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[MacDougall]

Lol

[MacDougall]

I am 75 Speedchuck 25 Dunya

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck is playing tighter. More clever. That's why I think it's him.

[Lunalee]

i guess speed is the only other person in the poe who i haven't isod yet, and since we have a 3 day day, i'm sure i'll get around to it. but i'd rather lynch mac first if he doesn't feel like attempting to solve at the game. i have felt better about dizzy after our exchange. i know daisy is town. i feel like luna is town. so that puts the 3 quin voters out of my poe now. speed would be the lynch after mac, i guess.

I don't like this line of reasoning. We should lynch Mac if we think he's bad. Not because "he's not trying to solve the game." It just sort of makes it look like you know Mac is going to flip town, and you're making an excuse for lynching him anyways.

[dunya]

Speedchuck is playing tighter. More clever. That's why I think it's him.

fuck it, Yolo. I've been fooled by him in pirates mafia I wont let him bully me into submission here

[dunya]

i guess speed is the only other person in the poe who i haven't isod yet, and since we have a 3 day day, i'm sure i'll get around to it. but i'd rather lynch mac first if he doesn't feel like attempting to solve at the game. i have felt better about dizzy after our exchange. i know daisy is town. i feel like luna is town. so that puts the 3 quin voters out of my poe now. speed would be the lynch after mac, i guess.

I don't like this line of reasoning. We should lynch Mac if we think he's bad. Not because "he's not trying to solve the game." It just sort of makes it look like you know Mac is going to flip town, and you're making an excuse for lynching him anyways.

You're reading that out of context. I'm saying I have a reason to town read everyone else and if Mac isn't giving me a reason and doesn't want to play, then I have no excuse not to lynch him. Does that make sense to you?

[dunya]

If mac was scum right now he would have pushed for my lynch, not speeds. I'm almost 100 percent sure of that.

[dunya]

If mac fooled me, I'll put a signature that says Mac is a better mafia player than me till the end of the year cos this day phase wifom is huge. And i fucking hate signatures.

[dunya]

Could everyone please review Dunya?

Myself, Dunya, and Mac are the only ones who didn't vote Quin to save him left alive. We have two lynches. This should be the easiest thing in the world, but why not get it right the first time?

Setting my mislynch up today so of course next day phase everyone will go back to Mac whereas lynching Mac today wont guarantee speed a win next day phase when the poe becomes thinner and thinner.

[dunya]

WTF are you doing, Dunya?

Preemptively discrediting Macdougall's read of you in case he reads you bad.

Uhhh no. Try again. I said when me and mac are both town he always reads me wrong (And calls me scum). I didn't discredit his read in case he called me bad. Very reaching tho.

[dunya]

Oh, add to that D. Trying to convince Mac that he's scum.

You said you're trying to 'convince yourself', but that means that either you DON'T think he's scum and you're lynching him anyways, or you KNOW he's not scum and you're putting on a show.

How do I know this?

Because you didn't do this to Turbup Head when he was in the same position with the same attitude.

Oh dear God

HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SURE OF A LYNCH WHEN IT INVOLVES SOMEONE WITH ALMOST NO REAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE GAME?

I'm pretty sure other townies won't see what I did the same way you did when you're sure of his towniness cos you're scum.

of course I didn't have to convince myself about Turnip the same way since I had reasons and posts to analyse and connections I could make. Mac was like a complete null read.

[dunya]

If you're town speed, I hope you take this game as a lesson to not tunnel me for a whole game. If you're scum, bye.

[MacDougall]

I was about to write all that stuff dunya just wrote

[MacDougall]

The difference between speedchuck and dunya during this period is quite simple.

Dunya is playing fast and loose. She thought she had her scum, and has the game won and she wasn't focused on tomorrow.

Speedchuck is playing tight and controlled. He knows he doesn't have the game won and was focusing on discrediting Dunya for tomorrow.

Speedchuck has been playing really tight and controlled all game from what I can see. Dunya has been loosey goosey. Dunya isn't considered a great civ because she doesn't make mistakes as a civ, she isn't Jay. She is a great civ because of her intuition. She always attracts suspicion and plays loose. This is a typical Dunya civ game.

[speedchuck]

WTF are you doing, Dunya?

