overlook it because they don't look past the surface appearance.
My point was that it's much easier for scum to hide behind roleplay.

Do you think JJJ is hiding? If so, why?

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:51 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm yeah kenway’s reaction was sincere imo, maybe cos my thoughts were p much identical but he posted first so i didn’t bother to say anything
Can you clarify exactly which thoughts you had which were identical to Kenway's?

i thought scum team recruit would happen during drafting, not before it

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 pm**

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm JJJ doesn't look the super town JJj I know

That's probably right, old man. You don't even know me anymore.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:57 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:54 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm Jay doesn't agree with it, so it must be wrong!
No, it's more like this:

"Jay has seen that accusation hurled 500 times across tons of games, and it very rarely amounts to anything useful."

Roleplay is fun. Civilians like to have fun too. And the notion of "hiding" is the issue. Am I hiding at all? So often players feature real content in their roleplay, and others ignore or overlook it because they don't look past the surface appearance.
My point was that it's much easier for scum to hide behind roleplay.
Do you think JJJ is hiding? If so, why?

Does this JJJ look like supertown civ JJJ to you? He's allowed me to take the front seat. Even Kyle has more posts than him. I want to say he's hiding and he's scum, but he wouldn't be that obvious and I don't think there's much to hide on Day fucking 0 still which has felt like a week already. Hopefully calling out his wackiness will help us see what JJJ is up to this game and having a better read on him.

also, I'm acting salty about Mortal Kombat which just ended so I'm giving him some shit.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:59 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 pm
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm JJJ doesn't look the super town JJj I know
That's probably right, old man. You don't even know me anymore.

I wouldn't say your play style has changed that significantly from late era RYM games. It's the same general gist, just more condensed, more assertive, more out there, and 2x more posts.

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:00 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:57 pm Does this JJJ look like supertown civ JJJ to you? He's allowed me to take the front seat. Even Kyle has more posts than him. I want to say he's hiding and he's scum, but he wouldn't be that obvious and I don't think there's much to hide on Day fucking 0 still which has felt like a week already. Hopefully calling out his wackiness will help us see what JJJ is up to this game and having a better read on him.

also, I'm acting salty about Mortal Kombat which just ended so I'm giving him some shit.

I haven't "allowed" you to take the front seat. You took it by force. If you keep posting at this rate then I am never going to lead the thread in posts even if I want to.

Y'all rue the day you're ever perceived to be so prolific that having 70 posts on Day 0 is "hiding".

Posted: **Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:01 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:00 pm I haven't "allowed" you to take the front seat. You took it by force. If you keep posting at this rate then I am never going to lead the thread in posts even if I want to.

challenge accepted.

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