The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:20 pm Nobody told me this had started.

Does that make me town?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:45 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:11 am I don't care how you view my post and whether it's bad or not. I'm completely transparent and I give my view on everything so that town can recognize me. On day one it's not about being right, because it's day one. Your first priority should be to act town, because that's your fucking job. If town recognizes town, you lock wolves into a box that they can't get out of. In truth, it's really hard lynching scum on day one. That's not really my objective. I want to get town read and help people narrow their PoE by reading me correctly, thus, increasing their chances of lynching scum.

I wasn’t addressing you but wow defensive much?

Also where I come from we kill scum on D1 something like 60% of the time, so.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:52 pm ET not self pressing is NAI, he should do it as either alignment. Not doing it just means he wasn’t around to—almost certainly an NAI situation.

In general not voting is not very relevant to alignment in a vacuum.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:37 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:59 pm If et is scum which I think he is, then TSP is probably the second one. So I don’t agree with that read. But in rest, I could settle for the other reads.

This is heavily dependent on et’s flip, but if he’s mafia...What would a mafia do in this situation, KNOWING that et is the president. Well, they’d set up wagons, just like in a normal setup. But they don’t really have to be too aggressive.

Look at those wagons, it’s perfect for et’s president scenario. 3 people on a tie with him. Et is already buried in evidence against him. Actively fighting against his lynch is useless. But mafia can place their votes on people like...Long, for example.

At this point, I’d clear nova as being town / sk. Probably sprit as well. Epi is locked town for me, we agree on a lot of stuff and he’s just bleeding town. Sabie, although probably a bad take, I feel like is thread spewed at this point. Especially if et is mafia. Dom town. Creature town. Rej town. Mac town.

TSP scum, Nanook / enrique scum , Et scum

If I were mafia with a president ET I almost certainly would’ve pushed a wagon to 3 instead of banking on him winning a tiebreaker he never should win.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:29 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:20 pm Nobody told me this had started.

Does that make me town?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:45 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:11 am I don't care how you view my post and whether it's bad or not. I'm completely transparent and I give my view on everything so that town can recognize me. On day one it's not about being right, because it's day one. Your first priority should be to act town, because that's your fucking job. If town recognizes town, you lock wolves into a box that they can't get out of. In truth, it's really hard lynching scum on day one. That's not really my objective. I want to get town read and help people narrow their PoE by reading me correctly, thus, increasing their chances of lynching scum.

I wasn’t addressing you but wow defensive much?

Also where I come from we kill scum on D1 something like 60% of the time, so.

This is just an example of the Tex/Nanook thing, the more I read it isolated the more I think its just massive culture clash and NAI.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:52 pm ET not self pressing is NAI, he should do it as either alignment. Not doing it just means he wasn’t around to—almost certainly an NAI situation.

In general not voting is not very relevant to alignment in a vacuum.

Agree here, but Nanook hard bussed teammates last game so even if ET flips it isn't super relevant which is why i find this post interesting.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:37 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:59 pm If et is scum which I think he is, then TSP is probably the second one. So I don’t agree with that read. But in rest, I could settle for the other reads.

This is heavily dependent on et’s flip, but if he’s mafia...What would a mafia do in this situation, KNOWING that et is the president. Well, they’d set up wagons, just like in a normal setup. But they don’t really have to be too aggressive.

Look at those wagons, it’s perfect for et’s president scenario. 3 people on a tie with him. Et is already buried in evidence against him. Actively fighting against his lynch is useless. But mafia can place their votes on people like...Long, for example.

At this point, I’d clear nova as being town / sk. Probably sprit as well. Epi is locked town for me, we agree on a lot of stuff and he’s just bleeding town. Sabie, although probably a bad take, I feel like is thread spewed at this point. Especially if et is mafia. Dom town. Creature town. Rej town. Mac town.

TSP scum, Nanook / enrique scum , Et scum

If I were mafia with a president ET I almost certainly would’ve pushed a wagon to 3 instead of banking on him winning a tiebreaker he never should win.

I'm not sure this is trustworthy meta and that pings me.


Overall I'd not wanna lynch Nanook right off the bat, but he's done a few things that are eyebrow raising then alot of arguing with Tex which after looking it over is kinda NAI.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:16 pm Someone give me a reason to townread Sprityo

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:59 pm Also i like to think mafia assumed tony was one of sleazy Martinez or bender after reading my discussion last night to which I should apologize to tony for implying that on him

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:29 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:59 pm Also i like to think mafia assumed tony was one of sleazy Martinez or bender after reading my discussion last night to which I should apologize to tony for implying that on him

That could be a possibility. I looked through Tony's ISO to maybe get a feel for why they chose him and there really isn't much there. It seemed like he mostly was accusing rej and sort of accused therealet but didn't vote for either of them and he made a lot of vague comments like I think this because reasons.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:29 pm
Overall I'd not wanna lynch Nanook right off the bat, but he's done a few things that are eyebrow raising then alot of arguing with Tex which after looking it over is kinda NAI.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:13 pm I like to play this game:

Let us assume therealet is bad (as many are).