Preemptively discrediting Macdougall's read of you in case he reads you bad.

Uhhh no. Try again. I said when me and mac are both town he always reads me wrong (And calls me scum). I didn't discredit his read in case he called me bad. Very reaching tho.

This is what I just said you did

[dunya]

damn it Mac, don't be so agreeable. It scares me. We've never agreed in our mafia lives.

[dunya]

The difference between speedchuck and dunya during this period is quite simple.

Dunya is playing fast and loose. She thought she had her scum, and has the game won and she wasn't focused on tomorrow.

Speedchuck is playing tight and controlled. He knows he doesn't have the game won and was focusing on discrediting Dunya for tomorrow.

Speedchuck has been playing really tight and controlled all game from what I can see. Dunya has been loosey goosey. Dunya isn't considered a great civ because she doesn't make mistakes as a civ, she isn't Jay. She is a great civ because of her intuition. She always attracts suspicion and plays loose. This is a typical Dunya civ game.

Yes. Please take a look especially in his iso when he tried to set me up for his "dunya scum slipped" and what his intentions look like. That day 1 eod you'd think speed had a town read on me in some posts yet his vote didn't budge since he had no where to move it without jeopardizing Quin.

[speedchuck]

Mac is sitting here convincing me to townread Dunya even though I can't help but see scum motivation every time I try to townread her.

Lynch me first if you guys want. If it's going to be mac, then me, I'd rather it be me first because I feel like the townier of the two of you would prevail. If that's the case, I hope spacedaisy predicts the kill again so they can off the both of you.

[speedchuck]

The difference between speedchuck and dunya during this period is quite simple.

Dunya is playing fast and loose. She thought she had her scum, and has the game won and she wasn't focused on tomorrow.

Speedchuck is playing tight and controlled. He knows he doesn't have the game won and was focusing on discrediting Dunya for tomorrow.

Speedchuck has been playing really tight and controlled all game from what I can see. Dunya has been loosey goosey. Dunya isn't considered a great civ because she doesn't make mistakes as a civ, she isn't Jay. She is a great civ because of her intuition. She always attracts suspicion and plays loose. This is a typical Dunya civ game.

Yes. Please take a look especially in his iso when he tried to set me up for his "dunya scum slipped" and what his intentions look like.

I don't think it's scummy to try to get someone to scumslip.

[MacDougall]

I also think if you iso Quin and look at his interactions with speedchuck vs. dunya it's really quite obvious that speedchuck is his partner.

Like this is effectively the entirety of his interactions with and/or commentary on speedchuck.

'\_( ' _ ' )_/'

I hope Nova shows.

speedchuck is bad because this was rude as heck

A bad person, maybe. Town has bad peoples in 'em.

JOKE TELL

My vote isn't for you or TH. You and Luna as scum mates don't both jump onto a suggestion to No Lynch. If I were to vote right now, it'd be Luna over you because you had a PoE within 3 posts and her biggest contribution so far is "I voted TH because he said something". I make these exaggerations without fact checking because I am lazy.

speedchuck said No Lynches are "bad bad bad bad" -- what do you make of that in the whole "people who oppose no lynches could be bad" pile?

pp
He said it after I initially called you both out but before I went full tirade. It'd be hard not to know what I said since we had so little content then, so it's more like he made a conscious decision to say it despite the fact it'd likely earn him scrutiny from me. That would probably make him the least suspicious of the three of you in a vacuum.

The first is totally weird scumlike interaction. The latter basically clears dunya and buries speedchuck at the same time imo.

Compare it with his dunya content. Dunya hassled him and he did not like it. Take a peek for yourself. search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sr=posts&t=16 ... only&ch=-1

[MacDougall]

Mac is sitting here convincing me to townread Dunya even though I can't help but see scum motivation every time I try to townread her.

Lynch me first if you guys want. If it's going to be mac, then me, I'd rather it be me first because I feel like the townier of the two of you would prevail. If that's the case, I hope spacedaisy predicts the kill again so they can off the both of you.

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

[MacDougall]

Dunya is here emitting nervous energy. Speedchuck playing steadfast and true. Dunya is uninformed, speedchuck is. One is a townie and one is not.

[Lunalee]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] idk, Quin calling Speedchuck the "least suspicious" looks pretty bad for speed.

