The Syndicate

Persephone wrote:I knew this was going to happen whoever killed me - you suck
thanks for the fun game SVS and Juliets

Goodbye daughter. You will be avenged.

Eros wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

Eros wrote:

Phoenix wrote:I vote Fortuna.

Phoenix wrote:correct me if I'm wrong here, but it appears to me that the "case" on Artemis is the supposed "slip" with the "lots of civs voted..." thing and then there seems to be a few circumstantial things that seem reaching a bit. Is there any actual solid evidence?

The things that Apollo said about Fortuna seems more solid than the Artemis stuff in my opinion.

Keep this in mind folks. This is the only post Phoenix has made regarding Fortuna. Tagging along with another. Did Persphone grill the bird?

The only time Perseophone mentioned Phoenix is here:

Persephone wrote:If I was randomizing I would remove Medusa and Phoenix tbh.

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Mark it. Mark it with a B. Then put the Bad Guys in the oven and listen to them scream.

What are you trying to get at with this post?

EROS....What exactly were you trying to say with this post?

I was calling Persephone out on what seemed like an inconsistency.

It sounded like you were also calling me out because I was "tagging along with another".

juliets wrote:Attention Gods and Goddesses: Aphrodite is reborn but is unable to join our little party here until much later today. She will not be eligible for vote today nor will she be able to be NK'd tonight. If you have voted for her you might want to change your vote so that it counts. Let us know if you have any questions.

Shenanigans! I want to kill Aphrodite!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! You fools could have taken anyone, but you took my WIFE INSTEAD?!?!?! WHAT THE.....

Oh wait, if she's dead now....and I'm god of the underworld.....never mind then! I get her year-round! Don't worry, Ceres. We'll still visit for holidays....assuming you aren't up to no good.

I look forward to hearing from an un-insanified Artemis as well as some of her voters. I do have plans today but I'm going to try and get my head wrapped around this game more at some point today.

Pluto wrote: I look forward to hearing from an un-insanified Artemis as well as some of her voters.

Don't hold your breath. On second though, that may be the only way to hear from her.

Pluto wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! You fools could have taken anyone, but you took my WIFE INSTEAD?!?!?! WHAT THE.....

Oh wait, if she's dead now....and I'm god of the underworld.....never mind then! I get her year-round! Don't worry, Ceres. We'll still visit for holidays....assuming you aren't up to no good.

I look forward to hearing from an un-insanified Artemis as well as some of her voters. I do have plans today but I'm going to try and get my head wrapped around this game more at some point today.

I done died.

Persephone, you're a car right? Can I have a ride?

RIP Persephone! I thought you civv as well.

Glad to see a new Aphrodite after she said I should lighten up. The nerve. You can have all the man-candy you want don't worry. I am as sexist as anyone and just looking for lady Vestals. It's all these gods I am worried about. Oh, and Elvis.

MY BABY! Curse you Hades! Persephone! I'll find the culprits and make them pay!

So what's the deal with Aphrodite? I know who I'm looking at today. Unless something interesting shows up, I'll be voting for Athena.

Ceres wrote:MY BABY! Curse you Hades! Persephone! I'll find the culprits and make them pay!

So what's the deal with Aphrodite? I know who I'm looking at today. Unless something interesting shows up, I'll be voting for Athena.

I share your suspicions of Athena, but could you give me a rundown of your reasons?

:still annoyed that I can't kill Aphrodite today because of the mean hosts:

Ceres wrote:MY BABY! Curse you Hades! Persephone! I'll find the culprits and make them pay!

So what's the deal with Aphrodite? I know who I'm looking at today. Unless something interesting shows up, I'll be voting for Athena.

Care to share why?

Apollo wrote:

Ceres wrote:MY BABY! Curse you Hades! Persephone! I'll find the culprits and make them pay!

So what's the deal with Aphrodite? I know who I'm looking at today. Unless something interesting shows up, I'll be voting for Athena.

I share your suspicions of Athena, but could you give me a rundown of your reasons?

:still annoyed that I can't kill Aphrodite today because of the mean hosts:

Same question.

I am good. I would like to be able to defend myself.

Other than the fact that I wrongfully suspected someone, can someone please explain their suspicion of me?

So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Consider it all you wish- just don't do it.

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

Medusa wrote:

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

He would have to be Persephone then, because Atlas didn't kill himself.

Apollo wrote:

Medusa wrote:

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

He would have to be Persephone then, because Atlas didn't kill himself.

I doubt that- Persephone would have self-protected, no?

Eros wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Medusa wrote:

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

He would have to be Persephone then, because Atlas didn't kill himself.

I doubt that- Persephone would have self-protected, no?

I agree. Hence my suspicion of Poseidon.

Medusa wrote:

Eros wrote:I haven't been this uncomfortable since the time I accidentally shot my cat. Boy, was THAT an awkward two weeks.

Ok. I want to hear the rest of this. Why are you uncomfortable?

