The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:45 pm I'm voting Lunalee.

How come?

I can smell the mafia emanating from her. It smells like mildewed lemongrass and pickles.

As good a reason as any

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:45 pm I'm voting Lunalee.

How come?

I can smell the mafia emanating from her. It smells like mildewed lemongrass and pickles.

As good a reason as any

Excellent. Now take your vote off me you filthy animal.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:45 pm I'm voting Lunalee.

How come?

I can smell the mafia emanating from her. It smells like mildewed lemongrass and pickles.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:45 pm I'm voting Lunalee.

How come?

I can smell the mafia emanating from her. It smells like mildewed lemongrass and pickles.

So Epi, I am used to reasons like this from you but I have to ask anyway - is there anything about her posts that makes you suspect her?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:01 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:04 pm Morning all, I'm in bed surrounded by cats. So far today is good.

That sounds lovely. But it also sounds like how a villain would start their day.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:41 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:36 pm timmer's last post before this one quoted below was over three hours prior:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

That's 3:19pm EST.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

That's 3:20pm EST.

Of all the things timmer could have commented on in that window, why that?

And then the punchline:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:33 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

This reeks of a teammate interaction to me.

Rej putting fellow civilian in quotes looks so bad, that there's no way he's actually teammates with timmer

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 pm @Creature why are you voting TonyStarkPrime? yout vote gave me sheepy vibes
is there a reason why you wanna get a big wagon running? why so eager?

I voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

ew. This reeks

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52 am Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

Yo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

lol

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

it was the wagon that looked less bad. Also I almost didn't get a vote placed in time, so not much thought went into it.

Creature
4

Voters: Dyslexicon, Quin, nutella, Epignosis

Rej
5

Voters: Dragomir, timmer, Dom, juliets, Lunalee

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 pm @Creature why are you voting TonyStarkPrime? yout vote gave me sheepy vibes
is there a reason why you wanna get a big wagon running? why so eager?

I voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

ew. This reeks

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:01 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

it was the wagon that looked less bad. Also I almost didn't get a vote placed in time, so not much thought went into it.

What was the difference between it and the others?

I think the other train was Creature, and I had no idea why they were leading the poll.

If I had remembered they were the ones who I thought looked bad I would have joined that wagon.

I did remember reg making a sketchy post though, which is why I voted there.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:43 pm So anyone thinks me correctly declaring Rej town but failing to save him to be scum?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:04 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:43 pm So anyone thinks me correctly declaring Rej town but failing to save him to be scum?

Nobody cares.

What's your opinion of Lunalee?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:12 am Is that you scum sig? Been a while.

Mac probably town so maybe of the cluster Epi scum? hmmm I need to keep reading.

Also, who is more likely to kill Dizzy when scum? Is there a tell for that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:15 pm Let's lynch Epi

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:21 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:07 pm RIP dizzy, and guess I can't read sig for shit. I like owner's "cluster" theory and think Mac is town; would be willing to lynch epi for sure.

I don’t like this.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:02 pm Wow Epi I did make you work. Appreciate the insight though.

@Lunalee I would like to hear what you have to say about Epi's points.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:08 pm Jack isn't being funny. He's bad.

You sometimes read people on humor too? or was that a joke?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:24 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:08 pm Jack isn't being funny. He's bad.

You sometimes read people on humor too? or was that a joke?

Be very careful how you answer this...

I agree with the observations on Epi, and Epi's Lunalee case is also convincing. I could see them being i/w.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am I am proposing a Lunalee / Creature / Michelle team.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:22 am I'm having one bourbon and then going to bed. I'll be busy tomorrow, as I have a guitar lesson to give and baseball stuff to do. If you're available now, let's go.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am I am proposing a Lunalee / Creature / Michelle team.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

What is a "deserved civ card," who gets to hand them out, and who gets to determine what is deserved and who is the best?

And what makes a scholarship more valuable than candy?

So many questions.