My vote isn't for you or TH. You and Luna as scum mates don't both jump onto a suggestion to No Lynch. If I were to vote right now, it'd be Luna over you because you had a PoE within 3 posts and her biggest contribution so far is "I voted TH because he said something". I make these exaggerations without fact checking because I am lazy.

speedchuck said No Lynches are "bad bad bad bad" -- what do you make of that in the whole "people who oppose no lynches could be bad" pile?

pp
He said it after I initially called you both out but before I went full tirade. It'd be hard not to know what I said since we had so little content then, so it's more like he made a conscious decision to say it despite the fact it'd likely earn him scrutiny from me. That would probably make him the least suspicious of the three of you in a vacuum.

[speedchuck]

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

If she is town and you are scum, then she has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever.

Now I'm gonna push my townie self-destruct button that I push in every game because apparently being a good townie and actually hunting makes me look scummy.

[dunya]

I don't think it's scummy to try to get someone to scumslip.

First example I am reminded of is LC in UPick when he tried to push the narrative of my alleged scum slip again. He was bad, I was town.

[speedchuck]

*votes*

I know what you all will say, and I don't care at all. Pile the votes on me and check and see if the mod will end the day early. Then you two can fight it out.

Mac is probably scum. Dunya deserves to be lynched. Whichever you pick tomorrow, I'm happy.

[Lunalee]

*votes*

I know what you all will say, and I don't care at all. Pile the votes on me and check and see if the mod will end the day early. Then you two can fight it out.

Mac is probably scum. Dunya deserves to be lynched. Whichever you pick tomorrow, I'm happy.

That's sort of rude.

[dunya]

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

If she is town and you are scum, then she has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever.

Alright I'm going to bed now.

Yknow and also stop tunnelling people if you are town. I was convinced dizzy was bad, he made counter arguments and I reconsidered. Tunnelling gets you no where and blaming the townie who you are tunnelling for playing a scummy game so it's all their fault isn't fair either.

[dunya]

Self voting. Ugh. I wish I could get a replacement now.

[speedchuck]

*votes*

I know what you all will say, and I don't care at all. Pile the votes on me and check and see if the mod will end the day early. Then you two can fight it out.

Mac is probably scum. Dunya deserves to be lynched. Whichever you pick tomorrow, I'm happy.

That's sort of rude.

Thanks for saying this BTW. I deleted the other post I had up.

[speedchuck]

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

If she is town and you are scum, then she has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever.

Alright I'm going to bed now.

Yknow and also stop tunnelling people if you are town. I was convinced dizzy was bad, he made counter arguments and I reconsidered. Tunnelling gets you no where and blaming the townie who you are tunnelling for playing a scummy game so it's all their fault isn't fair either.

It's not a tunnel. I've been trying to reconsider you the whole game.

Sorry if you feel like getting replaced. Just ride it out, Lynch mac, and win either way.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall idk, Quin calling Speedchuck the "least suspicious" looks pretty bad for speed.

My vote isn't for you or TH. You and Luna as scum mates don't both jump onto a suggestion to No Lynch. If I were to vote right now, it'd be Luna over you because you had a PoE within 3 posts and her biggest contribution so far is "I voted TH because he said something". I make these exaggerations without fact checking because I am lazy.

speedchuck said No Lynches are "bad bad bad bad" -- what do you make of that in the whole "people who oppose no lynches could be bad" pile?

pp
He said it after I initially called you both out but before I went full tirade. It'd be hard not to know what I said since we had so little content then, so it's more like he made a conscious decision to say it despite the fact it'd likely earn him scrutiny from me. That would probably make him the least suspicious of the three of you in a vacuum.

[speedchuck]

I would kill for hammer-lynches to be a thing, holy crap.

[speedchuck]

I wonder who here was in Hogwarts and was like "Speed is playing all cool and collected, he must be scum"

[dunya]

Deleting posts isn't okay tbh.

[Lunalee]

Deleting posts isn't okay tbh.

I think he meant the post he had typed out, but not posted yet.

[dunya]

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

If she is town and you are scum, then she has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever.

Alright I'm going to bed now.