Because so far I'm not doing a very good job.

haven`t read a single page yet hope to be caught up by lynch end. will post thoughts when I have them

Aphrodite wrote:haven`t read a single page yet hope to be caught up by lynch end. will post thoughts when I have them

You got lucky this time, Aphrodite, but I have my eye on you.

Ceres wrote:MY BABY! Curse you Hades! Persephone! I'll find the culprits and make them pay!

So what's the deal with Aphrodite? I know who I'm looking at today. Unless something interesting shows up, I'll be voting for Athena.

That wouldn't be a good move.

Apollo wrote:

Medusa wrote:

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

He would have to be Persephone then, because Atlas didn't kill himself.

Oh yes, of course. I forgot that no one died on night two.

So the suspicion of Aphrodite is her missing a bunch of day votes, but always voting in the night polls without posting.

With Athena, is it still mostly because of her vs. Artemis or is there new info I've missed since then.

I can see how Poseidon could be Hinzelmann, but I'm not convinced yet. I would much prefer to hear more from Poseidon before I look more in that direction.

Eros seems very unsure of himself now, from what I can gleam.

Is that right so far or am I missing something?

Pluto wrote: Eros seems very unsure of himself now, from what I can gleam.

Thanks, Dr. Phil.

I am quite sure of those I love. I am less sure of those I hate. I was never good at doing the latter, you understand? I occasionally get couples to hit each other, but it's usually with whips. Of course, there was that one couple who was into fish.

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote: Eros seems very unsure of himself now, from what I can gleam.

Thanks, Dr. Phil.

I am quite sure of those I love. I am less sure of those I hate. I was never good at doing the latter, you understand? I occasionally get couples to hit each other, but it's usually with whips. Of course, there was that one couple who was into fish.

That's it? I upgraded to tentacle rape awhile back and it's never been better! They might want to get on the ball with that.

See? I can be funny about it too. :P

Eros wrote:

Medusa wrote:

Eros wrote:I haven't been this uncomfortable since the time I accidentally shot my cat. Boy, was THAT an awkward two weeks.

Ok. I want to hear the rest of this. Why are you uncomfortable?

Because so far I'm not doing a very good job.

At least you are right about me!

Pluto wrote:So the suspicion of Aphrodite is her missing a bunch of day votes, but always voting in the night polls without posting.

With Athena, is it still mostly because of her vs. Artemis or is there new info I've missed since then.

I can see how Poseidon could be Hinzelmann, but I'm not convinced yet. I would much prefer to hear more from Poseidon before I look more in that direction.

Eros seems very unsure of himself now, from what I can gleam.

Is that right so far or am I missing something?

The Athena suspicion began because she accused Artemis of a slip on the Wisconsin voters as lots of civs. Since Athena herself was a Wisconsin voter it seemed like she was trying to distract away from Wisconsin voters in general. I think at this point it is pretty clear Athena cannot be Hinzelmann. I have no idea about her status as civv, Indy, or other baddie.

I am a bit confused how Poseidon could be the only Hinzelmann candidate Apollo sees. Since Hinz. can self-protect couldn't he also be doing that instead of killing? Wouldn't that leave everyone who voted Day 1 a candidate?

Vesta wrote: I am a bit confused how Poseidon could be the only Hinzelmann candidate Apollo sees. Since Hinz. can self-protect couldn't he also be doing that instead of killing? Wouldn't that leave everyone who voted Day 1 a candidate?

The shrouded one speaks with wisdom.

I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Vesta wrote: I am a bit confused how Poseidon could be the only Hinzelmann candidate Apollo sees. Since Hinz. can self-protect couldn't he also be doing that instead of killing? Wouldn't that leave everyone who voted Day 1 a candidate?

He can't self protect twice in a row though, and there have been two nights in a row without a Hinzelmann kill. That means that he either missed a vote, missed a PM, or was blocked. There are certainly other people he could be, but I think Poseidon is the most likely due to his inactivity. I believe that to be the simplest explanation for all the data.

Apollo wrote:

Vesta wrote: I am a bit confused how Poseidon could be the only Hinzelmann candidate Apollo sees. Since Hinz. can self-protect couldn't he also be doing that instead of killing? Wouldn't that leave everyone who voted Day 1 a candidate?

He can't self protect twice in a row though, and there have been two nights in a row without a Hinzelmann kill. That means that he either missed a vote, missed a PM, or was blocked. There are certainly other people he could be, but I think Poseidon is the most likely due to his inactivity. I believe that to be the simplest explanation for all the data.

I'm sure you can already guess what I have to say regarding this.

Well come up with a theory of your own for once then.

Apollo wrote:Well come up with a theory of your own for once then.

I've come up with several, which largely are not theories. These are about people being good, not bad.

The victory lies in finding the virtuous just as much as the foul.

Eros wrote:I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Who are you currently looking at casting a vote for today? And why?

