The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:34 am I feel like locking LC in as town.

I feel like you should never lock someone in on Day 1.

Ima try and not be too wild this game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

No promises though

@MacDougall what's Alison's alignment?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

I know I don’t speak for Mac here but JJJ’s read on Nutella is like bad.
He refused to explain why he reads them Town when I legit gave him the only answer that makes sense but he couldn’t even say “Yes” to that.
Feels like he’s trying to pocket Nutella.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

implied town reads on nut and owner

I’d say I’m pretty good at catching pockets.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:18 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

implied town reads on nut and owner

Dude he like straight out full claimed Town read on Nut.
Want me to show you my response he didn’t respond to?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:09 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:02 am Then do that and don't whine when you're in my POE

This post is a great look for JJJ. I think he wouldn't be as blunt and hostile to Mac if he was scum and Mac was town. I could see it as within their wolf-distancing range if I squint, but it still looks unnecessary. Occam's Razor says he's just town and annoyed at Mac's flippancy.

rly

Yes really.

JJJ has no need to provoke you for no reason if he's mafia and frankly it isn't his style. If he's wolfing here he has a lot of options that make more sense. He could just drop a flat townread on you and skate by on being consensus townread by the thread. He could just ignore you. He could use the usual weaselly wording and say something like "I have seen nothing from Mac that makes me want to townread him, but I don't have any specific gripes with him. I'd like to give him space to do more solving and let him do his thing for now." or whatever. Those thing seem way more productive for a wolf JJJ to do than flipping you the bird for no reason.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:15 am i didn't realize nested quotes were a thing that bothered people, but that gripe makes me feel very old. nested quotes are what i've always known, what i grew up with. kids these days...

where's our waiter? we ordered our food 10 hours ago!

Lol, I am most definitely an old man, I'm just unable to run my normal game which involves scraping the thread into a worksheet that automatically formats everything so I can observe any interaction I want and reference any previous quote while watching trends. I like data. With my memory it feels necessary to have a good game. That said, your ISO function is good so meh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:18 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

implied town reads on nut and owner

I don't think nut has been out of her scum range but she hasn't been so obviously wolf that it's offensive to townread her.

I didn't realize JJJ was townreading Owner, where'd he do that?

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:00 pm nutella seems town

From what?
Them calling out a post as wolfy and discrediting me?
Yep, Soooooooo Town.

Like be honest Mac.
You would have had at least something to say back to this if you were JJJ and were aligned with Town right?
@MacDougall

Shows you that JJJ prob pocketing Nut.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:13 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:22 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:15 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:14 am There was another glorfindel?

Context?

Mafia player who was so pure in the soul that he would not lie.

Why play mafia at that point?

Indeed... he retired.

Jay is town.

I think Sloonei constantly going around people asking them for their opinions about me is indicative of genuine uncertainty and wanting a basis to get a more solid read on me.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:09 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:02 am Then do that and don't whine when you're in my POE

This post is a great look for JJJ. I think he wouldn't be as blunt and hostile to Mac if he was scum and Mac was town. I could see it as within their wolf-distancing range if I squint, but it still looks unnecessary. Occam's Razor says he's just town and annoyed at Mac's flippancy.

rly

Yes really.

JJJ has no need to provoke you for no reason if he's mafia and frankly it isn't his style. If he's wolfing here he has a lot of options that make more sense. He could just drop a flat townread on you and skate by on being consensus townread by the thread. He could just ignore you. He could use the usual weaselly wording and say something like "I have seen nothing from Mac that makes me want to townread him, but I don't have any specific gripes with him. I'd like to give him space to do more solving and let him do his thing for now." or whatever. Those thing seem way more productive for a wolf JJJ to do than flipping you the bird for no reason.

Nah.
Even JJJ knows it’s more fun to scum read Mac as Scum.


Right? @JaggedJimmyJay

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:22 amJay is town.

Are you saying that because you enjoy his amazing work he puts in every game or are you saying that because you seen something of his that indicates him as villager?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:22 amJay is town.

Are you saying that because you enjoy his amazing work he puts in every game or are you saying that because you seen something of his that indicates him as villager?

The latter.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:22 amJay is town.

Are you saying that because you enjoy his amazing work he puts in every game or are you saying that because you seen something of his that indicates him as villager?

The latter.

Well continue then.
What was that something that you speak of?

His posts are moving in the direction they are supposed to be moving. He's hitting people with prods that allow them to open up to the game, and I feel like he is assessing those people diligently and appropriately in turn.