Most importantly is this one: Why does it bother you that people are calling other people civilians so fast?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:09 pm

Rej wrote:why you voting timmer now, you just pointed out he and me could be team mates

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:14 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:10 pm This: "does it mean that this are mostly civillians jumping over to look and make right decisions or could it be baddies who approach to save someone?"

This: "On the other side I don't know if mafia profits from mislynching Dragomir, when Dragomir approaches me or other people agressively. "

This: "I heard nutella can perform far more impressive"

The first two statements have a real calculation behind them. I don't think a civ would care this much about trying to define the makeup of a Lynch train. It's day 1. Stuff happens and we vote. But why worry about how a mislynch would look? A civ shouldn't care how a Lynch would look to baddies at all, and a civ seems less likely to use the term mislynch here because a civ rej doesn't know what drag is.

The third statement makes me wonder about btsc.


So I'm staying put.

I disagree myself. I think Rej is just awkward in his wording. Think I remember that from the game he was miller (town) as well. I also feel that him insisting that "Drag should read me town" is truthful. I hear town say that much more than scum.

This is my largest caveat with Rej- the wording of his posts is gauche, such that I have trouble interpreting them as coming from a schemer. Maybe Rej isn't a schemer. I don't know.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am I am proposing a Lunalee / Creature / Michelle team.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:48 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:06 am The most useful thing to do at this point, I suppose, would be to ask what we would be doing if Rej was not on the poll.

This actually makes me feel a bit suspicious of you... it's like, an easy standard thing to say to earn your "Productive Civ" badge. I don't even think this is your usual MO. This sounds like a Sloonei/JJJ kind of thing. Not an Epi thing. You're bad. No one will believe that. Oh well, at least your wit is sharp. Maybe suspiciously sharp.

I figured there would be a punch line in there somewhere.

Did I earn my "Productive Civ" badge, LC?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:07 pm I don't see either one as "more likely" bad, as I said I considered them teammates at the time I made my accusation. I'm keeping an open mind until Saturday.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:13 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

it was the wagon that looked less bad. Also I almost didn't get a vote placed in time, so not much thought went into it.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:56 pm

Res plz! =p

Good luck, town!

oh. RIP Dizzy

Gut read: fake.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:10 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

What is a "deserved civ card," who gets to hand them out, and who gets to determine what is deserved and who is the best?

And what makes a scholarship more valuable than candy?

So many questions.

Most importantly is this one: Why does it bother you that people are calling other people civilians so fast?

This post gives me bad vibes. The Drago post also gives me bad vibes. Lots of bad vibes.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:41 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:10 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

What is a "deserved civ card," who gets to hand them out, and who gets to determine what is deserved and who is the best?

And what makes a scholarship more valuable than candy?

So many questions.

Most importantly is this one: Why does it bother you that people are calling other people civilians so fast?

This post gives me bad vibes. The Drago post also gives me bad vibes. Lots of bad vibes.

I think it's a very Epi post, the Drago post is alarming though

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am I am proposing a Lunalee / Creature / Michelle team.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am I am proposing a Lunalee / Creature / Michelle team.

Oh man this will be good.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:18 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:14 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:10 pm This: "does it mean that this are mostly civillians jumping over to look and make right decisions or could it be baddies who approach to save someone?"

This: "On the other side I don't know if mafia profits from mislynching Dragomir, when Dragomir approaches me or other people agressively. "

This: "I heard nutella can perform far more impressive"

The first two statements have a real calculation behind them. I don't think a civ would care this much about trying to define the makeup of a Lynch train. It's day 1. Stuff happens and we vote. But why worry about how a mislynch would look? A civ shouldn't care how a Lynch would look to baddies at all, and a civ seems less likely to use the term mislynch here because a civ rej doesn't know what drag is.

The third statement makes me wonder about btsc.


So I'm staying put.