Don't think I haven't noticed that the people you vote for have a habit of dying the next night. You'll forgive me if I don't entirely trust you.

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Who are you currently looking at casting a vote for today? And why?

Therein lies my problem, Diablo. I don't know.

Apollo wrote:Don't think I haven't noticed that the people you vote for have a habit of dying the next night. You'll forgive me if I don't entirely trust you.

I don't entirely trust you, and I'm not asking for any forgiveness, Sunny.

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Who are you currently looking at casting a vote for today? And why?

Therein lies my problem, Diablo. I don't know.

Are you suspicious of anyone or looking at anyone at least? Or are you fairly lost at this point?

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Who are you currently looking at casting a vote for today? And why?

Therein lies my problem, Diablo. I don't know.

Are you suspicious of anyone or looking at anyone at least? Or are you fairly lost at this point?

Beg your pardon, but are your own leads so dead that you must worry about mine when I have said I don't know?

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Who are you currently looking at casting a vote for today? And why?

Therein lies my problem, Diablo. I don't know.

Are you suspicious of anyone or looking at anyone at least? Or are you fairly lost at this point?

Beg your pardon, but are your own leads so dead that you must worry about mine when I have said I don't know?

Eros, the rest of us are spending time reading the thread, analyzing the votes and trying to find baddies. Can you understand how it's frustrating to do that and have you simply say "no" without explanation? It feels like a waste of time. Then you refuse to give any leads of your own. Ca you at least list the people you think are good so we don't have to keep going through this ridiculous exercise?

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:

Eros wrote:I am here willing to talk if anyone else would like to do that.

Who are you currently looking at casting a vote for today? And why?

Therein lies my problem, Diablo. I don't know.

Are you suspicious of anyone or looking at anyone at least? Or are you fairly lost at this point?

Beg your pardon, but are your own leads so dead that you must worry about mine when I have said I don't know?

I've already mentioned that I'm fairly lost as it is. I'm trying to get an idea of where to vote tomorrow, because if I had to vote now, I would have no clue where to go. Is it really that difficult to throw out a few names of people you are either looking at and/or think are good? Or do you prefer being a smartass about it and giving me a mouthy response? All I'm doing is asking a question and hoping to get some kind of answer out of it.

Funny thing is, if you answer my question(s), it usually means I stop asking them and go and look at thread evidence myself.

Apollo wrote: Eros, the rest of us are spending time reading the thread, analyzing the votes and trying to find baddies. Can you understand how it's frustrating to do that and have you simply say "no" without explanation? It feels like a waste of time. Then you refuse to give any leads of your own. Ca you at least list the people you think are good so we don't have to keep going through this ridiculous exercise?

It's only been two people. You need me to list them?

Eros wrote:

Apollo wrote: Eros, the rest of us are spending time reading the thread, analyzing the votes and trying to find baddies. Can you understand how it's frustrating to do that and have you simply say "no" without explanation? It feels like a waste of time. Then you refuse to give any leads of your own. Ca you at least list the people you think are good so we don't have to keep going through this ridiculous exercise?

It's only been two people. You need me to list them?

And I want to add that I resent you first sentence. "The rest of us?" Who exactly is that?

Pluto wrote: I've already mentioned that I'm fairly lost as it is. I'm trying to get an idea of where to vote tomorrow, because if I had to vote now, I would have no clue where to go. Is it really that difficult to throw out a few names of people you are either looking at and/or think are good? Or do you prefer being a smartass about it and giving me a mouthy response? All I'm doing is asking a question and hoping to get some kind of answer out of it.

Funny thing is, if you answer my question(s), it usually means I stop asking them and go and look at thread evidence myself.

Funny thing is, all you need to do is read for yourself. There's evidence now that you are capable of that. Of you go now, to that Dark Plutonian Shore of having to actually read shit and come up with your own evaluations.

I'm little. Don't piggyback on me. Even if I have wings. It hurts.

Eros wrote:

Apollo wrote: Eros, the rest of us are spending time reading the thread, analyzing the votes and trying to find baddies. Can you understand how it's frustrating to do that and have you simply say "no" without explanation? It feels like a waste of time. Then you refuse to give any leads of your own. Ca you at least list the people you think are good so we don't have to keep going through this ridiculous exercise?

It's only been two people. You need me to list them?

So Fortuna and Poseidon are the only two people you have opinions on? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.

Apollo wrote:

Eros wrote:

Apollo wrote: Eros, the rest of us are spending time reading the thread, analyzing the votes and trying to find baddies. Can you understand how it's frustrating to do that and have you simply say "no" without explanation? It feels like a waste of time. Then you refuse to give any leads of your own. Ca you at least list the people you think are good so we don't have to keep going through this ridiculous exercise?

It's only been two people. You need me to list them?

So Fortuna and Poseidon are the only two people you have opinions on? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.

I'm starting to get an opinion on one more.

I really don't have any opinions of my own, sorry.