Who are his teammates and why?

I say [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine because you should know why if you've read my posts.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:13 pm I like to play this game:

Let us assume therealet is bad (as many are).

Who are his teammates and why?

I say [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine because you should know why if you've read my posts.

What about if we’ve only read this one of your posts

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:17 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:13 pm I like to play this game:

Let us assume therealet is bad (as many are).

Who are his teammates and why?

I say [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine because you should know why if you've read my posts.

What about if we’ve only read this one of your posts

Then shame on you.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:24 pm Epi, do you put any merit into my ramblings from last night?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:26 pm Seriously, I'm just trying to keep up.

Link me what you want me to read specifically and I'll give her a close scan.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:19 pm I'm locking Creature Town, any objection? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

linki - oh missed that

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:19 pm I'm locking Creature Town, any objection? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

linki - oh missed that

I think that's a safe bet, unless ET flips civ, which I find doubtful.

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:51 am you guys are so very quick to pull the trigger on any post
scratch having tunnel vision you guys have a hair trigger for any posts made

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:53 am

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:51 am you guys are so very quick to pull the trigger on any post
scratch having tunnel vision you guys have a hair trigger for any posts made

Stop complaining about your predicament and find mafia.

Go.

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:03 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:53 am

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:51 am you guys are so very quick to pull the trigger on any post
scratch having tunnel vision you guys have a hair trigger for any posts made

Stop complaining about your predicament and find mafia.

Go.

im not talking about just me

but besides the point i want to be hanged today anyway

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:03 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:53 am

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:51 am you guys are so very quick to pull the trigger on any post
scratch having tunnel vision you guys have a hair trigger for any posts made

Stop complaining about your predicament and find mafia.

Go.

im not talking about just me

but besides the point i want to be hanged today anyway

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:36 am

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:03 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:53 am

therealet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:51 am you guys are so very quick to pull the trigger on any post
scratch having tunnel vision you guys have a hair trigger for any posts made

Stop complaining about your predicament and find mafia.

Go.

im not talking about just me

but besides the point i want to be hanged today anyway

If you're a civilian, then you suck.

Civilians tough it out and find mafia. You are not doing that. You are mafia.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:13 pm I like to play this game:

Let us assume therealet is bad (as many are).

Who are his teammates and why?

I say [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine because you should know why if you've read my posts.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: ET] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:50 pm While I'm down for an Et lynch I think it's important we continue to discuss and not sit on this. I'll be rereading and ISOing a bit today since I'll admit I didn't do much last phase.

I'll be starting with people who I've got no real read on and ignoring the ones I'm semi confident on.'

[VOTE: ET] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:15 pm I guess no lynch is appearing at every stage for consistency's sake. It usually is an option at MyLo on TS, yet it's never usually a poll option the phases before that.

Just ignore it

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:29 pm Overall I'd not wanna lynch Nanook right off the bat, but he's done a few things that are eyebrow raising then alot of arguing with Tex which after looking it over is kinda NAI.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

@Dom @ Epi

From this post onwards. My discussion with tedexter and tony up until the night ended basically

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:31 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

@Dom @ Epi

From this post onwards. My discussion with tedexter and tony up until the night ended basically

The reason why I doubt your first scenario is that ET seems to be implying he knows why he survived.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:21 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: ET] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:50 pm While I'm down for an Et lynch I think it's important we continue to discuss and not sit on this. I'll be rereading and ISOing a bit today since I'll admit I didn't do much last phase.

I'll be starting with people who I've got no real read on and ignoring the ones I'm semi confident on.'

[VOTE: ET] aubergine

These are bad

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:35 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:21 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: ET] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:50 pm While I'm down for an Et lynch I think it's important we continue to discuss and not sit on this. I'll be rereading and ISOing a bit today since I'll admit I didn't do much last phase.

I'll be starting with people who I've got no real read on and ignoring the ones I'm semi confident on.'

[VOTE: ET] aubergine

These are bad

Why and why don't you think ET is mafia?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:17 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:35 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:21 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: ET] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:50 pm While I'm down for an Et lynch I think it's important we continue to discuss and not sit on this. I'll be rereading and ISOing a bit today since I'll admit I didn't do much last phase.

I'll be starting with people who I've got no real read on and ignoring the ones I'm semi confident on.'

[VOTE: ET] aubergine

These are bad

Why and why don't you think ET is mafia?

The way he's acting to being the main wagon doesn't really feel like scum and also Enrique and Nanook are way worse.