His posts are moving in the direction they are supposed to be moving. He's hitting people with prods that allow them to open up to the game, and I feel like he is assessing those people diligently and appropriately in turn.

I thought most Syndicate players had Nutella as townie, no? Why is Jay reading them as town wrong? Did I miss something here?

Also, when did Jay call Owner town, she only just started playing?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:22 amJay is town.

Are you saying that because you enjoy his amazing work he puts in every game or are you saying that because you seen something of his that indicates him as villager?

The latter.

Well continue then.
What was that something that you speak of?

See my double post.

No one's commented on my vote.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:22 am Nah.
Even JJJ knows it’s more fun to scum read Mac as Scum.


Right? @JaggedJimmyJay

Mac is a player that, as town, can sometimes become really obvtown and dominate the thread. Therefore any wolf who tries pushing on him or shading him early runs the risk of being caught with their pants down if he does that this game. He is very rarely LHF and so wolves fishing for an easy misexe D1 do not usually go to him unless he is having an off game, and I don't think he's really one right now.

There are some players who simply have the personality of wanting to take down the big shark in the pool and relish the challenge and excitement of trying to get Mac exed. Tim, for example, is one such player. I presume you are as well. Does JJJ have that personality? Probably not. If he pushes a hard to push player it's for WIFOM reasons, not because he's drooling over the idea of making a ballsy play.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:28 am No one's commented on my vote.

Oh hey, you voted. When did that happen?

Was it the Kito read? If not, why?

I think Sonny is town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:25 am His posts are moving in the direction they are supposed to be moving. He's hitting people with prods that allow them to open up to the game, and I feel like he is assessing those people diligently and appropriately in turn.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:26 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:22 amJay is town.

Are you saying that because you enjoy his amazing work he puts in every game or are you saying that because you seen something of his that indicates him as villager?

The latter.

Well continue then.
What was that something that you speak of?

See my double post.

Well I still don’t agree this is a good reason to TR such a great player like JJJ, I do think this is a good look for Sloon.

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:29 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:28 am No one's commented on my vote.

Oh hey, you voted. When did that happen?

Was it the Kito read? If not, why?

Couple hours ago.

I don't want to talk about why it's there just yet. I simply want it to be acknowledged that my vote is where it is.

I'm tired of the myth that you should stop townreading good players for being townie. Just because a post is within someone's scum range doesn't mean that it isn't townie. It's an argument to not blindly lock them town for it, not an argument that it doesn't contribute to a summation of pro-town attitude within their posting.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:29 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:28 am No one's commented on my vote.

Oh hey, you voted. When did that happen?

Was it the Kito read? If not, why?

Couple hours ago.

I don't want to talk about why it's there just yet. I simply want it to be acknowledged that my vote is where it is.

I don't have anything to say about your vote.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

I think too many people are thinking.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

Awkward, I literally just shaded you in the lightest of greens on my list.

Oh screw that emoticon, whyyyyyy?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

I think too many people are thinking.

If it helps, I didn't think about my read on Jay at all.

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:33 am Oh screw that emoticon, whyyyyyy?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

Same

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:29 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:28 am No one's commented on my vote.

Oh hey, you voted. When did that happen?

Was it the Kito read? If not, why?

Couple hours ago.

I don't want to talk about why it's there just yet. I simply want it to be acknowledged that my vote is where it is.

Ok. Sure [validation given].

Guys, I actually don't enjoy being town read, I mean, do you, but I could be scum yaknow.

Actually, I think I'm just not used to having town reads thrown out like glitter. There are a lot. A lot a lot.

Nutes what are your reads

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

I think too many people are thinking.

I think you're town.

We have now created an uncomfortable circle.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:35 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

I think too many people are thinking.

If it helps, I didn't think about my read on Jay at all.

So we agree your read on Jay doesn’t mean anything as it’s just straight out null.
Nice!

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:39 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

I think too many people are thinking.

I think you're town.

We have now created an uncomfortable circle.

TF
This some kind of pocket attempt?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:18 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

implied town reads on nut and owner

I have a town read on nutella. I don't have any read on Owner.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:18 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia

What reads of Jay's do you find offensive apart from his read on you?

implied town reads on nut and owner

I have a town read on nutella. I don't have any read on Owner.

Yeah you made that town read of yours with glitter and sparkles right?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:38 am Nutes what are your reads

Uh yeah I got me some of those

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:41 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:38 am Nutes what are your reads

Uh yeah I got me some of those

Clearly Scum Theatre right here.

Nah probably not lol.
Imagine if it is though lol.

I no longer have a meaningful read on nutella