I disagree myself. I think Rej is just awkward in his wording. Think I remember that from the game he was miller (town) as well. I also feel that him insisting that "Drag should read me town" is truthful. I hear town say that much more than scum.

This is my largest caveat with Rej- the wording of his posts is gauche, such that I have trouble interpreting them as coming from a schemer. Maybe Rej isn't a schemer. I don't know.

A nice last second townread on Rej coming after some more pointed arguments throughout the day. Epi pushed comparatively hard for a lynch there and mentioned Creature, as far as I can tell, once. Then voted for Creature.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:15 am I'm not convinced epi is town from it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:22 am

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:54 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:45 pm I'm voting Lunalee.

How come?

I can smell the mafia emanating from her. It smells like mildewed lemongrass and pickles.

So Epi, I am used to reasons like this from you but I have to ask anyway - is there anything about her posts that makes you suspect her?

Ya making me work, juliets.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:01 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:04 pm Morning all, I'm in bed surrounded by cats. So far today is good.

That sounds lovely. But it also sounds like how a villain would start their day.

This is the first thing that even remotely looks like a suspicion from Lunalee.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:41 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:36 pm timmer's last post before this one quoted below was over three hours prior:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

That's 3:19pm EST.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

That's 3:20pm EST.

Of all the things timmer could have commented on in that window, why that?

And then the punchline:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:33 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

This reeks of a teammate interaction to me.

Rej putting fellow civilian in quotes looks so bad, that there's no way he's actually teammates with timmer

No way? We know that now.

Anyway, it's a second mention of timmer.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 pm @Creature why are you voting TonyStarkPrime? yout vote gave me sheepy vibes
is there a reason why you wanna get a big wagon running? why so eager?

I voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

ew. This reeks

Creature reeks, right?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52 am Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

Yo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

lol

Dizzy's dead now, in case you missed it.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

it was the wagon that looked less bad. Also I almost didn't get a vote placed in time, so not much thought went into it.

Waiting until the last minute to vote: Stuff Mafia do.
Voting for someone without ever suspecting that person: Stuff Mafia do.
Saving the guy you said you suspected by lynching the guy you never said you did: Stuff wait what? Did that actually happen?

Holy yes it did.

Creature
4

Voters: Dyslexicon, Quin, nutella, Epignosis

Rej
5

Voters: Dragomir, timmer, Dom, juliets, Lunalee

Creature had four votes. At the last minute, Lunalee voted Rej, even though:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 pm @Creature why are you voting TonyStarkPrime? yout vote gave me sheepy vibes
is there a reason why you wanna get a big wagon running? why so eager?

I voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

ew. This reeks

Maybe there's an explanation for this.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:01 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:32 pm lol

Indeed. Care to explain your vote on Rej?

it was the wagon that looked less bad. Also I almost didn't get a vote placed in time, so not much thought went into it.

What was the difference between it and the others?

I think the other train was Creature, and I had no idea why they were leading the poll.

If I had remembered they were the ones who I thought looked bad I would have joined that wagon.

I did remember reg making a sketchy post though, which is why I voted there.

This is impressive and also ostensibly exactly what I’d expect from whatever image of town Epi I felt hadn’t been upheld. I’m not sure how compelling the case actually is though. I don’t think voting late is scummy, I don’t think voting for the person you didn’t voice suspicion for is scummy. Because I think scum try harder to appear authentic in general. Obviously it plays well as exactly Creature/Luna w/w but outside of that it doesn’t make sense.
And as Creature/Luna w/w that’s some heavy distancing to then not take the easy bus opportunity.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:24 am I won’t be judging Tony based on that post alone. He was crafty as hell in Fallout.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:24 am Why are you singling me out wty that question, @Creature?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:24 am I won’t be judging Tony based on that post alone. He was crafty as hell in Fallout.

doesn't look very crafty here however.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:44 am Dragon D. Luffy

Can you update the player list with flips please?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:44 am Dragon D. Luffy

Can you update the player list with flips please?

I did that yesterday?