Yknow and also stop tunnelling people if you are town. I was convinced dizzy was bad, he made counter arguments and I reconsidered. Tunnelling gets you no where and blaming the townie who you are tunnelling for playing a scummy game so it's all their fault isn't fair either.

It's not a tunnel. I've been trying to reconsider you the whole game.

Sorry if you feel like getting replaced. Just ride it out, Lynch mac, and win either way.

Then how would you like it if I called you an awful town player for being unable to see a townie me?

I feel uncomfortable in this game now.

[speedchuck]

Deleting posts isn't okay tbh.

I think he meant the post he had typed out, but not posted yet.

Aye. I had another diss track all ready to submit, but didn't do it.

If you want, I can prolly find it in my internet browser history.

[speedchuck]

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

If she is town and you are scum, then she has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever.

Alright I'm going to bed now.

Yknow and also stop tunnelling people if you are town. I was convinced dizzy was bad, he made counter arguments and I reconsidered. Tunnelling gets you no where and blaming the townie who you are tunnelling for playing a scummy game so it's all their fault isn't fair either.

It's not a tunnel. I've been trying to reconsider you the whole game.

Sorry if you feel like getting replaced. Just ride it out, Lynch mac, and win either way.

Then how would you like it if I called you an awful town player for being unable to see a townie me?

I feel uncomfortable in this game now.

I'd own it, I guess. Sorry.

[MacDougall]

Self voting. Ugh. I wish I could get a replacement now.

You are allowing yourself to be manipulated by a player whose responsibility to the game is to manipulate you. Don't.

[Lunalee]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] what do you think about Quin saying you looked the least suspicious out of you, dunya, and myself for the no-lynch thing?

[speedchuck]

@speedchuck what do you think about Quin saying you looked the least suspicious out of you, dunya, and myself for the no-lynch thing?

Clearly, it means we're teammates.

I think everyone looked equally non-suspicious because that was a fake-read scum tactic that ended up getting Quin lynched.

[Lunalee]

@speedchuck what do you think about Quin saying you looked the least suspicious out of you, dunya, and myself for the no-lynch thing?

Clearly, it means we're teammates.

I think everyone looked equally non-suspicious because that was a fake-read scum tactic that ended up getting Quin lynched.

lol

[MacDougall]

I am not trying to convince you to town read dunya. If you can't see a townie in her fast and loose game, interactions with quin and initial refusal to let me hunt then you aren't actually trying to, nor do I expect you to, given you are the last Mafia and need her to be bad to win.

If she is town and you are scum, then she has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever.

Now I'm gonna push my townie self-destruct button that I push in every game because apparently being a good townie and actually hunting makes me look scummy.

[speedchuck]

Oh wait now Dunya's self voted as well.

Now I just feel bad.

TFW town lynches the (probably) only active baddie day one and it results in a town pity party. What is even going on with this game.

[speedchuck]

I didn't even vote Dunya today. I was just tinfoiling. JUST TINFOILING!

[MacDougall]

Town Dunya reaches a point in all of her games in which she "has played the scummiest town game I have ever seen in my entire life. Period. Ever."

Scum dunya is basically waterproof.

I know it's weird reasoning but it's not unique to her. Mafia are careful, they proof read posts, they think in steps ahead.

Is it possible that it's neither? Yes. Day 1 bussing ones only teammate for cred is possible. Stupid, but possible. I put it at like 2 percent.

I am pretty confident that it's the chuck.

[Lunalee]

Oh wait now Dunya's self voted as well.

Now I just feel bad.

TFW town lynches the (probably) only active baddie day one and it results in a town pity party. What is even going on with this game.

Everyone's taking it too seriously. If you're here to play mafia, expect to be suspected. The whole point of the game is to throw accusations around until you figure out which one is right. I don't like it that you and dunya are self-voting. It's like a protest against the game.

[speedchuck]

Speedchuck is playing tighter. More clever. That's why I think it's him.

BTW thank you but also

[speedchuck]

Oh wait now Dunya's self voted as well.

Now I just feel bad.

TFW town lynches the (probably) only active baddie day one and it results in a town pity party. What is even going on with this game.

Everyone's taking it too seriously. If you're here to play mafia, expect to be suspected. The whole point of the game is to throw accusations around until you figure out which one is right. I don't like it that you and dunya are self-voting. It's like a protest against the game.

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